READ THIS (PART 2/3): PATM: The REAL CURE and REAL EXPLANATION!

[persauto]

Hello PATM community. Here is the second part of me sharing my gift of knowledge and thoughts with the world...  

- Please read PART 1 here:
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/People-Allergic-to-Me-PATM/READ-THIS-This-is-THE-REAL-CURE-and-the-REAL-EXPLANATION-to-this-PATM-condition/show/3071512

Here I want to:
- Part I: Provide you with some examples of crazy thinking I've read in the forums and my thoughts about them
- Part II: Provide some additional philosophical/sociological explanations as to why doctors, the medical system and everyone will tend to conclude that you are all crazy when you say you have PATM
- Part III: Provide you with psychologically healthy self-help tools to survive in this world when you have the PATM curse
- Part IV: Provide you with suggestions on how to contribute to the PATM community on this forum, as common people that we are

PART I: EXAMPLE OF CRAZY THINKING I READ ON FORUMS

If you read my initial text, you understand that I believe PATM could be a real physical/biological condition... But it could also be a specific mental delusion. WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE --- AND YOU DON'T KNOW FOR SURE EITHER. If you have ABSOLUTELY CERTAINTY of what PATM is and your mind cannot be changed when you ABSOLUTELY OBSESS more about the (possibly wrong) CAUSE than the SOLUTION, then maybe you might need some mental health support. I'm not saying that in a condescending way. Being stuck in a (wrong) conclusion with this PATM curse can drive you mad when you have this unknown condition. I'm trying to help us find a REAL (HEALTHY) CURE (whatever it is), and not get stuck to some wrong conclusions. Here's my point about crazy thinking I've read on the forums.... Some people say very crazy things like that they are "causing people to cough through the phone and on TV... and whatever else... because of some energy going through the radiation or other weird conclusions"..... With my broad enough academic knowledge, I would say that I'm 99% sure  THAT THE CONCLUSION IS DELUSIONAL. It's EXTREMELY UNLIKELY that with the current scientific knowledge that biological matters or physical matters could affect humans to humans through phones or televisions or else. I'm lucky to have enough scientific knowledge to exclude those crazy ideas I read on the forums... HOWEVER -- I'M NOT SAYING PEOPLE WHO SAY THOSE THINGS ARE CRAZY... Those specific conclusions might be crazy. Fair enough... But if you read my initial text (on the top) you would understand that I believe that with  PATM, people's mental health deteriorates with time, and they get into a more black and white conclusion about all unrelated events and become crazier. So, what I want to say is this: it's still possible that people saying those crazy things do have PATM, but they started to extrapolate PATM to crazy unrelated events of people coughing and that's exactly what will harm the PATM community from being taken seriously... I do empathize with people trying to make sense of what's happening to them and sometimes being wrong with some unhealthy conclusions that they firmly believe themselves (by some extrapolation of some real PATM issue). SO HERE'S MY CONCLUSION: IT IS ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO CAUSE PEOPLE TO COUGH THROUGH THE PHONE OR TELEVISION (SCIENTIFICALLY)... However --- My scientific open mind says that IT IS SCIENTIFIC POSSIBLE THAT PEOPLE COULD CAUSE "ALLERGIC" REACTIONS TO OTHER PEOPLE. I could not find anything in the existing scientific literature yet as of now... But the way I think is this: if dogs, cats, pollen, dust, perfume, and chemicals in manufactured products can all cause "allergies" to human beings, WHY CAN'T HUMANS CAUSE THOSE "ALLERGIC" REACTIONS TOWARD OTHER HUMANS IN SOME UNKNOWN (BIOLOGICAL) WAYS NOT DISCOVERED BY SCIENCE YET? --- Here's the more scientifically fair conclusion: there's no proof PATM exists, but there's also no proof that PATM doesn't exist.

PART II: Why would everyone automatically think you are crazy if you try to tell them about PATM by default?

You have to empathize with society, the state of human knowledge, the state of medical and scientific knowledge... We have not discovered everything yet and we don't have the time and resources to arrive at absolute certainty about everything -- AND YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THE TIME/RESOURCES OR THE CAPABILITY TO HAVE ABSOLUTELY CERTAINTY AND PERFECTION IN YOUR CONCLUSIONS EITHER... I did a quick research to prove my point... Did you know that with the justice system, the RATE OF WRONGFUL CONVICTION could be between 1 to 4%? So... even if you are innocent... you could go to prison because of a mistake in the justice system's conclusion... THAT'S INSANE, RIGHT? So even with the A+ judges, lawyers, all the social/legal knowledge, people still in our day and age get unfairly convicted! Here's my point: humans are imperfect. The legal system was built by humans and has evolved and gotten better throughout the ages, but it will never be perfect. Think of it this way: it's better to have a 98% accurate legal system rather than a 20% accurate system if we throw the legal system out and we go back through the primitive justice system like in the old times... That's a long detour to bring to my point... With PATM, doctors, medical scientists, society and everyone else will have a 98% accurate default conclusion too. If you fall in the 2%, then it's too bad for you, it's going to be an uphill battle to prove a solidified default conclusion the medical science will have about you... So if you want to bring new knowledge to the scientific community, you need scientific experiments and develop testing tools that will help PATM be moved to the 98% accuracy conclusion. Right now, with all the medical knowledge, THERE ARE A LOT OF MEDICAL CONCLUSIONS THAT ARE MORE LIKELY rather than doctors thinking you would be in a case where you would have an extremely rare condition in the 2% of the cases. Why would doctors bother to do something about a 2% of the case WHEN THEY ARE RIGHT with their limited time and resources in 98%* OF THE CASES, with not giving a wrongful diagnosis (...like wrongful convictions for the judges)... Doctors are probably right most of the time that many people are simply crazy... BUT, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT MOST OF US ARE IN THE UNLUCKY 2% OF THE UNKNOWN TO THE MEDICAL WORLD. That is why we need to provide scientific facts, tests and tools for the human society to integrate the new medical and scientific reality. Until then, ... like judges and doctors, they don't need to bother about those 2% marginal cases... Because, unless proven by science (or by a lawyer/family/people to prove the rare wrongful convictions like for the justice system...), PATM is not real to the medical community, to the human knowledge and society... Not yet... (And it's not like any other unknown medical conditions... It's extremely difficult to prove with anecdotes... It requires control scientific experiments because WHAT WE CLAIM IS THAT THE SYMPTOMS ARE ON OTHER PEOPLE, NOT EVEN OURSELVES!!!). You can only empathize with the doctors, the society, and other people for not believing us... KNOWING ALL THAT, WHAT CAN YOU DO TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE YOU AND BRING AWARENESS SO WE CAN GET OUR PATM SCIENTIFIC STUDIES?

Part III: Psychologically healthy self-help tools to  survive in this world when you have the PATM curse

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[Alex_gu256]

I think that the whole “patm can affect people through phones” can be explained by a psychological solution but only for people who have gotten reactions multiple times and i say this because imagine being in the other person’s perspective and someone you know always make you sneeze or makes your nose runny or irritates your nose or whatever it may be so in your mind you would start to associate the patmer with patm reactions and even though its not intentional you would make an unconscious reactionary move as if the patmer were there so this would be a solution as to why people get reactions over the phone but this cant happen with people you havent met in person because they wouldnt be able to associate you with allergies and what was explained in the post “people get reactions from other sources” can be used in conjunction with the psychological solution as well as people you havent met in person and lastly i just want to thank the OP again for taking action and doing what no one else has done so far so show some appreciation for them