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Immune System?

A question to all of you, Does anyone of you with 'Patm' ever get sick?  I 'never' get sick very rare to say at least! I'ts Almost like something in my body attacking others peoples immune system and making them sick that's what iv'e noticed. Any one ??
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Being less social could be the cause of this patm "immunity."
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To people going through PATM,try to take a lot of probiotics,drink lot of clean warm water and eat healthy a lot .. I hope this answer help u guys because it seems the effects of my patm started to lose its effects after 3 weeks(people still sneeze when I talked but there is no anymore a cough sounds).I believe the patm was actually a bad gas that was released from our stomach and we need to care for it.Hope this help u.
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     The foundenmental reason of PATM mights to be autoimmune diseases,might ruled by gene HLA gene complex. The HLA gene complex is located on the short arm of the sixth pair of chromosomes, its length is about 4000kb long.Many autoimmune diseases are caused by HLA Genetic variation like AS(ankylosing spondylitis)  Systemic lupus erythematosus(SLE)   Arthritis  IBD  IBS  Crohn's disease  Psoriasis  Scleroderma. Many papers and  Statisti
cal results have proved that the autoimmune diseases are Decided by multiple genes and present certain characteristics of family clustering.The genetic characteristics of desease show high complexity and it is induced by the environment.The principle of autoimmune desease is simple,genetic variation cause inflammatory cell like   T lymphocytel cannot distinguish bacteria from ordinary cells which release a large number of inflammatory factors acts on different organs to cause various forms of disease.when they attack intestine,it cause ibd,then might cause bad body odor and bad Oral smell.when they accumulate in an organ like brain,it might cause brain inflammation.PATM perhaps it's a special phenotype of autoimmune symptoms.
      PATMer might secret a special class of substance like 300 VOCs experimented by Japanese, might also be more complex ,they release allergic mediators mainly caused by extreme lymphoid tissue fluid caused by immune overreaction,The microscopic process of the release process may be complex.
      Some PATMer also state a phenomenon that others cough and vomit are synchronize and instantaneous with their thinking process.The reason might be simple for their Inflammation mainly occurs in the brain,when they think
,the brain becomes active and releases a lot of hormones,which cause the release of allergens.So the statement of electromagnetic wave is more likely to be a mistake of subjective experience.This PATMers may have relatives with brain disease for genetic family clustering.
      A way to alleviate symptoms of PATM might be resist inflammation,We might can restrain inflammation by eating more foods that contain anti-inflammatory agents like Tomato,broccoli,Grape seed extraction,Astaxanthin£¬q10.Many experiments have proved that oxidative stress is an important cause of body inflammation,so we can reduce intake omega6 food and increse intake omega3 food.Many papers also prove that probiotics play an important role in improving intestinal tract and secreting inhibitory anti-inflammatory factors.
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Fascinating insight from China, as expected.
Thank you very much for sharing
Прежде чем писать об иммунитете выкладывайте свою иммунограмму. Автору респект. Я тоже не болею вирусными и даже бессимптомно перенёс Соvid. В  моей иммунограмме повышены  лимфоциты, киллеры. Гиперактивное клеточное звено. Аутоимунный процессов у меня нет. Именно гипоксемия делает сильной иммунную систему.
PATM is 99.99% related to the HLA-B27 antigen. I have it diagnosed since I was around 10-15yo. I got PATM since 20. I don't get common flu, but a seasonal allergic flu or nasal infection during summer and rheumatism or other inflammations during winter. It always comes in cycles and the only way to get rid of it is taking antiinflamatory pills.
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I get sick often , cold or flu
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ok What kind of reactions do you get from people ?
Stuffed nose , scratching nose face eyes , runny nose. Sometimes even I can hear the neighbors down and up and one side of my room do it at the same time ( cough and sneeze and complain about something in the air ) , when I meet people and start to talk they always have a reaction likescractching  touching eyes eyebrows nose , when I’m nervous or stressed I have the most reaction, so bascically when I get one reaction in the day the whole **** start , make me nervous and I get worse and worse , like a chain reaction
Ok i recognize alot of what you say, i havn't asked anybody what they are feeling when they are close to me would be interesting to hear the answer but i'ts very awkard to ask someone that right?, I get anxious because i think im emitting a odor but i don't think thats the case at all or not all the time atleast, I get stressed when i see the reactions or hear them and that does intesify it, Lol hate this sh*t. As for diets nothing works, And Supplements have tried alot of them, The most success i ''think'' i had was with Magnesium and Zinc but i'ts hard to say.
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I already said it before and I recommend that you read the forum at its widest. I have not had a cold since I had PATM, nothing of any disease, only sometimes I cover one side of my nose, I do not have any infection in the skin. Nothing.
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Wow with the cover one side of  the nose same for me Interesting , Thank you. Let me ask you what kind of reactions do you get ? Mostly i get the *sniffles* scratching face eyes.
Do you think we can create this with our mind somehow ? i know it sounds ridiculous.
For my case it’s like if I feel threatened or anxious Or nervous my patm gets really worse , it’s like a defence mechanism , like in the nature’s animals when they feel threaten they have reaction to defend themselves
I say it is psychosomatic, that is; the illness is linked to some crucial sentimental mental event that we live and that this time is exteriorized, we enter a loop. The first thing would be to look for the cause of the trauma and then to lower the stress in one way or another, anxiety, it must be constant and in time it will give results. I remember that I even wanted to kill myself 1 year ago, my PATM was too much, I went to the supermarket and everyone started to cough, now nothing, sometimes only 1 in the whole week, some just clean their noses or scratch, my neighbors cough on one side and another, but now only 1 sneezes like 2 times a day and the others rarely clear their throat. So I would say that in something under my PATM effect. I just started eating normal and a little more healthy, that is, try to eat like 5, or at least 3 servings a day, not in abundance since you would gain weight, my usual is to eat rice (cooked with carrots, peas, etc. ..) and some boiled meat plus some salad of cucumbers and lettuce or similar things, nothing to exaggerate with French fries, even though sometimes I do the same ... It's a matter of being mentally relaxed, it's about put this in your head; You do not need to be accepted, you do not need to be liked by anyone, you do not need a qualification from others, ... You are only you, strengthen your inner self, do not give power over yourself to others because your subconscious comes out to defend yourself and the only way to do it is by emanating some element through your body, the same logic is applied in the nervous ones when engaging a talk with a girl where she focuses and gives decision power over the girl and her subconscious manifests in defense through tics or sweating as well as other typical expressions of fear or nervousness, PATM is something similar, that's why every sneeze eats us afflicts us, it's a loop, it's like every disease that if you do not recognize yourself and you do not accept this will have a solution Also remember that stress anxiety increases the whole PATM, read more about stress and anxiety, its relationship with certain diseases such as the alteration of the intestinal flora or the inability to perform its function of a certain internal organ among others, also read about women where as stress or mental state can interfere with ovulation later in pregnancy and other issues, our mind is determinant in most internal diseases, they are psychosomatic ....... Also read about cancer and the relationship of some with the stressed mind in the long term ......... Look, it would explain everything, but I'm still experimenting, when it comes out or is 100% sure I'll be writing and trying to explain better, I always from the beginning I was with my hypothesis and apparently in all this time I was reaffirming and testing ..... Greetings.
Yo digo que es psicosomático, es decir; la enfermedad esta ligada con algún evento crucial mental sentimental que vivimos y que esta en el tiempo se exteriorizo, entramos en un bucle. LO primero seria buscar la causa del trauma y posteriormente bajar de alguna u otra forma el estrés ansiedad, tiene que ser constante y en  el tiempo dará resultados. Recuerdo que hasta quería matarme hace 1 año, mi PATM era demasiado, entraba al supermercado y empezaban a toser todo el mundo, ahora nada, a veces solo 1 en toda la semana, algunos solo se limpian la nariz o se rascan, mis vecinos tosían de un lado y otro, pero ahora solo 1 estornuda como 2 veces al día y los otros rara ves aclaran su garganta. Así es que diría que en algo bajo mi efecto PATM. Yo simplemente empece a comer normal y un poco mas saludable, eso si, tratar de comer como 5, o mínimo 3 raciones al día, no en abundancia ya que aumentarías de peso, mi habitual es comer arroz (cocido con zanahoria, arveja, etcs..) y un poco de carne hervida mas alguna ensalada de pepinos y lechuga o cosas similares, nada de exagerar con papas fritas, aun que de ves en cuando igual lo hago..... Es cuestión de estar mentalmente relajado, trata de meterte a la cabeza esto; No necesitas que te acepten, no necesitas caerle bien a nadie, no necesitas una calificación de los otros,.... Solo eres vos, fortalece tu YO interno, no le des el poder sobre ti a los otros por que tu subconsciente sale a defenderse y la única forma de hacerlo es emanando algún elemento mediante tu cuerpo, la misma lógica se aplica en los nerviosos a la hora de entablar charla con una chica donde enfoca y da poder de decisión sobre el a la chica y su subconsciente se manifiesta en defensa mediante los tics o la sudoración así como otras expresiones típicas del miedo o nerviosismo, PATM es algo similar, por eso cada estornudo nos carcome nos aflige, es un bucle, es como toda enfermedad que  si no se reconoce y no se acepta esta no tendrá solución. También recuerda que el estrés ansiedad aumenta todo el PATM, lee mas sobre el estrés y ansiedad,  su relación con ciertas enfermedades como la alteración de la flora intestinal o la incapacidad de hacer su función de un determinado órgano interno entre otros mas, también lee sobre las mujeres donde como puede interferir el estrés o estado mental en la ovulación posteriormente en la gestación y otros temas, nuestra mente es determinante en la mayoría de la enfermedades internas, son psicosomaticas....... También lee sobre el cáncer y la relación de algunos con la mente estresada a largo plazo......... Mira, explicaría todo, pero aun estoy experimentando, cuando salga o este seguro al 100% estaré escribiendo y tratando de explicar mejor, yo desde un principio siempre estuve con mi hipótesis  y al parecer en todo este tiempo la estuve reafirmando y probando..... Saludos.
One thing that is very interesting to me is why do i never get sick as yourself it baffles my mind. havn't been sick in 2 years if even more i mean is that normal ? Not even a runny nose lol.
I also noticed one side of my nose gets congested, and I never get sick. My job is to work with very sick people all day and I never get sick. I think we have some sort of immunity, our white blood cells work much harder than a normal person. The opposite of HIV possibly.
Being less social could be the cause of this patm "immunity."
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