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PATM cure ?

Hello to all of you.  I'm Justin,  25, I live in Orlando.  I will say, PATM reactions in this city are no fun at all.  My first reaction was at a huge concert called "Sunset Music Festival " .... which is a HUGE RAVE with a lot of people. I didn't know what was going on and why my friends started sneezing, coughing,  clearing their throats, etc.  It was weird because everyone else in the crowds were as well, and when I got closer to them, the reactions were inbearable.  

A week went by, and I noticed it at work.  Same reactions.  I typed 8nto Google,  "why are people allergic to me" and here I am.  I'm currently doing alot of research. ..

I work at a hospital, and I'm really good friends with a microbiologist,  chemist, and hematologist.  They have checked all of my lab work and said I was anemic .  Additionally,  my white cell count and everything else was normal (since I'm 25 and active)!  They even laughed at my cholesterol being so low at 135 LOL !!  I even tested my stool for parasites, and nothing came back positive.  I took the advice and started treating for candida.  

I purchased the following products (encouraged by hopeful12345): brown rice powder by Jarrow Formulas, althea probiotic he mentioned by the same comapny, and Oxy powder, and Candida Cleanse from Purely Holistic  

Additionally,  I recently added L Glutamine,  quercetin,  digestive enzymes, milk thistle, molybdenum, fish oil pills, and vitamin c 1000.

I've been taking all of these for a short period of time.  Just letting you all know my progress.  The reactions are not improving .  That's okay because I know this is a never ending battle, and I will stay strong of course.  It just ***** that the reactions are alone l, and my friends think I'm crazy when I tell them, "I'm like rogue from X Men.  Stat away , I have the plague! "  I'm just trying to laugh and joke about it because staying positive is KEY :)

If you all took anything or recommend anything in your success, please feel free to contact me .  Inflammation seems to be a huge problem for me.  I dont know how to decrease it because I follow the Candida Diet.  Drink a gallon or more of water a day as well.  I've been doing Epson salt baths, running for an hour, and dry saunas everyday .  

Let me know what you all suggest !  Also, I use the heck out of coconut oil! !!!  Almost busted my buttime in the shower the other night AHAHA

Have a good day everyone, and please keep your head up high :)
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URGENT !!!!!!!!!

Everyone, I have figured it out!! I know exactly what is going on in our bodies.  Alot pf you app have been saying that you sweat alot, there is an ammonia smell coming from you, etc.  Speaking from my own experiences, I asked my closest friends if they smell anything on me after I go for a run.  They say like a bleach smell but it's more like an AMMONIA smell.  

Guys, our livers are messed up.  My hypothesis:  I started working out and increased my protein intake BY ALOT .  I would notice a couple of reactions from people and thought nothing of the matter.  At a music festival, the only thing I ate for those teo days were protein bars...snd then boom.  The PATM started.  My liver was failing due to the amount of protein I was taking.  Your liver is responsible for digesting proteins; however, if it's not functioning properly or effectively (poor nutrition, environmental exposures, colognes, etc) it will produce AMMONIA IN OUR BODIES and into our BLOODSTREAM.  Guys, this is exactly why most of you ate patm free because you did the cleanses and toook amino acids.  Amino acids are used to help the liver and kidneys fucntion properly!!  That's why when people took Dessicated Beef Liver pills, black seed oil, and oxy powder, they were PATM FREE!!  I currently am experiencing lessened symptoms.  I'm following a protein free diet as well as a dugar free diet.  I've been using laxatives, oxy powder,and running everyday.  My brain fog is almost gone!!  My PATM reactions are finally dying down.  Research this!!  I'm 100000000000% sure this is what is causing all of our issues.  Also , I could have a candida overgrowth as well.  I am currently taking candida cleanse from Purely Hollistic, am picking up more SB probiotics, and sticking to a more vegan diet.

Additionally, im going to copy and paste what this article said about while bacteria and the colon are playing a role in this right here:

DETOXIFYING AMMONIA

Ammonia toxicityIn part 2 of AMMONIA TOXICITY we are going to find out what we can do to remove ammonia from our body, both by supporting the organs involved in processing and disposing of it, and by taking supplements with an affinity for removing ammonia.

We have seen that there are 3 organ systems in the body that produce and/or deal with ammonia: the liver, the kidneys and the intestines. Let’s look at each one separately and see what we can do to facilitate their ammonia detoxification functions.

THE LIVER: FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE AGAINST AMMONIA

Removal of ammonia begins with the liver, therefore keeping the liver healthy and well functioning will clearly help to improve ammonia removal. Since a major medical indicator of liver failure is high levels of ammonia in the bloodstream, it follows that detoxifying the liver may well be the best way to remove ammonia from the body.

The liver normally receives some ammonia via the intestines, from the bacterial break-down of amino acids found in dietary protein. A healthy liver detoxifies that ammonia, by converting it into urea, which is then removed from the body by way of the urine. But, if the liver is malfunctioning, the ammonia remains unprocessed, and will enter the bloodstream.

To enhance the detoxification pathways, the liver uses sulfur compounds to produce the antioxidant glutathione. The amino acid L-cysteine is the most crucial sulfur compound needed by the liver to produce glutathione. The best way to get L-cysteine into the body, in supplemental form, is to use N-acetyl-cysteine. NAC is a powerful antioxidant and immune stimulant, and as well has been shown to support lung function, and to help remove heavy metals.

It should be noted that taking NAC is more efficient at raising glutathione levels than taking actual glutathione, in supplement form. Vitamin C is also a potent elevator of glutathione production, with 500mg being sufficient to create this response. Other supplements that can effectively raise glutathione levels include Milk Thistle Extract, Alpha Lipoic Acid, L-Glutamine and Whey protein. The highest food sources of sulfur compounds include members of the cruciferous vegetable family (broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, kale, etc), as well as eggs, soy, legumes, garlic and onions.

THE ROLE OF THE KIDNEYS IN REMOVING AMMONIA

Symptomsof hyperammonemiaAfter the liver has detoxified the ammonia, by turning it into urea, the kidneys are the next step in filtration before it is removed via the urine.

Surprisingly, part of keeping the kidneys functioning well is keeping the blood sugar levels stable. If we have consistent high blood sugar levels, it causes the kidneys to filter too much blood and, by overworking them, we reduce their filtering capacity. High blood sugar levels can lead to reduced potassium levels in the blood, and if too much potassium is excreted it leads to alkaline urine. Urine that is too alkaline will reduce the amount of ammonia that is removed by the kidneys.

Three amino acids, L-Arginine, L-Citrulline and L-Ornithine, are necessary components of the urea cycle, and are therefore believed to work as protective agents against ammonia toxicity. They do this by stimulating urea formation, which aids the kidneys in performing their detoxification function. All three of these amino acids may be purchased in supplemental form. But, of the three, L-Ornithine is particularly helpful for removing ammonia from the brain, because the brain does not contain the ornithine-related enzyme necessary to render ammonia harmless by changing it into urea.

Commonly suggested is 500mg of L-Ornithine in the evening and 500mg of L-Arginine in the morning to aid in neutralizing ammonia in the liver, the body and in urine. A larger quantity of these 2 amino acids may be taken, but remember to take them on an empty stomach.

Eating celery or drinking celery juice daily will help kidney function, and also electrolyte balance. Celery also works to removes excess uric acid from the blood, a further aid to kidney function.

INTESTINAL HEALTH AND AMMONIA DETOXIFICATION

As mentioned above, small amounts of ammonia are produced as a byproduct of the normal digestion of proteins, and the body is prepared to handle this quantity. However, parasites, bad bacteria, and candida yeast overgrowth in the intestinal tract, can produce more ammonia than the body is equipped to deal with, leading to a compromised immune system.

Taking probiotics (friendly bacteria) maintains healthy bacterial flora, which in turn, reduces yeast overgrowth, and lowers the pH level of the large intestine, making it far more acidic. This is a place where being acidic is good. When the large intestine has a high level of acidity, the ammonia produced by intestinal bacteria remains in an ionized form. In this form, it is easily dissipated from the body, without entering into general circulation through the blood, and burdening the kidneys, liver and brain.

This is the approach we take guys.  This is what's wrong with us.  This is why we sweat profusely. This is why we smell of ammonia or fish or whatever it is!  Let's heal TOGETHER!!  

I hope you all find this useful!  I will continue to post my results a little later in September!

Have a great day everyone :) REMAIN STRONG !  Stay hopeful and grateful!
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Here is another beneficial read :

FAST FOOD MEATS

Those who eat fast-food burgers and cheap hamburger can unwittingly be consuming ammonia along with their “food”, due to the filler known as “pink slime.” “Pink slime” (called “lean finely textured beef” by the meat industry) is a processed beef product that was originally used in pet food and later approved for human consumption. In March 2012, ABC News claimed that 70 % of ground beef sold in U.S. supermarkets contained this additive.

Pink Slime is used as a filler, or to reduce the overall fat content of ground beef, and is produced by processing meat by-products such as cartilage, connective tissue and sinew. The recovered beef material is then processed, heated, and treated with gaseous ammonia to kill E. coli, salmonella, and other harmful bacteria. After coming in contact with water in the meat, the gaseous ammonia forms into ammonium hydroxide. When this “meat” is consumed the ammonia can enter the bloodstream elevating levels.

PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS OF AMMONIA TOXICITY

Since there is no current medical belief in slight ammonia toxicity, we can get a handle on what the symptoms might look like by seeing extreme examples of the ingestion of massive doses of ammonium chloride by humans and experimental animals.

Early physical symptoms of elevated blood ammonia include fatigue, muscle weakness, loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, pain in the back, sides or abdomen, or other symptoms of liver and kidney damage. Excessive levels of ammonia hinder the production of the energy molecule ATP, which leads to fatigue and eventually, flaccid muscle tone. As well, ammonia raises levels of nitrogen-based, damaging free radicals in the body.

Toxicity symptoms can also include breathing difficulties (especially with a burning sensation in the lungs), glucose intolerance, and increased urinary output of magnesium, calcium and phosphate.

TREATING HIGH AMMONIA LEVELS

A protein-restricted diet is the first step in treating high ammonia levels. This is usually combined with administration of fiber supplements and laxatives to increase bowel movements and flush ammonia out of the gut. Antibiotics may be prescribed to reduce the number of bacteria in the intestine and decrease the amount of ammonia produced in the bowel. If ammonia levels remain dangerously elevated, liver transplantation may be a consideration.

I'm going to take garlic instead of antibiotics.  I'll let you guys know everything soon!!

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God Bless you @justincase25 !

Whatever course of "actions" you decide to choose to become patm free

they must be consistent - 365 days each year , 24-7 !!!

Being patm free is a lifestyle , not a diet !!!!






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Yes grateful2011.You're right.It's a lifestyle.I am so happy that I've made serious changes in my life.Also what is important-avoiding people with bad energy because I have such people around me.I know now that they don't
deserve me and my friendship.We all need good energy and vibrations.
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I can agree with the stress.  I have a stressful job...(RN for level 1 trauma) Moreover,  stress is everyday for me.  When a patient codes on me or comes in as a stroke alert, my reactions are WORSE!  It definitively coincides with the bad bacteria in our bodies.   I'm going to buy some garlic capsules soon..  going on vacation soon...Miami is 3 hours away so I'm blessed LOL!  As far as keeping a positive attitude, I haven't lost any friends.  My roomates on the other hand have been hiding in their room as soon as I come home.  I can't blame them; however, they told me that they don't feel sick around me.  "It's all in my head" but they throw up, sneeze, can't stop coughing and giving me the worst looks ever.  I workout everyday...but when I do, I get super aroused...so I have sex more.  Obviously safe sex, but it's a need for me instead of a want.

Getting more oxy powder because I bave noticed an improvement in my IBS related symptoms.  I have yet to try a liver cleanse...that would be my next guess.  I will get the liver cleanse from global healing center.  Have a good one mindspace!
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Hello to everyone again!

I have to say....living with this horrible disease is terrible.  From what I've witnessed during this horrible time in our lives,  I've come to a couple of theories...

1.  People are allergic.  Their stomachs hurt within 100 feet of us, they have IBS related symptoms like us, and their eyes hurt.  Additionally,  they cough and also get strep throat from us.  I've had multiple people tell me that they have developed  ulceractive colitis, and they do not know why.  Theu are extremely dizzy around me and are short of breath.  I have noticed when I'm on the phone with someone,  they start developing the same symptoms as if they were directly next to me!!  People look either directly at my stomach with a disgisted look....or, they look at my butt with a disgusted look.  My butt is nice because i squat..so its very odd...

2.  I have gotten strep 7 TIMES THIS YEAR ! 7 TIMES!!!!  Lol ....when prescribed antibiotics (arithromycin, augmentin) my reactions were WORSE. Futhermore, I started to feel better.  My stomach would stop its IBS symptoms and I'd be okay.  

3. Eating.  When I eat PROCESSED SUGAR in ANY FORM, I immediatley develop strep throat.  Additionally, my body gets inflammed and I feel lethargic for the rest of the day.  If I eat fruit, I'm okay.  If i eat chips, im okay.  If I eat a Reeses, I'm DONE LOL !

From all of this gathered, I've done it all.  I've dieted for months, lost a lot of weight,  but I haven't noticed any relief in symptoms.  I've tried everything....saccromyces, oxy powder, garlic, turmeric, restore, etc..you name, I took it. NO RELIEF.  

Has anyone been STD tested yet?  I've only been HIV tested...but there is this new super gonorrhea going around.   It is resistant to alot of antibiotics so I'm a bit worried.  Additonally, I'm young and very good looking.  I live in Orlando...so everyone is always hooking up...including myself.   I'm surprised i still can have sex with the reactions still taking place LOL !  Just wondering if i might be on to something here....

Have a great weekend everyone !  Stay hopeful and grateful ...do NOT give up
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Hi Justin.Forget about antibiotics dude really.Do you know that traditional medicine can't cure chronic diseases?You have to think in a different way.
The last antibiotic and medicine I had taken was 9 months ago.Since then I reduced about 80% of the reactions.Due to round of antibiotics I have mycotoxins in my gut.And that's not the whole problem.What I think is that these mycotoxins feed on moisture and electromagnetic radiation.That is the hardest part.Forget about brown rice protein powder and saccharomyces boulardii-does not work for me.Oxy powder is ok.We have to make effective liver flushes and colon cleanses first.For the colon cleanse you know oxy powder is ok.Liver flush is with extra virgin olive oil and lemon juice.Read more about liver flush.It's important.You may need digestive enzymes when you have heavy meals.Also coenzyme q10 is ok.And because I have parasites-I saw it in my stool- I'm still on a antiparasite program wormwood+clove+walnut tincture which also helps.So we need probiotics,not antibiotics.Probiotic should be with more bifidobacteria and lactobacillus acidophilus and plantarum.Don't take probiotic with lactobacillus paracasei and bulgaricus which are high in histamine and that increase allergic reactions.It's important that you should take no more than 6 billion per capsule daily.It's because that probiotics with more billions per capsule are stress for our body.Reducing stress is important for our situation because stress feeds pathogens in the body-it's related to adrenal glands,cortisol etc especially if you're blood type A-because blood type A is unique.You have to reduce as much as possible electromagnetic exposure especially-laptop,smartphones,wi-fi,wireless etc.Don't sleep with laptop and smartphone on the bed.And there  are electromagnetic field protectors.Read about it.You know to avoid sugar and all diary also white flour.Stuck with whole wheat bread,brown rice,fruits are ok for me.Eat more organic foods.Avoid GMO as possible-it increases allergic reactions.I have great benefits of all these things.Don't be anxious.Keep calm.It's the toxins which makes you anxious and aggressive.Now I'm feeling much more energy and I'm very positive.I love all people who are  
around me.Good luck.
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Hi,
I am also suffering with patm and its been two years. No medicine will work. You can do first thing is drink at least 4 glass of water as u wake up in the morning. And do pranayama , kapalbhatti for 30 mins and anulom vilom for 30 mins. This vill surely help you and with in a week u vill see the changes. And less reactions.
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Agree with you bro,being optimistic is the key,laugh about it joke about it ,Ignore it and keep your mind occupied iwth something else,it will slowly fade away slowly.Most of the cure is in your mind!

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/People-Allergic-to-Me-PATM/How-I-Fight-PATM-/show/2947494#post_14085612
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