Hey i dont know if what i posted is actually there because i dont see it but i will post what i sent to this other guy Hi i am Alex i emailed coreyvanith2 on somethings that i thought might work and I actually got results. So the first thing i want to point out that I recently got PATM and i know when it happened and what i did so what i do might not work for you. I bought body wash after not using it for 15 years and i used it everyday and very throughly too so i think something happened to my skin where i produced a lot of oil and i did the same to my hair, i very thoroughly washed it way more than i needed to so what i did was completely stop using body wash and shampoo for around a week then i used shampoo once in 6 days then 3days later then again 2 days later to now everyday and i completely stoped using body wash and so now people are covering their noses less and they are not touching their nose as much and i think i will be able to get rid of PATM. (VERY IMPORTANT) it’s important that you isolate what is making people allergic, i am still not sure how you can isolate it but one way would be to see if people still get allergic when you are standing a little shorter than them so your hair is nose level then walk past them, that might work it sounds ridiculous but so is PATM so of you know for a fact its only your hair then only do the routine for your hair not your body and vise versa also dont scratch your hair you might make it worse and use body wash for important places that you need to use body wash and you probably will smell bad for a few days but think of it this way.. would you rather get rid of PATM or smell good for a couple of days so email me(***@**** if i dont answer in one day use this email gamingkid256.***@****) before you actually try this because i want to help you even more because no one should have to suffer with this especially since i dont see a solution anywhere. Ok so thats it my snapchat is alex_gu256 so tell me if you have any question and you can also email me if you want
This is very debilitating. Have you taken antibiotics on a a lot?
I still have patm, but it decreased to 10% after certain diet. Firstly, you need to completely cut off those things:
1) gluten
2) sugar
3) caffeine (tea, coffee)
4) fruits and berries
5) starch (potatoes, beans, etc.)
6) dairy products (except butter).
I believe that patm reactions are caused by fungus spores. Candida breeds rapidly because of those products.
Eat only lean meat, eggs, buckwheat, rice, green vegetables and lots of water. Don't forget about exercising and going out.
Take probiotics like 3 times a day. My gastroenterologist said '50 billion' probiotic by Garden of life is the best probiotic.
For some of you, rinsing your mouth, nose and throat and cleansing your tongue could also help to decrease reactions.
If you have an overgrowth of Candida albicans, I recommend you to take anifungal pills. I took fluconasole for 2 weeks (800 mg for the firts 10 days and 400 mg for 4 days).
I hope this helps someone.
Hi Annette. Listen am going to respond with somethings I've been noticing as far as my self. Now I've known I've had this for longer than you, so somethings might help. I say notice because I've probably had had this much longer( my whole life maybe) but since we experience life in the first person I have only known I had this for about 9 years now. It was like the Matrix moment for me. Anyway enough of that. Let's get down to business.
First off, the things I've been noticing with my case may not translate to you, or hopefully so. Because am male and your female. Also nothing am going to tell you is a finished product or the final answer, because I am still experimenting on my self.
Ok. Second. I also believe I have this thing called TMAU, you probably have heard about it. About half the people on this thread claim to have some form of it. I used to think that PATM and TMAU were one and the same, but from things I've been noticing lately I am starting to change my mind on that. Although they may ultimately still have the same root cause(or not) I believe they have different triggers.
Third. You have to understand how much more difficult this confusing or taking PATM and TMAU as one and the same has been. Because when I would see reactions for PATM I used to get discouraged thinking nothing was working ( and maybe my TMAU was down, but I thout it wasn't, cuz I thought they were both the same) when maybe it was.
Forth. One of the things I find that these things have in common is inflammation, but I don't know exactly why( still a work in progress, like I said)
OK. TO THE GOOD STUFF.
I've been able to Isolate TMAU from My PATM, where sometimes I'll get reactions from one but not the other and vice-versa. Sometimes I can even get both conditions to be so low as to be practically gone ( this takes work though)
Ok for PATM, what works and what seems to trigger it. Ok this is going to sound weird please keep an open mind. And also am not sure if this would work for you, because you are female, or if there is a female equivalent to this. I know female bodies go through different things than men. Ok what I've noticed works best with PATM with me is to stop MASTURBATING. ON the third day the reactions are minimal and by the fourth and fifth day the reactions are pretty much gone. What also helps is to relax and stop worrying about it so much. Now I have also noticed that there are diminishing returns to this NO MASTURBATING thing. In other words if you hold out long enough and the PATM starts to come back ( after about 2 weeks) I don't know why. Maybe it's the body trying to compensate or whatever. So maybe it's a chemicals imbalance. And I don't know if this will work for girls because am not sure if your bodies work the same, or if girls even masturbate as much as men do. But maybe you can find an equivalent, in other words some process that drains you or vice-versa pumps your body with some chemical or chemicals that am not sure what they are yet. Also things that I've noticed trigger this, 1: eating to much salt, the regular salt( not so much with himalayan pink salt) and sometimes when I excercise to much(weight training in particular) I start to see more reactions. Not sure why the weight training thing does that, my theories are that maybe the inflammation or maybe when I am loosing weight my body burns fat with chemicals already in my body, who knows. Ok that's all I've noticed with PATM.
On TMAU I've noticed that eating foods with low choline helps a lot. This is hard to do, it was especially hard at first, because I didn't know what I was doing. I would only eat salads and vegetables and that would seem to help but now I know that there are fruits and vegetables that have high choline, so now I stay away from those. At first I would also stay away from sugars but now I realize that a few candies and sweets are actually low choline, so you can eat them and still maintain low reactions. But not sure how healthy that is.( Am talking about things like marshmallows, Skittles, gummies etc anyway look up foods low on choline). Eggwhites are also low in choline, so is white rice if you cook it plain. Now I know you'll eventually want some meat or something else that's why I only go like 2 or 3 weeks on the diet then I cheat for a few days. But little by little I have been pushing it for longer, eventually maybe I can go full time or as long as I want to anyway.
Anyway I hope this helps. If you have any questions just write. Maybe together we can find out more about this. Also I will probably post this stuff I've noticed with my body on the main thread. Also there seems to be cures and better treatments on the horizon, with gene therapies and enzymes therepies so hang in there.
Hi Annette. Listen am going to respond with somethings I've been noticing as far as my self. Now I've known I've had this for longer than you, so somethings might help. I say notice because I've probably had had this much longer( my whole life maybe) but since we experience life in the first person I have only known I had this for about 9 years now. It was like the Matrix moment for me. Anyway enough of that. Let's get down to business.
First off, the things I've been noticing with my case may not translate to you, or hopefully so. Because am male and your female. Also nothing am going to tell you is a finished product or the final answer, because I am still experimenting on my self.
Ok. Second. I also believe I have this thing called TMAU, you probably have heard about it. About half the people on this thread claim to have some form of it. I used to think that PATM and TMAU were one and the same, but from things I've been noticing lately I am starting to change my mind on that. Although they may ultimately still have the same root cause(or not) I believe they have different triggers.
Third. You have to understand how much more difficult this confusing or taking PATM and TMAU as one and the same has been. Because when I would see reactions for PATM I used to get discouraged thinking nothing was working ( and maybe my TMAU was down, but I thout it wasn't, cuz I thought they were both the same) when maybe it was.
Forth. One of the things I find that these things have in common is inflammation, but I don't know exactly why( still a work in progress, like I said)
OK. TO THE GOOD STUFF.
I've been able to Isolate TMAU from My PATM, where sometimes I'll get reactions from one but not the other and vice-versa. Sometimes I can even get both conditions to be so low as to be practically gone ( this takes work though)
Ok for PATM, what works and what seems to trigger it. Ok this is going to sound weird please keep an open mind. And also am not sure if this would work for you, because you are female, or if there is a female equivalent to this. I know female bodies go through different things than men. Ok what I've noticed works best with PATM with me is to stop MASTURBATING. ON the third day the reactions are minimal and by the fourth and fifth day the reactions are pretty much gone. What also helps is to relax and stop worrying about it so much. Now I have also noticed that there are diminishing returns to this NO MASTURBATING thing. In other words if you hold out long enough and the PATM starts to come back ( after about 2 weeks) I don't know why. Maybe it's the body trying to compensate or whatever. So maybe it's a chemicals imbalance. And I don't know if this will work for girls because am not sure if your bodies work the same, or if girls even masturbate as much as men do. But maybe you can find an equivalent, in other words some process that drains you or vice-versa pumps your body with some chemical or chemicals that am not sure what they are yet. Also things that I've noticed trigger this, 1: eating to much salt, the regular salt( not so much with himalayan pink salt) and sometimes when I excercise to much(weight training in particular) I start to see more reactions. Not sure why the weight training thing does that, my theories are that maybe the inflammation or maybe when I am loosing weight my body burns fat with chemicals already in my body, who knows. Ok that's all I've noticed with PATM.
On TMAU I've noticed that eating foods with low choline helps a lot. This is hard to do, it was especially hard at first, because I didn't know what I was doing. I would only eat salads and vegetables and that would seem to help but now I know that there are fruits and vegetables that have high choline, so now I stay away from those. At first I would also stay away from sugars but now I realize that a few candies and sweets are actually low choline, so you can eat them and still maintain low reactions. But not sure how healthy that is.( Am talking about things like marshmallows, Skittles, gummies etc anyway look up foods low on choline). Eggwhites are also low in choline, so is white rice if you cook it plain. Now I know you'll eventually want some meat or something else that's why I only go like 2 or 3 weeks on the diet then I cheat for a few days. But little by little I have been pushing it for longer, eventually maybe I can go full time or as long as I want to anyway.
Anyway I hope this helps. If you have any questions just write. Maybe together we can find out more about this. Also I will probably post this stuff I've noticed with my body on the main thread. Also there seems to be cures and better treatments on the horizon, with gene therapies and enzymes therepies so hang in there.
I'm sorry to tell you that if you repeat that in your head the PATM will get worse, the only way to decrease is to lower the sense of guilt, it is difficult but what did you want, some pills? It is not like that, and if you want to eliminate it will be slow and that starts with you ......
Seven to tell you that if you repeat that in your head the PATM will get worse, the only way to decrease is to lower the sense of guilt, it is difficult but what did you want, some pills? It is not like that, and if you want to eliminate it will be slow and that starts with you ......
Don't any sugar at all. That includes fruits, like berries, that have natural sugars in them. Any sort of caffeine as well. Very little meat. I have a friend on this board who after some years got serious about the diet and a month or so ago no longer has symptoms or get reactions from people. I'm doing the same diet as him and it's working. If you want to know the diet, let me know.
Hi Annette,
I am sorry to ear that. This thing hit you to young !
For your exams it is obviously first difficult to concentrate when you have that much sensitivity. Then, I think brain fog is the main reason, you express yourself very well but on more theoretical subjects it can be a real handicap.
Brain fog leads to memory issues and depression.
Well I hope your diet helps. Cutting out gluten helped me ending with suffering. I don’t pay attention to reactions anymore but brain fog is still there.
Memory issues can be recognized from a medical state point. Some specialists can evaluate your cognitive performances.
This is a good state point to see what your future can be.
Good luck with it ;)