While he thinks about raping a seventeen year old, the only safe thing for him to do with --- the PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE --- IS TO MOLEST CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE
(NOW HE KNOWS? OR DOES HE EVEN KNOW THAT HIS STEP DAUGHTER REMEMBERS HIM MOLESTING HER? HAVE YOU EVEN BROUGHT IT UP TO HIM)
IN OTHER WORDS, WHILE YOU'RE WORKING NIGHTS, HE CAN BE MOLESTING YOUR BABIES , AT LEAST THE CHILDREN THAT ARE UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE.
take the path of least resistance. MEANING
If someone takes the line of least resistance or takes the path of least resistance, they do the thing that is easiest in a situation. They would rather take the line of least resistance than become involved in arguments or unpleasant situations."
IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S EASIER TO MOLEST A BABY UNDER FIVE YEARS OLD AND NOT GET CAUGHT.
YOU'RE CHILDREN MAY BE BEING MOLESTED WHILE YOU'RE AT WORK. HE MAY ONLY BE TALKING ABOUT YOUR TWELVE YEAR OLD AND SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD, TO PLAY WITH YOU WHILE HE GET'S OFF ON THAT, AND ALL THE WHILE HE MAY BE PHYSICALLY MOLESTING THE YOUNG CHILDREN IN YOUR HOME.
I WISH THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER TALKING TO A PROFESSIONAL THAT KNOWS ABOUT PEDOPHILES. I THINK THAT IT WOULD OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE POSSIBILITIES THAT ARE LIKELY HAPPENING WHILE YOU'RE AT WORK,
SINCE PAST BEHAVIOR PREDICTS FUTURE OR CURRENT BEHAVIOR YOUR HUSBAND WHO HAS JUST PUT YOU IN THE UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION OF HEARING ONCE AGAIN THAT HE WANT TO BE WITH YOUR CHILD, AFTER SEXUALLY MOLESTING HER PROBABLY SINCE SHE WAS TWO YEARS OLD TIL THE AGE OF FIVE AT LEAST... .
YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TIME TO WASTE ---- YOU REAL.LY NEED TO TALK TO PROFESSIONAL THAT CAN TEACH YOU ABOUT PEDOPHILES AND THE STATISTICS OF MEN THAT ABUSE THEIR OWN BABIES AND MANIPULATE WOMEN INTO MAKING IT POSSIBLE
GODSPEED.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN SAY YOU AND HE DON'T HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM ??? - HE IN FACT TELLING YOU OVER AND OVER THAT - THE WHOLE TIME THAT YOU'RE GETTING A BUZZ ON ------ THAT HE'D RATHER HAVE HIS DAUGHTER (FROM AGE 5 YEARS OLD) IN HIS BED THAN YOU???? IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE DID WHEN SHE WAS 5 ONLY THEN THE ONLY PROPER CHOICE FOR A MOTHER TO MAKE IS TO LEAVE. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU BROUGHT A CHILD INTO THE MARRIAGE, WHEN SHE WAS 2 ------ YOU'VE NOW ADMITTED THAT YOU'VE BEEN WITH HIM FOR ONLY 15 YEARS ----- SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR REASONING IS THAT THE SEXUAL ABUSE THAT YOU KNOW HAPPENED WAS HIS STEP DAUGHTER SO YOU THINK THAT THE KIDS YOU HAVE WITH HIM ARE SAFE. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT A MAN WHO ABUSES CHILDREN DOES SO FROM A POSITION OF OPPORTUNITY, NOT BECAUSE THE CHILDREN ARE OF NO BLOOD RELATION. IN OTHER WORDS, THIS ANIMAL IS TESTING YOU TO SEE IF YOU ARE ALRIGHT WITH HIS ACTIONS, BE IT A STEP DAUGHTER OR HIS OWN CHILDREN.
I'M A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC AND HAVE NOT USED SINCE 1999. BUT IN ALL MY YEARS IT NEVER DAWNED ON ME LUST AFTER CHILDREN. SO IN A SENSE, YOU ARE RIGHT THAT THIS IS NOT THAT HE IS DRINKING THAT HE THINKS OF SEXUALLY GETTING WITH A FIVE YEAR OLD, HE DOES THIS BECAUSE HE'S A SEXUAL PREDATOR. YOU ARE MISSING THE FACT THAT HE IS CAPABLE OF LUSTING OVER CHILDREN - PERIOD.. THAT WHEN YOU AND HE ARE IN BED, HE'S THINKING ----- AT LEAST ---- ABOUT HIS STEP DAUGHTER --- AND QUITE POSSIBLY ABOUT HIS OWN BABIES.
YOU ARE MISSING THAT BY HIM DRINKING WITH YOU AND TALKING ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH A MINOR HE IS GROOMING YOU TO DO NOTHING. HE IS PLYING YOU WITH ALCOHOL AND TALKING ABOUT HIS LUSTFUL THOUGHTS ABOUT SEXUALLY MOLESTING CHILDREN. HE'S NOT TELLING YOU HE'S LUSTING ABOUT HIS OWN CHILDREN,, I'M SURE HE WOULDN'T GIVE YOU THE HEADS UP ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT MAY BE TABOO FOR YOU. ONE THING HE DOES KNOW THAT IT IS NOT TABOO FOR HIM TO TALK ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH YOUR MINOR DAUGHTER, HIS STEP DAUGHTER, WHEN SHE WAS FIVE, WHEN SHE WAS TWELVE AND NOW THAT SHE'S SEVENTEEN.
JUST BECAUSE HE'S TALKING ABOUT RAPING YOUR SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD DOES NOT MEAN THAT HE DOESN'T THINK ABOUT RAPING SMALL CHILDREN, OR HIS OWN SMALL CHILDREN.
HE KNOWS BY YOUR REACTION THAT YOU WILL DO NOTHING. YOUR ELDEST DAUGHTER, WHOM YOU BROUGHT INTO THIS RELATIONSHIP KNOWS THAT YOU'VE DONE NOTHING. YOUR CHILDREN WILL KNOW AT LEAST AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER, THAT YOU ALLOWED YOUR HUSBAND TO ABUSE HIS STEP DAUGHTER AND YOU DID NOTHING . AND THAT'S IF YOUR CHILDREN WITH HIM ARE NOT ABUSED BY HIM. BUT THEY MAY BE. AND THEY MAY SAY NOTHING, BECAUSE AS YOU'VE ADMITTED YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO SAY "YOU HAVE NO POWER " IN OTHER WORDS, I'M INCAPABLE OF DEALING WITH THIS THE RIGHT WAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE ALCOHOL IS CONFUSING YOU, OR IF YOU ARE JUST AS CONFUSED WITHOUT ALCOHOL, WHAT IM SAYING IS THAT WHILE YOU THINK YOU ARE HAVING A "FEW DRINKS WITH YOUR MAN IN BED" WHAT HE IS DOING IS THINKING ABOUT MOLESTING CHILDREN. WHETHER YOU ARE LAYING WITH YOUR MAN, OR HAVING SEX WITH YOUR MAN, HE HAS TOLD YOU THAT WHAT HE REALLY WANTS IS TO RAPE A SMALL CHILD, A TWELVE YEAR OLD AND A SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD. HE LIKEY HAS LONG SINCE STOPPED THINKING ABOUT YOU WHILE HAVING SEX. THE REALITY IS THAT PREDATORS GROOM WOMEN WHO HAVE CHILDREN BROUGHT INTO THE RELATINSHIP TO ABUSE THEM, AND THESE TYPES OF SICKO'S ARE CERTAINLY NOT ABOVE ABUSING THEIR OWN.
THE WOMEN THAT COMMENTED ON YOUR POST KNOWS THIS FIRST HAND. YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN CLEAR WARNING THAT WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS ENABLING A "DRUNK " (YOUR WORDS) SEX OFFENDER AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU ARE OFFERING YOURSELF AS A BODY FOR HIM TO FANTASIZE ABOUT ---
HAVING SEX WITH YOUNG CHILDREN.
IN YOUR WORDS YOU SAY YOU ARE CONFUSED. AND IT APPEARS THAT YOU ARE VERY CONFUSED SINCE YOU HAVE IN ESSENCE MADE EXCUSES SO YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT HAVING DRINKS WITH A MAN THAT TELLS YOU STRAIGHT UP ----- HE WOULD PREFER LAYING WITH A CHILD RATHER THAN YOU.
IF MY MAN TALKED ABOUT HAVING ANOTHER WOMEN WHILE HE WAS IN BED WITH ME, I WOULD NOT BE CONFUSED. I WOULD WALK AWAY KNOWING THAT HE WAS TELLING ME HE WOULD PREFER ANOTHER WOMAN OR OTHER WOMEN.
BUT THE FATHER OF YOUR CHILDREN, AND ANOTHER MAN'S CHILD ---- IS TELLING YOU POINT BLANK, STRAIGHT UP , FOR YEARS NOW, THAT HE'D RATHER BE WITH KIDS THAN YOU. WHILE HE'S PLYING YOU WITH ALCOHOL SO THAT YOU'RE MORE RELAXED HAVING THE CONVERSATION, I'M SURE HE'S GIVE HAVE GIVEN HIS TWELVE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER ALCOHOL TO HAVE HER BE CONFUSED ENOUGH TO SIT AND LISTEN TO HIM TELLING HER WHY HE THINKS ITS A GOOD IDEA FOR HIM TO DEFLOWER HER, PERHAPS TEACH HER TO BE A WOMEN ===== CUZ THAT'S THE CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENS TO CHILDREN BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED, OFTEN ALCOHOL IS USED TO GROOM A CHILD OR A MOTHER TO CONTINUE HAVING FANTASIES ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN. ------=- ARE YOU CONFUSED ABOUT THAT ?
LET'S SAY YOU DON'T CARE THAT HE WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH HIS CHILDREN - LET'S SAY HE'S OPENED UP AND TALKED TO YOU ABOUT WANTING TO "HAVE" A CHILD, WANTING TO RAPE A CHILD, RATHER THAN TO BE WITH YOU. DOESN'T THAT MATTER TO YOU AT ALL.?
lET'S PRETEND IT'S NOT YOUR CHILD AT RISK, LET'S SAY THAT HE GOES' AND FINDS ANOTHER WOMEN TO GROOM SO THAT HE CAN GET AT HER CHILDREN =-- OR "HAVE" HER CHILDREN AS HE CALLS IT. WOULD THAT MATTER TO YOU THAT HE'D RATHER HAVE A CHILD, ANY CHILD, OVER YOU. ?
CUZ. I'M SORRY TO SAY THIS, BUT THAT'S HOW MUCH HE THINKS OF YOUR SEX LIFE AND YOUR INTIMACY. --- EVEN WHEN HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT OPENLY WITH YOU - HE IS THINKING THAT HE'S NOT HAPPY JUST BEING WITH A WOMEN ---- HE WANTS CHILDREN.....
DOESN'T THAT MATTER TO YOU?
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I know it is hard to process things and it takes time. Really, I understand that. When the person we are with does the unimaginable it probably seems surreal. Unreal even. I just want you to know that I'm very sorry you are faced with this issue. There is no judgement as you adjust to this new information about your partner. You are absorbing it and coming to grips with it. In the end, I'm sure you'll handle it properly.
It's hard after many years of marriage and our habits and routines to take drastic steps. I get this. What is your financial situation like without him? do you have any family support? hugs
The saddest thing is this, You are probably thinking that this is all about your husband , but it's not. This is about you. This is about you not knowing healthy boundaries and demanding that they be adhered to. 5 years ago, he got drunk, when your girl was 12 and asked you to give her to him. And yet, 5 years later, you're in bed with him, and he's asking again, now that she's 17 , for you to "give her to him" to have sex with. We all know that this man is a criminal and sexually deviant and will not change unless he has his children taken from him, and get's help for his deviance and his drinking. But, how do you get the help you need? So he may be "INCORRIGIBLE"
in·cor·ri·gi·ble
inˈkôrəjəb(ə)l/Submit
adjective
1.
(of a person or their tendencies) not able to be corrected, improved, or reformed.
"she's an incorrigible flirt"
synonyms: inveterate, habitual, confirmed, hardened, dyed-in-the-wool, incurable, chronic, irredeemable, hopeless, beyond hope;
ARE YOU INCORRIGIBLE? Can you PLEASE try to talk to a therapist and ask for help FOR YOURSELF. SO THAT YOU CAN BE STRONG AND DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE ONCE AND FOR ALL?
What I am about to Say, May Sound Harsh! PLEASE know, My Words/Advice are Said with a “Tough Love”-Voice!!!
First of All... YOU ARE NOT POWERLESS!! “WHY?’ would You SAY/THINK That!” Does your partner make You Feel that way? Regardless, You’re NOT!! And For Your Daughter sake, You Absolutely Can NOT Have That Mindset!! As Of RIGHT NOW, You’re The STRONGEST Woman & Mother There IS!!
You’re Daughter is 17 Now!
But, her Mind & Childhood ALL Stopped at 5yrs. Old! So, Forget About the 12 Yrs. That Past!! LOOK at Her Now, As Your 5 Yr. Old LITTLE GIRL, & LOOK Into Those INNOCENT Eyes!!!
*(She's 5, You're Her Mother &
You JUST FOUND OUT Her Father ABUSED Her!)....
"What Are You Going To Do?”
You & Your Children will be in my prayers....
Perhaps it would help you to talk to a therapist?
I will leave this now, and pray that it helps you to move forward with foresight and precision.
Women and girls have long been vulnerable to crimes of sexual abuse, though men and boys are certainly victims of these crimes, too. Although we do not have the power to change our pasts, we can find the power to alter our futures. What happened to us then does not have to dictate what happens to us now; we can heal ourselves in a way the illusory tincture of alcohol or drugs never could. That healing often begins in finding, and telling, our deepest truths.
I was abused.
and
My name is _______, and I am an addict.
STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, THIS COULD BE YOUR DAUGHTER AFTER 20 YEARS OF DRUG ADDICTION.
According to the American Journal on Addictions, 75 percent of women who enter treatment programs report having experienced sexual abuse. And according to the Journal of Traumatic Stress, an alarming 90 percent of women who become dependent on alcohol “suffered severe violence at the hands of a parent” or “were sexually abused during childhood.” And there is not only a strong correlation between childhood sexual abuse and addiction, but one exists between later incidences of sexual assault and addiction as well.
The police should be called with this happening in your home. By you. or by anyone that knows this is going on. You say you are "confused and powerless" = Alcohol will do that to a person. I suggest that you stop drinking because i think that it is confusing you and making your responsibilities unclear to yourself. Your children are too young to know what the responsibilities are of a parent. Your 17 year old will soon know, but your other children are probably younger and it will take them more time to be clear with you, but someday they will question you, why you were confused and why you were drinking with a drunk that abused children sexually, and then asked to abuse them again, when they became young adults. (disgusting). . There is much help here on Medhelp in the Addictions Forums, and Alcoholic Forums to help you and give you advice how to stop drinking yourself so that you are no longer confused. Imagine what that would look like,, not being confused and not being powerless. It would be empowering. It would empower your 17 year old to know she's been heard, and what she went through, was not on deaf ears.
STOP DRINKING THE KOOLAID IT'S DEADLY TO YOUR INTEGRITY AS A MOTHER
Your post is 'WHAT SHOULD I DO" and i think that across the board you've been told to separate from the man that SEXUALLY ABUSES CHILDREN.
I have a question for you. What will you do? Will you take the advice, or will you do nothing?
My mother decided that she was powerless and , as children do, we all grew up fast, and it was her biggest regret that she didn't perform and remove her kids from harm. My father was a madman, my mother was ineffective. To us kids, it meant we had two parents that in essence abused us , by not keeping us safe. My mother lived and died with the worst regret a person can have, to not stand up for their kids. You're at ground zero, and you can change this. Do nothing, and you stand a chance of having your own kids, and their future families put in jeopardy. He's not worth it.
At last consider stepping up and being the "HERO". in this equation.
** A HEALTHY male role model for your kids and yourself.
Women are NOT powerless. There are many support systems for mothers and children. It is your job as a parent to teach your children that women are NOT powerless. You can't afford to play possum. Your daughter knows that you know that she was abused. You have children in the house. How do you think that she's going to view you, if when you did find out about the abuse you did nothing? that you chose instead to say and be "powerless" and ineffective as a parent? Is he worth that to you? Are you willing to be known to your children as the mother who did nothing upon finding out that their dad abused at least one child, and did nothing? You deserve more from your relationship with your children, and you deserve more from a man. You can provide a healthy example of a father to your kids, but first you have to do whatever it takes to leave. If he's working, the courts will award you financial support. In order to keep all your children safe, you need to fully address this issue with a child psychologist and have all your children in therapy to find out if he's abused any of your other children. This will be hard on everyone, but doing nothing I believe will be much harder in the long run. If you deal with head on, and find closure for yourself and your children, you have a chance to move on and find a male role model for your kids. I think you need to talk to a therapist immediately and find a way to change your opinion of yourself, that you are "powerless" or that a man has made you feel like you are "powerless". It could not be further from the truth.
I agree, you are going to have to find the backbone to get your daughter and the other kids and you, out of there. He will not change his desire to have sex with children. Also, his attempt to draw you into it is really appalling. He is trying to share the blame, in a way -- trying to get you to give him permission so he does not have to take the responsibility for his acts. Don't let him blame you or pretend to himself that it's all right with you; your indignant anger is the only thing protecting your children, until you get out physically.
If you think he did this in your heart of hearts, stopped or not stopped, how could you stay with him? A man who sexually touches a little girl? People don't just get over that either. Every child he is around is in danger. Future grandchildren, etc. And he certainly damaged your daughter. I would end things myself if I was sure this happened. I would ALWAYS side with my kids even if just on principle.