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Still no 100 % cure

We need to work hard.

Still researching on hormones
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I was quiet because it seemed nobody was listening to me, i see from your new post that has changed. Start deworming people. My patm is still improving
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I've tried simlar things the last two years and nothing has changed but yes it definitely becomes worse if I'm drinking alcohol and I rarely drink alcohol. However alcohol usually acts rather anti-bacterial from what I've heard so maybe alcohol just helps to transform our intestinal flora into parasite-friendly.
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I really do feel like all the drinking contributed to my current patm condition and other stuff that gave me bad reflux.  Theres nothin else i did other than smoke dro here n there, unless there was a chemical or parasite in 1 of the batches i bought, that caused this.  Other than that, ive always been really healthy and athletic all my life.  Im 29, and i didnt start drinking or smoking till i was about 23.  I have been drinking ALOT though.
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Right now im on a prescription for helping w acid reflux, the doc is gonna check on this next visit to see if im better, the same, or if it got worse.  I stopped drinkin and am on a strict diet so all this alone already took care of my reflux, even w/out using the medication.  Ill see how it goes this next time.  If i didnt make changes it could turn cancerous so ya, im not bout that life.
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Any treatment they gave you for your damaged esophagus?
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Oh, i originally had an appointment w him just once about 4 weeks ago, mainly cuz of bad breath. He ended up performing an upper endoscopy and that test to see how long it takes food to pass through my digestive system.  Come to find out, i have damage to my lower esophagus from acid reflux.  There is a part in ur body thats suppose to close after u eat. Mine doesnt, meaning acid is free to travel anytime.  So i found that out.  Idk if that has anything to do w patm symptoms, but it was good to find out so i can address THAT issue also
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I have an appointment w my stomach doc soon.  Idk how hes gonna react to what i say, but i will try to explain these symptoms in a way where it doesnt sound so crazy and hard to grasp?  Ill mention the capsule endoscopy, and go from there. Ill let you know what happens.
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The worm looks like fungus, but after doing some analysis on the them the doctor said it a worm. He doesn't have it DNA in his database, so it like he is fighting something he has no idea about.


Please start with the [capsule endoscopy ] maybe you will get more advanced facility to deal with these monsters.


NB. THEY LOOK THE SAME AS THE PICTURE MEOWKITY POSTED ON FACEBOOK...THE SAME MONSTERS
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But as it was extracted from the small intestine?
But as it was extracted from the small intestine?
17489628 tn?1458796338
Observer, i am 2 weeks new to PATM.  I agree that we need to try all we can to make some ground here.  I will be doing my share in helping out.  Im not one to give up, and i am not ready to take the spiritual path like some of the other tenured folks have taken, although i do believe that controlling your anxiety DOES help.

Meowkity, she made me think if deworming is a possible solution.  I read that its better to take more that not enough cuz parasites will become immune if you take too little.  She took a goat dewormer though?? I am not a goat, but im guessing its stronger and maybe targets parasites more effectively?  She hasn't replied i hope she didn't turn into a goat, jk.  Maybe she really did find a cure, and is living it up now.  I cant lie, seeing her comment with all the evidence and all her references gave me some hope.  Maybe its that particular brand that we need to try, and the right dosage?  Idk, but I WILL try it, if not this week than next week.  Bahahaaa
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the medical community thinks this is a joke , until we find somebody in the medical community to lend some credence i'm afraid we'll get nowhere
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have any of you guys tried argan oil soap both for your body and hair? This might be working. Please try it and share your experience with us here. It is not an expensive soap, worth a try.
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Yes i did the breath test and it was the same.
Yes i am not sure, that it's from the small intestine because i have not done it .Pls this is different from the one you did( large intestine ) ,  they have a special machine ( small camera ) that you swallow and it takes pictures of the small intestine as it passes through the small intestine........the one you did is the large colon not the small intestine.

pls somebody should also try...... i dont have money

#learning_english
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true, Maybe machine doesn't exists yet but do you know for sure?  Has someone already tested breath between normal and patm?

And maybe problem is coming from small intestine but was just another avenue to fix the problem by finding what chemical is being released.  

Also, I've had endoscopy done before.  What suggest its in small intestine.  

I'm not challenging you.   I'm just trying get facts and haven't seen that in other threads.   Maybe I missed it.  
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LOL SUCH MACHINE DOS'NT EXIST.THE MACHINE IS PROGRAMED TO DETECT SPECIFIC MOLECULES  NOT PATM MOLECULES, THIS IS WHY IF YOU COMPARE YOUR BREATH WITH NORMAL PERSON USING "BREATH TEST MACHINE " ITS THE SAME........................THERE IS NO MACHINE, TO DETECT PATM MOLECULES.

PLEASE DO SMALL INTESTINE ENDOSCOPY.
THERE IS A SMALL CAMERA THAT CAN PASS THROUGH THE SMALL INTESTINE AND TAKE PICTURES OF THE SMALL INTESTINE.

THE DOCTOR IS VERY CONFIDENT THAT THE PROBLEM IS FROM THE SMALL INTESTINE.




    
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I just joined recently but read some post from Ray looking into what chemicals are in our breath that makes others sneeze.  Unfortunately seems like progress with this has halted.   I think if we found out, it would help us narrow down the problem quite a bit.  
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1 maybe we have an overgrowth, but in an uncommon part of our body (adrenals?)

2 for me (and for others too) it began in a very stressful time period, so it could be possible that this thing that patm causes can exploit weakened immune systems to grow in an uncontrolled velocity

3 yes it seems like this patm trigger also creates it's own antibacterial barrier, some time ago I have read about some types of fungi are able to do so (also candida albicans) , since the two years I am suffering from PATM I was like ~2/3 times sick, nothing compared to previously

4 because they mainly aren't the ones that are allergic to this vibrations/gas/mycotoxins/spores/hormones or whatever creates these patm symptoms. I would agree that this is a blessing for me, if I could still focus on my tasks when people cough like every 2 minutes in a big room filled with many people

5 If there is a physical damage in our body and hormones are leaking, shouldn't it be able to locate the body part someday?

sry if there are grammar mistakes, English isn't my first language.
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I don't think patm is parasite.
#applying common sense

1 why do people suffering from heavy fungal infection[ systemic fungal infection ] dont suffer from patm ??????


2 why do people suffering from patm don't infect people around them if it bacteria or virus infection??????

3 infact patm has made me immune to malaria parasite and other
Infectious diseases [to us it a blessing, but to others it a curse because they cant stay around us]

4 Ask your self why people are leaving with it for 40 years plus with
No complications except people being allergic to them


5 There's hormonal changes some where in our body...we supper humans [THE REASON WHY THERE'S NO CURE IS BECAUSE IT'S SYSTEMATIC CHANGES AND DOCTORS CAN NOT FIGURE IT OUT]

NB
        # MALARIA PARASITE  CAN NOT STAY IN US.....MAYBE THEY WILL USE OUR BLOOD FOR IMMUNIZATION SOME DAY WHEN THEY FULLY UNDERSTAND THE CHEMISTRY  CHANGES WITHIN US.

#grammarError

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maybe there's more to the adrenal insufficiency the doctors are not aware off.

Lol meowkity is quite because she is not cured, she wanted attention. I tried heavy dewormers and nothing helped
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So adrenal insufficiency is not the cause for PATM as you said less than a month ago?

You mentioned you are working with microbiologists, do you think it is possible this 'slime mold' you were diagnosed with could be the cause for PATM as meowkity1 describes it?
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