(There really is no age limit, huh?) It's nice to see someone younger around here, I mean it's unfortunate but this all began for me when I was 12. I've dealt with the same stuff.
It's all too real. You should know you're not alone.
I am sorry to hear that, but you have to know that there is one cure for this, and it's being relax and control as much as you can your thoughts. it's hard in the first time but if you continue its will be vanished. I had this thing and I can ensure you that it's work, but if you prefer to believe the other stupidly cures that you probably read hear it's will never leave you. Pay attention how you breathe when when you around people, you will be amazed how bad you breathing. so my tip for you is to breath well, will you around people. read about "Olfactory reference syndrome"
I have promised myself many times that I would stop posting and researching so much on this hell. Lately, I have an approach that is working so I promised that I would at least wait until it is completely gone to make another post.
Any way, at least in my case, and many others. This intestinal and skin parasites. No mistake about it . I do not know what substance these parasites are releasing to illicit PATM, but I know, 100% that I have parasites and ever since I disturbed them with a humurworm cleanse. I have been a walking napalm bomb with all of the usual symtoms.
What is working for me : The Vitamin C / salt protocol to clean up all of the parasites . From my system. Each day, there is an exponential decrease from in reactions . Stay focussed on that. The why's and the who it affects is a whole other rabit hole that will waste your time , but here are some take aways from my almpost two years of hell:
1. The good news is that PATM is laregely a symtom of Parasites dying or made uncomfortable inside your system
2. It is very hard to reconcile the instantaneous reactions with this being due to a gas or toxin released by the parasites. However, as this goes away and I am not in panic mode, I have noticed that I am extremely electricaly charged . Maybe these parasites alter the bodies chemical electricity in some way that as we walk, we interact with atoms . This would account for the light speed reactions and reactions over great distances. Another possibility is that the parasites are sending some sort of distress signal to parasites inside other people, hence why it appears selective.
3. Take a good look at your clothing under very strong light . It wil be caked in microscopic debris from live and dead parasites. In stong sun light, I have seen these things shoot webs from my body . This alone has given me a constant feeling of feer. Very fine Webs, but visible to the naked eye in strong light. Whatever they are, they appear very keen to get away from me and will use clothing as a staging point for that.
4. Pay attention to any other long term symtoms like : bronchitis, asthma , fatigue , autism, depression, ect . It is all related. In my case, since the Vitamin C protocol, I can finally see these specks of ..hair/ worms flying out of my nose, and mouth on their excape vector . I am also escreeting large amounts of phlegm with them visible . They were present deep inside my sinus area and in my scalp . As if this is not scary enough. I have learned to take this as a good sign as they are high tailing it out of my body. This takes a long long time to perfect.
Every day, at work, even before PATM, I would get a huge head ache , inducing me to load up on sugars . Since the Vit C protocol, this head ache has gone .
5. I will never know if my PATM was noticed, but one way or another , I lost a very good job over it . I am now in another great job, but still with some symtopms, but largely reduced. I used to work in an open plan office with no solid parition between floors. It was the size of an air craft hangar . At one point, the whole place erupted in huge coughing fits at the exact same time. Now, there is about 3 people in the office who only do the clearing the throat thing and they are doing it less and less.
6. I have passed all sorts of sludge and particles from every orifice . With each passing, this improves.
7. I'm sad to say it , but you actually have a bigger problem than the PATM. Start the Vit C protocol along with very strong anti parasitics. A diet clean up is non negotiable.
8. Regards inducing PATM via phone calls. You know I have an open mind about this. Because , I have also experienced people coughing and wheezing whilst on the phone with me . In fact I find that the whole clear the throat thing is very very common. I am sure at some level we have been over sensitised to it . However, if it is possible for it to go over the phone lines, this is my exact field of work ! If it is possible to trasmit it over the phone, then whatever is doing it is doing it with sound waves, not electricity . We dont transmit the same electricial current from end to end, but we do send the same sound waves captured and re-compiled at the other end . Maybe there is is some sublte freequency these things are sending that interacts with the other person in some way; like a distress signal to other parasites in infested people !
9. I am carrying on with the Vit C protcol with gusto and will report here once it is all gone.
Hi amer9296, I understand your pain, and your anger towards patm. I to am dealing with this "disease". I can't tell you what this is and what the cure is. But I can tell you what works for me, just try to relax, and don't care what people think. If you are truly relaxed, I measure this by how much I am nervous sweating, most people will cease to react, I promise. I say most, because no matter where you go chances are someone is going to start coughing, there just are some people who are very sensitive to patm, I found that these people usually have some kind of respiratory problem (cold). Just stay positive and don't give up, try not to get frustrated, and know that people are not coaching deliberately, no one dislikes you because of patm, don't start hating the pople that react, otherwise you become the maker of your own self fulfilling prophecy.
12 Natural Ways to Deal with Black Mold Symptoms
If you already see or smell black mold, remove it immediately and thoroughly.
If you’re experiencing black mold poisoning, there are thankfully some natural ways to help with your black mold symptoms, including:
1. Raw Garlic
Raw garlic has amazing antifungal abilities, which is just what your body needs when it has been exposed to black mold. Garlic helps to kill off fungi, molds and yeasts. Two to four grams of fresh garlic per day, or 600 milligrams to 900 milligrams of garlic tablets daily, is recommended for toxic mold exposure. (7)
2. Activated Charcoal
Activated charcoal can be taken as a supplement for mold cleansing. Most people don’t think about mold living in their bodies, but it can, and activated charcoal is a potent natural treatment. It traps toxins in the body, allowing them to be flushed out so the body doesn’t reabsorb them. Activated charcoal is made from a variety of sources, but when used for natural healing, it’s important to select activated charcoal made from coconut shells or other natural sources.
3. Chlorophyll
It’s so much more than a green pigment found in plants. I’m talking about chlorophyll, which has shown an ability to protect DNA from damage caused by toxic molds like aflatoxin. (8) Chlorophyll also has antibacterial and antifungal properties, making it a highly recommended part of any healthy diet, but especially one that is looking to fight black mold symptoms.
Chlorophyll is in green vegetables, especially dark green leafy ones, so eat them regularly. Chlorella, spirulina and phytoplankton are three of the best sources of chlorophyll; they’re available in a variety of supplement forms.
4. Cut Down or Cut Out Sugar
If you’re suffering from mold toxicity, sugar is definitely not your friend. Fungi, which include molds and yeasts, require the presence of sugar for survival. Eliminate, or significantly cut down, your sugar intake to help to get rid of any black mold symptoms.
Natural treatments for black mold - Dr. Axe
When it comes to black mold in your home, these are some of the best natural ways to deal with black mold:
5. Identify the Moisture Source
The absolute key to dealing with black mold anywhere is to identify what’s creating the warm, damp environment in which the black mold can flourish. If you clean up black mold but don’t address the source of the moisture, then the black mold is highly likely to return. No natural or conventional treatment will prevent or remove mold permanently unless you remove mold’s necessary ingredient, which is moisture.
6. Fix the Source
You need to completely fix any water leaks, enable better ventilation where humidity is high and/or address any HVAC system problems. You can also purchase a dehumidifier for any areas that tend to be too humid. Exhaust fans are in kitchens and bathrooms for good reason. Make sure you use them to get moisture out of these prime mold areas.
7. Throw Away Mold-Ridden Items
Discard any items that are porous or if you are unable to completely remove the mold from them. It’s also a very smart idea to get rid of any carpets that have been flooded because they’re very prone to mold. Never paint or caulk over moldy surfaces.
8. Tea Tree Oil
Bleach will definitely work to effectively kill black mold. However, it’s ideal not to turn to bleach since bleach comes with so many concerning health side effects, including irritation to the eyes, mouth, lungs and skin. If you have asthma or another breathing problem, then the use of bleach is even more health-hazardous. Bleach can also burn human tissue, both internally and externally, especially in small children. (9)
Tea tree oil is one of several natural mold killers that you can employ instead of bleach. To put tea tree oil’s natural fungicide power to work, combine two teaspoons of tea tree oil with two cups water in a spray bottle and shake well. Spray the mixture anywhere that you see black mold. Then just let it sit and reapply as needed. Tea tree oil is said to be one of the best natural mold killers. (10) Pine oil can also be used in a similar fashion.
9. Baking Soda
Baking soda is another great natural anti-mold substance. Mix a teaspoon of baking soda with two cups of water in a spray bottle. Make sure to shake the mixture well. Next, spray the moldy areas and use a scrubbing brush to scrub the black mold away. Rinse the area and spray it again with the baking soda solution. This time just let it dry.
10. Vinegar
Put undiluted white distilled vinegar into a spray bottle and spray the vinegar directly on the moldy area(s). Let it set without any rinsing or scrubbing. This is a smelly natural mold remedy, but it’s said to be highly effective and the vinegar scent will fade.
11. Grapefruit Seed Extract
If you just can’t handle the smell of vinegar (even short term), then there is another option that is odorless. I’m talking about grapefruit seed extract, which is an excellent antifungal both internally and externally. To use it on a moldy area in your home, simply combine 20 drops of grapefruit seed extract with two cups of water in a spray bottle. Shake the mixture and spray it directly on the mold and do not rinse. (11)
12. Hydrogen Peroxide
Hydrogen peroxide is another odorless option that can be used to kill black mold. Pour a 3 percent concentration hydrogen peroxide into a spray bottle and spray the moldy areas until they are saturated. Let the hydrogen peroxide sit for at least 10 minutes before scrubbing the area well. Wipe the area with hydrogen peroxide when you’re done scrubbing.
Natural remedies may not be as strong as bleach, and typically need to be repeated, but they are a much healthier route!
Black mold exposure and black mold poisoning can cause a wide range of health problems. Some black mold symptoms can actually be really serious. You may have found this article from googling “black mold in shower” or “mold in house.” Unfortunately, mold problems are not unusual in the home, and the shower is a classic location to find black mold flourishing. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, molds in general are very common in homes and buildings and they can grow anywhere indoors where there is moisture. (1)
You can help your body recover if you’ve been exposed to black mold. You can also naturally rid your home of black mold and prevent it in the first place! Black mold symptoms are highly unpleasant so you really don’t want to deal with them if you don’t have to.
What Is Black Mold?
Black mold is easily distinguishable from other molds because, not surprisingly, it tends to be dark black. Black mold, also known as Stachybotrys chartarum or Stachybotrys atra, can be found indoors growing on a variety of surfaces, especially things with a high cellulose content like wood, fiberboard, gypsum board, paper, lint and dust. (2)
Other than being black, what does black mold look like? Black mold can actually be a greenish or grayish black. It has a distinctive odor that’s musty and mildew-like.
What is mold? A mold is a type of fungus that grows in filaments and reproduces by forming mold spores that cannot be seen by the naked human eye. Mold can grow and thrive in any season, indoors or outdoors, in damp, warm and humid environments, and it spreads like wild fire. Mold itself flourishes in warm, moist environments, but mold spores can actually survive in harsh, dry environments. The spores float around in indoor and outdoor air. When the spores land on a moist surface, the mold can then start to grow.
Black mold is most likely to rear its ugly head in areas of the home that are warm, humid and damp. In addition to showers, basements and crawlspaces that may have leaks, or some other sources of moisture, are commonly susceptible to the growth of toxic black mold.
I want to note that according to the CDC, the term “toxic mold” is not accurate. However, it does admit that molds (like black mold) can produce toxins (specifically mycotoxins) that are toxic or poisonous. So maybe we should call it toxin-producing black mold.
Black Mold Symptoms
There are several common black mold symptoms. Some of these symptoms of mold exposure include: (3)
•Headaches
•Chronic fatigue
•Fever
•Eye irritation
•Sneezing
•Rashes
•Irritation to the mucous membranes of the mouth, nose and throat
•Chronic coughing
Black mold symptoms are even worse if the black mold exposure is severe, has lasted for a long time or if the individual has a mold allergy. Symptoms could include nausea, vomiting, as well as bleeding in the nose and lungs. Studies have also linked household mold exposure to depression. (4)
The extent of black mold symptoms depends upon the number of spores inhaled and the duration of exposure. Black mold easily causes mold allergy symptoms, and symptoms likely persist until you get rid of the the black mold. Sometimes people don’t realize the health problems they’re having are actually black mold symptoms. Black mold is not something to ignore because it only gets worse the longer you ignore it.
If you’re looking for a way to confirm that you have black mold poisoning, some laboratories offer testing for the presence of mycotoxins in the body. Labs use an immunology test called an Enzyme Linked Immunosorbent Assay (ELISA) to test urine samples for aflatoxins, ochratoxin A and trichothecenes. (5)
What is black mold? - Dr. Axe
Black Mold Causes and Risk Factors
Moisture combined with warmth in any environment is the major predecessor to black mold. Bathrooms, especially showers, are not the only prime locations for mold. The basement, especially if there is any water leakage, is another common area for black mold to flourish.
Another place to watch out for black mold is your HVAC or air conditioning system, which is constantly recycling air. If there is moisture in the air, this can lead to moisture inside the system, which can then lead to mold growth. In addition to the mold actually growing within the inside of the system itself, now you have a system that’s spewing out mold spores into your living space. This is why it’s so important to have your system checked and cleaned regularly, or even replaced if the system already contains mold.
Conventional Treatment of Black Mold
Typically, you can see or smell large black mold infestations. Smaller infestations can be harder to find. Wondering how black mold is conventionally treated? (6)
According to the CDC, “In most cases mold can be removed from hard surfaces by a thorough cleaning with commercial products, soap and water, or a bleach solution of no more than 1 cup of bleach in 1 gallon of water. Absorbent or porous materials like ceiling tiles, drywall, and carpet may have to be thrown away if they become moldy. If you have an extensive amount of mold and you do not think you can manage the cleanup on your own, you may want to contact a professional who has experience in cleaning mold in buildings and homes. It is important to properly clean and dry the area as you can still have an allergic reaction to parts of the dead mold and mold contamination may recur if there is still a source of moisture.”
Are you wondering how to test for mold? One option is to hire a professional mold tester to collect and analyze mold samples. A cheaper option is to order a black mold test kit, which you can use to collect mold samples yourself. You then send the samples to a professional mold testing laboratory.
Hi Amer, so sorry to hear you are going through this. It's not an easy condition to deal with.
I want you to know that we all know what you are facing is real, and we've all been through the struggles you have been, so you are not alone.
I also want to tell you that I stopped having reactions a long time ago due to a few supplements that I found helpful. I wrote about them on a thread called "The PATM Cure is Here", but I've since altered to recommendations somewhat to identify supplements that I think are even more effective.
Below are what I believe are common problems are, and the corresponding treatments:
Lack of Good Bacteria -- I think many of us suffer from a lack of good bacteria. One of the most common causes is taking an antibiotic, as it kills both good and bad bacteria, but there are other causes. Because of this, we need to fill our bodies back with good bacteria. You can do this by eating lots of green vegetables, but a more effective way is to take a probiotic, a type of supplement. I've found the best one is Ortho Biotic, produced by Ortho Molecular Products. Its main ingredient is Saccharomyces boulardii, but it contains many other good bacteria strains. It is good in that you don't have to refrigerate it and it doesn't get destroyed by your stomach acid.
Candida -- We all have a yeast called candida in our bodies. Good bacteria keeps the candida from growing out of control, but if we don't have enough good bacteria we get an overgrowth. I think many of us have an overgrowth of this yeast in our intestine. It spreads through our bodies and hides out among our organs. When the yeast dies it create 79 different toxins. Because there are so many toxins our liver cannot get rid of them quickly, and so they spread through our body's largest organ, which is the skin. And these toxins are what cause people's reactions. Now the treatment: the most effective one I have come across is Candida Cleanse, a supplement produced by Purely Holistic (only available on Amazon). It has a number of herbs that are known for fighting candida, and it will help you detox. If you are not able to get it, the next best thing is Candida Support by NOW Foods, which you should be able to find in health food stores. If supplements are too expensive for you, I would recommend buying garlic or coconut oil and adding them to your daily diet, as they are two of the most powerful antifungals for candida. Regardless of whether you buy anything, the MOST IMPORTANT thing you can do to stop candida from multiplying is to cut sugar out from your diet. This means no cookies, cakes, candies, etc. There is sugar in almost all foods, so what I would do is look at the ingredients label and make sure there is no more than 5-6 grams of sugar in a food product. I would also avoid all breaded items as they also help candida grow (e.g., chicken strips and chicken mcnuggets at McDonald's).
Toxin Overload -- As I just mentioned candida causes a buildup of toxins in our systems. Toxins in the human body are most effectively killed by oxygen. There is a supplement that floods the body with oxygen called Oxy Powder, made by Global Healing Center. When I first took it my reactions decreased significantly within two weeks. The most important thing is that it makes you have bowel movements that get rid of the toxins. You can find it online or in certain health food stores. The cheapest one is $10 for 20 capsules on the Global Healing Center website.
Leaky Gut -- Candida yeast poke holes in our intestine, causing what is called leaky gut. These holes allow undigested food particles to seep through our intestine to our bloodstream and also make it harder for the liver to do its work. The best supplement for this is Brown Rice Protein Powder. My favorite brand is Jarrow Formulas, although I've heard from some people that other brands work as well. Brown Rice Protein Powder contains over 20 different amino acids and they help to seal the holes in your intestinal wall. I saw amazing results after 3 weeks to a month. You can find it online and in certain health food stores, including GNC. If you don't believe me that it's effective, just search these forums as a few other people have reported positive results. If it is too expensive, consider getting another supplement with a lot of amino acids in it, although I can't guarantee it will work.
Here's my suggested process for these: try the Oxy Powder first as it offers the quickest relief (use it for about 2 weeks). If you're not seeing anything change try the Brown Rice Powder for at least 3 weeks. The other two supplements are important but their results are not as immediate (take awhile).
Feel free to message me directly if you have any questions. as I do not check these forums very often anymore. Don't worry, this condition can be fought, and you will get through it. Keep hope alive!!
Amer. Check out the post that I wrote not too long ago. PATM is caused by toxic mold. The reason why people react whenever you're around them is because you are carrying microscopic spores from your house. Another possibility is that after being in a moldy house for so long, you are now literally a moldy person and people are reacting to either your odor or your sweat or your skin. Normal doctors have no clue on how to treat this. You need to see an environmental or occupational doctor for this symptom.
First thing you should do is check your house for any signs of mold. Message me after you have done that. I've been in contact with a few specialists so I know what I'm talking about. Not a lot of people know about toxic mold illness. That is why it is pointless to talk to people who will never get it. You are not alone in this! This is not a mental illness. This is serious and real. Long exposure to toxic mold can harm your health.