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Just find out my partner was touching my daughter when she was 5,but stop ages ago,now she is 17 and i have 4 kids with him now what can i do.i'm confuses and powerless.
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While he thinks about raping a seventeen year old, the only safe thing for him to do with --- the PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE --- IS TO MOLEST CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE

(NOW HE KNOWS? OR DOES HE EVEN KNOW THAT HIS STEP DAUGHTER REMEMBERS HIM MOLESTING HER? HAVE YOU EVEN BROUGHT IT UP TO HIM)

IN OTHER WORDS, WHILE YOU'RE WORKING NIGHTS, HE CAN BE MOLESTING YOUR BABIES , AT LEAST THE CHILDREN THAT ARE UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE.

take the path of least resistance. MEANING
If someone takes the line of least resistance or takes the path of least resistance, they do the thing that is easiest in a situation. They would rather take the line of least resistance than become involved in arguments or unpleasant situations."

IN  OTHER WORDS, IT'S EASIER TO MOLEST A BABY UNDER FIVE YEARS OLD AND NOT GET CAUGHT.

YOU'RE CHILDREN MAY BE BEING MOLESTED WHILE YOU'RE AT WORK. HE MAY ONLY BE TALKING ABOUT YOUR TWELVE YEAR OLD AND SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD, TO PLAY WITH YOU WHILE HE GET'S OFF ON THAT, AND ALL THE WHILE HE MAY BE PHYSICALLY MOLESTING THE YOUNG CHILDREN IN YOUR HOME.

I WISH THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER TALKING TO A PROFESSIONAL THAT KNOWS ABOUT PEDOPHILES. I THINK THAT IT WOULD OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE POSSIBILITIES THAT ARE LIKELY HAPPENING WHILE YOU'RE AT WORK,

SINCE PAST BEHAVIOR PREDICTS FUTURE OR CURRENT BEHAVIOR YOUR HUSBAND WHO HAS JUST PUT YOU IN THE UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION OF HEARING ONCE AGAIN THAT HE WANT TO BE WITH YOUR CHILD, AFTER SEXUALLY MOLESTING HER PROBABLY SINCE SHE WAS TWO YEARS OLD TIL THE AGE OF FIVE AT LEAST... .

YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TIME TO WASTE ---- YOU REAL.LY NEED TO TALK TO PROFESSIONAL THAT CAN TEACH YOU ABOUT PEDOPHILES AND THE STATISTICS OF MEN THAT ABUSE THEIR OWN BABIES AND MANIPULATE WOMEN INTO MAKING IT POSSIBLE

GODSPEED.
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Thank you for reaching out here and thanking us for our help. This is a contentious issue and it is a hard conversation to have. It take a lot of energy to put together these thoughts that we have done here, and i appreciate that you appreciate our efforts. I can only pray that you take the advice that you've been given by all, and i'm sure others will be by to add to this, although i'm sure that all of the advice will essentially be the same. So thank you for saying here on the thread, and by private message, "Thank You for the time and effort that it takes to answer you'r question as fully as it has been covered." I appreciate your being open to hearing how others feel about such a sensitive issue.
I have opened up here and talked alot as the issue of "staying for the children" caused 4 children to drink and do drugs until just about dead - as my mother allowed abuse for all of our lives. Please understand, i am speaking as  child that always felt ostracized from normal society because i was forced to live with a madman with no reprieve. No one spoke out, no one saved us, it was as if no one cared. I always felt dirty having a dad like the one i was given. I so wish i could have been removed and raised by a good man. I would give anything now to have changed my story, and the story of my siblings - one of which was a step brother that my mother had and brought into our home when he was 1.5 years old.  His only saving grace was a relationship with his biolpgical father, although as this child was allowed to be raised in my father's home, obviously there was a problem, but not one of such abject abuse. I apologize to anyone that would rather not hear all of what i had to say, but i believe that it will help, and all i want to do is help. So thank you to all who have read my long answers, especially here on this post. I will leave this now to others. I have said what i felt i needed to say.

ANNIEBROOKE, SPECIALMOM (COMMUNITY LEADER) AND TRUSTYURGUT HAVE ALL been concise and ASKED YOU QUESTIONS, THAT I HOPE THAT YOU CAN RESPOND TO.  In answering their questions of you, you will in fact be answering all of my questions. and ,again, thanks for listening.
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I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN SAY YOU AND HE DON'T HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM ??? - HE IN FACT TELLING YOU OVER AND OVER THAT - THE WHOLE TIME THAT  YOU'RE GETTING A BUZZ ON ------ THAT HE'D RATHER HAVE HIS DAUGHTER (FROM AGE 5 YEARS OLD) IN HIS BED THAN YOU???? IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE DID WHEN SHE WAS 5 ONLY THEN THE ONLY  PROPER CHOICE FOR A MOTHER TO MAKE IS TO LEAVE. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU BROUGHT A CHILD INTO THE MARRIAGE, WHEN SHE WAS 2  ------ YOU'VE NOW ADMITTED THAT YOU'VE BEEN WITH HIM FOR ONLY 15 YEARS ----- SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR REASONING IS THAT THE SEXUAL ABUSE THAT YOU KNOW HAPPENED  WAS HIS STEP DAUGHTER SO YOU THINK THAT THE KIDS YOU HAVE WITH HIM ARE SAFE. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT A MAN WHO ABUSES CHILDREN DOES SO FROM A POSITION OF OPPORTUNITY, NOT BECAUSE THE CHILDREN ARE OF NO BLOOD RELATION.  IN OTHER WORDS, THIS ANIMAL IS TESTING YOU TO SEE IF YOU ARE ALRIGHT WITH HIS ACTIONS, BE IT A STEP DAUGHTER OR HIS OWN CHILDREN.

I'M A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC AND HAVE NOT USED SINCE 1999. BUT IN ALL MY YEARS IT NEVER DAWNED ON ME LUST AFTER CHILDREN. SO IN A SENSE, YOU ARE RIGHT THAT THIS IS NOT THAT HE IS DRINKING THAT HE THINKS OF SEXUALLY GETTING WITH A FIVE YEAR OLD, HE DOES THIS BECAUSE HE'S A SEXUAL PREDATOR.   YOU ARE MISSING THE FACT THAT HE IS CAPABLE OF LUSTING OVER CHILDREN - PERIOD..  THAT WHEN YOU AND HE ARE IN BED, HE'S THINKING ----- AT LEAST ---- ABOUT HIS STEP DAUGHTER --- AND QUITE POSSIBLY ABOUT HIS OWN BABIES.

YOU ARE MISSING THAT BY HIM DRINKING WITH YOU AND TALKING ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH A MINOR HE IS GROOMING YOU TO DO NOTHING. HE IS PLYING YOU WITH ALCOHOL AND TALKING ABOUT HIS LUSTFUL THOUGHTS ABOUT SEXUALLY MOLESTING CHILDREN.  HE'S NOT TELLING YOU HE'S LUSTING ABOUT HIS OWN CHILDREN,, I'M SURE HE WOULDN'T GIVE YOU THE HEADS UP ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT MAY BE TABOO FOR YOU. ONE THING HE DOES KNOW THAT IT IS NOT TABOO FOR HIM TO TALK ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH YOUR MINOR DAUGHTER, HIS STEP DAUGHTER, WHEN SHE WAS FIVE, WHEN SHE WAS TWELVE AND NOW THAT SHE'S SEVENTEEN.

JUST BECAUSE HE'S TALKING ABOUT RAPING YOUR SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD DOES NOT MEAN THAT HE DOESN'T THINK ABOUT RAPING SMALL CHILDREN, OR HIS OWN SMALL CHILDREN.

HE KNOWS BY YOUR REACTION THAT YOU WILL DO NOTHING. YOUR ELDEST DAUGHTER, WHOM YOU BROUGHT INTO THIS RELATIONSHIP KNOWS THAT YOU'VE DONE NOTHING. YOUR CHILDREN WILL KNOW AT LEAST AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER, THAT YOU ALLOWED YOUR HUSBAND TO ABUSE HIS STEP DAUGHTER AND YOU DID NOTHING . AND THAT'S IF YOUR CHILDREN WITH HIM ARE NOT ABUSED BY HIM. BUT THEY MAY BE. AND THEY MAY SAY NOTHING, BECAUSE AS YOU'VE ADMITTED YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO SAY "YOU HAVE NO POWER " IN OTHER WORDS, I'M INCAPABLE OF DEALING WITH THIS THE RIGHT WAY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE ALCOHOL IS CONFUSING YOU, OR IF YOU ARE JUST AS CONFUSED WITHOUT ALCOHOL, WHAT IM SAYING IS THAT WHILE YOU THINK YOU ARE HAVING A "FEW DRINKS WITH YOUR MAN IN BED" WHAT HE IS DOING IS THINKING ABOUT MOLESTING CHILDREN. WHETHER YOU ARE LAYING WITH YOUR MAN, OR HAVING SEX WITH YOUR MAN, HE HAS TOLD YOU THAT WHAT HE REALLY WANTS IS TO RAPE A SMALL CHILD, A TWELVE YEAR OLD AND A SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD. HE LIKEY HAS LONG SINCE STOPPED THINKING ABOUT YOU WHILE HAVING SEX. THE REALITY IS THAT PREDATORS GROOM WOMEN WHO HAVE CHILDREN BROUGHT INTO THE RELATINSHIP TO ABUSE THEM, AND THESE TYPES OF SICKO'S ARE CERTAINLY NOT ABOVE ABUSING THEIR OWN.

THE WOMEN THAT COMMENTED ON YOUR POST KNOWS THIS FIRST HAND. YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN CLEAR WARNING THAT WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS ENABLING A "DRUNK " (YOUR WORDS) SEX OFFENDER AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU ARE OFFERING YOURSELF AS A BODY FOR HIM TO FANTASIZE ABOUT ---

HAVING SEX WITH YOUNG CHILDREN.

IN YOUR WORDS YOU SAY YOU ARE CONFUSED.  AND IT APPEARS THAT YOU ARE VERY CONFUSED SINCE  YOU HAVE IN ESSENCE MADE EXCUSES SO YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT HAVING DRINKS WITH A MAN THAT TELLS YOU STRAIGHT UP ----- HE WOULD PREFER  LAYING WITH A CHILD RATHER THAN YOU.

IF MY MAN TALKED ABOUT HAVING ANOTHER WOMEN WHILE HE WAS IN BED WITH ME, I WOULD NOT BE CONFUSED. I WOULD WALK AWAY KNOWING THAT HE WAS TELLING ME HE WOULD PREFER ANOTHER WOMAN OR OTHER WOMEN.

BUT THE FATHER OF YOUR CHILDREN, AND ANOTHER MAN'S CHILD ---- IS TELLING YOU POINT BLANK, STRAIGHT UP , FOR YEARS NOW,  THAT HE'D RATHER BE WITH KIDS THAN YOU.      WHILE HE'S PLYING YOU WITH ALCOHOL SO THAT YOU'RE MORE RELAXED HAVING THE CONVERSATION, I'M SURE HE'S GIVE HAVE GIVEN HIS TWELVE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER ALCOHOL TO HAVE HER BE CONFUSED ENOUGH TO SIT AND LISTEN TO HIM TELLING HER WHY HE THINKS ITS A GOOD IDEA FOR HIM TO DEFLOWER HER, PERHAPS TEACH HER TO BE A WOMEN ===== CUZ THAT'S THE CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENS TO CHILDREN BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED, OFTEN ALCOHOL IS USED TO GROOM A CHILD OR A MOTHER TO CONTINUE HAVING FANTASIES ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN.  ------=-               ARE YOU CONFUSED ABOUT THAT ?

LET'S SAY YOU DON'T CARE THAT HE WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH HIS CHILDREN - LET'S SAY HE'S OPENED UP AND TALKED TO YOU ABOUT WANTING TO "HAVE" A CHILD, WANTING TO RAPE A CHILD, RATHER THAN TO BE WITH YOU. DOESN'T THAT MATTER TO YOU AT ALL.?

lET'S PRETEND IT'S NOT YOUR CHILD AT RISK, LET'S SAY THAT HE GOES' AND FINDS ANOTHER WOMEN TO GROOM SO THAT HE CAN GET AT HER CHILDREN =-- OR "HAVE" HER CHILDREN AS HE CALLS IT. WOULD THAT MATTER TO YOU THAT HE'D RATHER HAVE A CHILD, ANY CHILD, OVER YOU. ?

CUZ. I'M SORRY TO SAY THIS, BUT THAT'S HOW MUCH HE THINKS OF YOUR SEX LIFE AND YOUR INTIMACY. --- EVEN WHEN HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT OPENLY WITH YOU - HE IS THINKING THAT HE'S NOT HAPPY JUST BEING WITH A WOMEN ---- HE WANTS CHILDREN.....

DOESN'T THAT MATTER TO YOU?




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UNFORTUNATELY YOU ARE OFFERING YOURSELF AS A BODY FOR HIM TO FANTASIZE ABOUT ---

HAVING SEX WITH YOUNG CHILDREN.

WHAT I MEANT TO SAY IS THAT WHILE HE IS USING YOUR BODY HE IS THINKING THAT YOU ARE FIVE OR TWELVE OR SEVENTEEN - AND THAT IT'S NOT YOU AT ALL THAT HE'S RELIEVING HIMSELF IN ---- AT FIVE TWELVE OR SEVENTEEN - ITS A WHOLE OTHER PERSON AT FIVE TWELVE OR SEVENTEEN.

IN OTHER WORDS, I FEEL REALLY BAD THAT IF YOU ARE INTIMATE WITH THIS MAN,  ---- THAT WHILE YOU ARE INTIMATE WITH THIS MAN - ---- HE IS WIPING YOUR FACE AND BODY OUT OF HIS MIND AND FANTASIZING ABOUT CHILDREN ---- OR MAYBE HE DOES THINK OF YOU SOMETIMES, ENAMOURED WITH YOU because BECAUSE because YOU HAVE ALLOWED HIM TO NOT ONLY ABUSE YOUR CHILD, BUT ALSO CONTINUALLY TALK ABOUT ABUSING AT LEAST ONE OF YOUR CHILDREN.  I'M PRETTY SURE THAT A SICKO CHILD MOLESTER WOULD BE GRATIFIED BEING INTIMATE WITH THE WOMEN THAT HE TALKED INTO ALWAYS BEING THERE FOR HIM WHILE HE PLAYS WITH YOU ---- ASKING YOU WHAT HE KNOWS TO BE A REALLY DIFFICULT THING FOR YOU TO HEAR.   THIS WOULD EXCITE A SEXUAL PREDATOR, TO ASK A WOMEN TO "HAVE" SEX WITH HER CHILDREN.  THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING A MAN LIKE YOUR HUSBAND, GET'S OFF ON. BEING ABLE TO MANIPULATE A WOMEN THIS WAY ---- TO HAVE HER SIT AND DRINK WITH HIM WHILE HE TALKS ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH HER CHILD.

YOU ARE BEING MANIPULATED BY THIS SICK MAN.

FOR YOU TO SAY THAT THIS HAPPENED ONCE, IN ONE BREATH AND THEN SAY THAT HE'S ASKED YOU WHETHER HE CAN 'HAVE' YOUR DAUGHTER AT TWELVE AND SEVENTEEN IS JUST SO SICK AND SO CRAZY.

THE ONLY THING THAT YOU'VE SAID IS THAT YOU DONT' HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS MUCH DEEPER, MUCH BIGGER AND I ONLY HOPE THAT ONE DAY YOU WAKE UP AND SEE A THERAPIST ABOUT THE MAN THAT IS MANIPULATING YOU INTO BEING THE TYPE OF MOTHER THAT HE WANTS.  ---- CONFUSED AND EASILY MANIPULATED.

THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE I CAN SAY ABOUT THIS.

I FEEL SO BAD FOR YOUR DAUGHTER, AND YOUR CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY ARE CHILDREN.

I CAN'T SAY I FEEL BAD ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE'S MANIPULATING YOU  BECAUSE YOU ARE AN ADULT, WOMEN MAKING THE DECISION THAT BEING WITH A SEXAULLY DEVIANT CHILD MOLESTER (A MAN THAT HAS CONTINUALLY TOLD YOU HE'D RATHER BE WITH A CHILD THAN WITH YOU IS THE ROLE  THAT YOU'VE DECIDED TO STICK WITH, FOR YOUR CHILDREN.

AS A CHILD THAT CAME FROM ABUSE, THAT EXCUSE TO BE WITH SOMEONE YOU THINK IS SPECIAL, WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE SICK, IS ESSENTIALLY PUTTING THE BLAME ON THE CHILDREN . THE OLD WORN OUT EXCUSE THAT MY MOTHER USED -=-== I STAYED FOR THE CHILDREN.

THINK ABOUT HOW CRAZY THAT IS..

YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY SAYING, THAT "I'M STAYING WITH A CHILD MOLESTER WHO CONTINUALLY THINKS ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH CHILDREN --==== FOR THE CHILDREN"

I SUGGESTS YOU DO WHAT IT TAKES TO FIND A REAL MAN THAT A CHILD CAN BE PROUD OF . UNFORTUNATELY IF YOU STICK WITH THIS MAN ETERNALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EGG ON YOUR FACE HAVING STUCK BY YOUR MAN, WHOSE A PEDOPHILE.  IT WON'T LOOK GOOD FOR YOU IN HEAVEN.  OR WHEN YOUR CHILDREN ARE IN HEAVEN.

THE ALTERNATE CHOICE YOU CAN MAKE, IS TO FIND A REALLY FINE ROLE MODEL FOR YOUR CHILDREN, AND TO LEAVE THIS ANIMAL IN YOUR DUST.  REMOVE YOUR CHILDREN BASED ON HIS OWN CONTINUAL ASSERTION, THAT HE WANTS TO BE WITH A FIVE YEAR OLD, A TWELVE YEAR OLD AND SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD.  FIND YOUR KIDS A BETTER MAN. YOU DIDN'T THINK THIS THROUGH AND MADE A POOR CHOICE IN  MAN. IF THIS MEANS THAT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE SPENDING MONEY, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE PAY BIG MONEY IN TAXES, TO GET YOU OUT OF THIS EXACT VERY BAD SITUATION , SO THAT YOUR CHILDREN ARE NOT EFFECTED BY THIS MAD MAN.

YOUR STORY IS NOT NEW.
'The sins of the fathers shall be visited upon the sons.'
if the mother does not protect their children and are confused as to why a sexually deviant man is with them in the first place.

He got with you when your child was two. That's probably when he started to abuse your child and stopped when he figured she might remember. Think about that one and it might clear up a few confusions.



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I know it is hard to process things and it takes time.  Really, I understand that.  When the person we are with does the unimaginable it probably seems surreal.  Unreal even.  I just want you to know that I'm very sorry you are faced with this issue.  There is no judgement as you adjust to this new information about your partner.  You are absorbing it and coming to grips with it. In the end, I'm sure you'll handle it properly.

It's hard after many years of marriage and our habits and routines to take drastic steps.  I get this. What is your financial situation like without him?  do you have any family support?   hugs
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The saddest thing is this, You are probably thinking that this is all about your husband , but it's not. This is about you. This is about you not knowing healthy boundaries and demanding that they be adhered to. 5 years ago, he got drunk, when your girl was 12 and asked you to give her to him. And yet, 5 years later, you're in bed with him, and he's asking again, now that she's 17 , for you to "give her to him" to have sex with. We all know that this man is a criminal and sexually deviant and will not change unless he has his children taken from him, and get's help for his deviance and his drinking. But, how do you get the help you need? So he may be "INCORRIGIBLE"

in·cor·ri·gi·ble
inˈkôrəjəb(ə)l/Submit
adjective
1.
(of a person or their tendencies) not able to be corrected, improved, or reformed.
"she's an incorrigible flirt"
synonyms: inveterate, habitual, confirmed, hardened, dyed-in-the-wool, incurable, chronic, irredeemable, hopeless, beyond hope;

ARE YOU INCORRIGIBLE? Can you PLEASE try to talk to a therapist and ask for help FOR YOURSELF. SO THAT YOU CAN BE STRONG AND DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE ONCE AND FOR ALL?
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What I am about to Say, May Sound Harsh! PLEASE know, My Words/Advice are Said with a “Tough Love”-Voice!!!

First of All... YOU ARE NOT POWERLESS!!  “WHY?’ would You SAY/THINK That!” Does your partner make You Feel that way?  Regardless, You’re NOT!! And For Your Daughter sake, You Absolutely Can NOT Have That Mindset!!  As Of RIGHT NOW, You’re The STRONGEST Woman & Mother There IS!!  

You’re Daughter is 17 Now!
But, her Mind & Childhood ALL Stopped at 5yrs. Old!  So, Forget About the 12 Yrs. That Past!! LOOK at Her Now, As Your 5 Yr. Old LITTLE GIRL, & LOOK Into Those INNOCENT Eyes!!!
*(She's 5, You're Her Mother &
You JUST FOUND OUT Her Father ABUSED Her!)....
"What Are You Going To Do?”

You & Your Children will be in my prayers....
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Perhaps it would help you to talk to a therapist?
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I will leave this now, and pray that it helps you to move forward with foresight and precision.
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Women and girls have long been vulnerable to crimes of sexual abuse, though men and boys are certainly victims of these crimes, too. Although we do not have the power to change our pasts, we can find the power to alter our futures. What happened to us then does not have to dictate what happens to us now; we can heal ourselves in a way the illusory tincture of alcohol or drugs never could. That healing often begins in finding, and telling, our deepest truths.

I was abused.

and

My name is _______, and I am an addict.

STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, THIS COULD BE YOUR DAUGHTER AFTER 20 YEARS OF DRUG ADDICTION.
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BY YOU STEPPING UP NOW, AND SHOWING YOUR INTEGRITY AND AS SPECIAL MOM SAID, THAT YOU ARE STANDING UP FOR YOUR SEXUALLY ABUSED CHILD NOW ON PRINCIPLES , YOU COULD STOP THIS POSSIBLE PROGRESSION FOR YOUR DAUGHTER.  ANY WAY YOU LOOK AT IT, YOUR DAUGHTER HAS HAD TO PUT THE SEXUAL ABUSE IN THE BACKGROUND, BECAUSE NO ONE WAS INFORMED AND WHEN THEY WERE, NO ONE DID ANYTHING, SO SHE LIVED ON, BUT SEXUAL ABUSE DOES SOMETHING TO A CHILD AND TURNS UP AS A YOUNG ADULT, OFTEN IN DRINKING HERSELF AND DOING DRUGS. BEING PERMISCUOUS, LOOKING FOR A MALE ROLE MODEL, ACCEPTING THE SAME TYPE OF MAN THAT HER ROLE MODEL WAS (SOMEONE LIKE YOUR HUSBAND).

ABUSED CHILDREN DON'T CRY CUZ THEY FEEL NOBODY IS LISTENING. SO THEY BURY IT AND IT COMES UP IN THEIR OWN MALAJUSTED BEHAVIORS.

I HOPE YOUR DAUGHTER GET;S THE REAL HELP SHE NEEDS - AND THAT HELP IS YOU STANDING UP FOR HER NOW..
You asked what you should do dear. I'm sorry if it's hard to hear or harder to do. It is what it is. You will not be alone. There are many women that understand, many women will help you if you reach out. I promise you.
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According to the American Journal on Addictions, 75 percent of women who enter treatment programs report having experienced sexual abuse. And according to the Journal of Traumatic Stress, an alarming 90 percent of women who become dependent on alcohol “suffered severe violence at the hands of a parent” or “were sexually abused during childhood.” And there is not only a strong correlation between childhood sexual abuse and addiction, but one exists between later incidences of sexual assault and addiction as well.
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Thanks, but we don't  have drinking  problem  as i said  it, i know that not an excuses but i have 4 children with the man with a 6 months baby i know him 15 years  now he is a great father for his children's  includes my daughter .but at the same time i have to thinks of what he did 12 years  ago , and the thinking he's asking me permission, " like why he never approach  my daughter  for 12 years . I confronted  him he denied, my daughter  say she can hardly remember  but she knose that he had touch her once. I know your advise is helping me a lots , but thoses 4 asual need their dad
Children do not need an abusive dad. You are deluding yourself if you think he has never done anything further to your daughter nor will do so. You will have to be constantly vigilant and watch him every moment with all the kids. Can you do that?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN SAY YOU AND HE DON'T HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM ??? - HE IN FACT TELLING YOU OVER AND OVER THAT - THE WHOLE TIME THAT  YOU'RE GETTING A BUZZ ON ------ THAT HE'D RATHER HAVE HIS DAUGHTER (FROM AGE 5 YEARS OLD) IN HIS BED THAN YOU???? IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE DID WHEN SHE WAS 5 ONLY THEN THE ONLY  PROPER CHOICE FOR A MOTHER TO MAKE IS TO LEAVE. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU BROUGHT A CHILD INTO THE MARRIAGE, WHEN SHE WAS 2  ------ YOU'VE NOW ADMITTED THAT YOU'VE BEEN WITH HIM FOR ONLY 15 YEARS ----- SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR REASONING IS THAT THE SEXUAL ABUSE THAT YOU KNOW HAPPENED  WAS HIS STEP DAUGHTER SO YOU THINK THAT THE KIDS YOU HAVE WITH HIM ARE SAFE. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT A MAN WHO ABUSES CHILDREN DOES SO FROM A POSITION OF OPPORTUNITY, NOT BECAUSE THE CHILDREN ARE OF NO BLOOD RELATION.  IN OTHER WORDS, THIS ANIMAL IS TESTING YOU TO SEE IF YOU ARE ALRIGHT WITH HIS ACTIONS, BE IT A STEP DAUGHTER OR HIS OWN CHILDREN.

I'M A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC AND HAVE NOT USED SINCE 1999. BUT IN ALL MY YEARS IT NEVER DAWNED ON ME LUST AFTER CHILDREN. SO IN A SENSE, YOU ARE RIGHT THAT THIS IS NOT THAT HE IS DRINKING THAT HE THINKS OF SEXUALLY GETTING WITH A FIVE YEAR OLD, HE DOES THIS BECAUSE HE'S A SEXUAL PREDATOR.   YOU ARE MISSING THE FACT THAT HE IS CAPABLE OF LUSTING OVER CHILDREN - PERIOD..  THAT WHEN YOU AND HE ARE IN BED, HE'S THINKING ----- AT LEAST ---- ABOUT HIS STEP DAUGHTER --- AND QUITE POSSIBLY ABOUT HIS OWN BABIES.

YOU ARE MISSING THAT BY HIM DRINKING WITH YOU AND TALKING ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH A MINOR HE IS GROOMING YOU TO DO NOTHING. HE IS PLYING YOU WITH ALCOHOL AND TALKING ABOUT HIS LUSTFUL THOUGHTS ABOUT SEXUALLY MOLESTING CHILDREN.  HE'S NOT TELLING YOU HE'S LUSTING ABOUT HIS OWN CHILDREN,, I'M SURE HE WOULDN'T GIVE YOU THE HEADS UP ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT MAY BE TABOO FOR YOU. ONE THING HE DOES KNOW THAT IT IS NOT TABOO FOR HIM TO TALK ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH YOUR MINOR DAUGHTER, HIS STEP DAUGHTER, WHEN SHE WAS FIVE, WHEN SHE WAS TWELVE AND NOW THAT SHE'S SEVENTEEN.

JUST BECAUSE HE'S TALKING ABOUT RAPING YOUR SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD DOES NOT MEAN THAT HE DOESN'T THINK ABOUT RAPING SMALL CHILDREN, OR HIS OWN SMALL CHILDREN.

HE KNOWS BY YOUR REACTION THAT YOU WILL DO NOTHING. YOUR ELDEST DAUGHTER, WHOM YOU BROUGHT INTO THIS RELATIONSHIP KNOWS THAT YOU'VE DONE NOTHING. YOUR CHILDREN WILL KNOW AT LEAST AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER, THAT YOU ALLOWED YOUR HUSBAND TO ABUSE HIS STEP DAUGHTER AND YOU DID NOTHING . AND THAT'S IF YOUR CHILDREN WITH HIM ARE NOT ABUSED BY HIM. BUT THEY MAY BE. AND THEY MAY SAY NOTHING, BECAUSE AS YOU'VE ADMITTED YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO SAY "YOU HAVE NO POWER " IN OTHER WORDS, I'M INCAPABLE OF DEALING WITH THIS THE RIGHT WAY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE ALCOHOL IS CONFUSING YOU, OR IF YOU ARE JUST AS CONFUSED WITHOUT ALCOHOL, WHAT IM SAYING IS THAT WHILE YOU THINK YOU ARE HAVING A "FEW DRINKS WITH YOUR MAN IN BED" WHAT HE IS DOING IS THINKING ABOUT MOLESTING CHILDREN. WHETHER YOU ARE LAYING WITH YOUR MAN, OR HAVING SEX WITH YOUR MAN, HE HAS TOLD YOU THAT WHAT HE REALLY WANTS IS TO RAPE A SMALL CHILD, A TWELVE YEAR OLD AND A SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD. HE LIKEY HAS LONG SINCE STOPPED THINKING ABOUT YOU WHILE HAVING SEX. THE REALITY IS THAT PREDATORS GROOM WOMEN WHO HAVE CHILDREN BROUGHT INTO THE RELATINSHIP TO ABUSE THEM, AND THESE TYPES OF SICKO'S ARE CERTAINLY NOT ABOVE ABUSING THEIR OWN.

THE WOMEN THAT COMMENTED ON YOUR POST KNOWS THIS FIRST HAND. YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN CLEAR WARNING THAT WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS ENABLING A "DRUNK " (YOUR WORDS) SEX OFFENDER AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU ARE OFFERING YOURSELF AS A BODY FOR HIM TO FANTASIZE ABOUT ---

HAVING SEX WITH YOUNG CHILDREN.

IN YOUR WORDS YOU SAY YOU ARE CONFUSED.  AND IT APPEARS THAT YOU ARE VERY CONFUSED SINCE  YOU HAVE IN ESSENCE MADE EXCUSES SO YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT HAVING DRINKS WITH A MAN THAT TELLS YOU STRAIGHT UP ----- HE WOULD PREFER  LAYING WITH A CHILD RATHER THAN YOU.

IF MY MAN TALKED ABOUT HAVING ANOTHER WOMEN WHILE HE WAS IN BED WITH ME, I WOULD NOT BE CONFUSED. I WOULD WALK AWAY KNOWING THAT HE WAS TELLING ME HE WOULD PREFER ANOTHER WOMAN OR OTHER WOMEN.

BUT THE FATHER OF YOUR CHILDREN, AND ANOTHER MAN'S CHILD ---- IS TELLING YOU POINT BLANK, STRAIGHT UP , THAT HE'D RATHER BE WITH KIDS THAN YOU.       ------=-               ARE YOU CONFUSED ABOUT THAT?




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The police should be called with this happening in your home. By you. or by anyone that knows this is going on. You say you are "confused and powerless" = Alcohol will do that to a person. I suggest that you stop drinking because i think that it is confusing you and making your responsibilities unclear to yourself. Your children are too young to know what the responsibilities are of a parent. Your 17 year old will soon know, but your other children are probably younger and it will take them more time to be clear with you, but someday they will question you, why you were confused and why you were drinking with a drunk that abused children sexually, and then asked to abuse them again, when they became young adults. (disgusting). . There is much help here on Medhelp in the Addictions Forums, and Alcoholic Forums to help you and give you advice how to stop drinking yourself so that you are no longer confused. Imagine what that would look like,, not being confused and not being powerless. It would be empowering. It would empower your 17 year old to know she's been heard, and what she went through, was not on deaf ears.

STOP DRINKING THE KOOLAID IT'S DEADLY TO YOUR INTEGRITY AS A MOTHER
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Your post is 'WHAT SHOULD I DO" and i think that across the board you've been told to separate from the man that SEXUALLY ABUSES CHILDREN.

I have a question for you. What will you do? Will you take the advice, or will you do nothing?
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My mother decided that she was powerless and , as children do, we all grew up fast, and it was her biggest regret that she didn't perform and remove her kids from harm. My father was a madman, my mother was ineffective. To us kids, it meant we had two parents that in essence abused us , by not keeping us safe.  My mother lived and died with the worst regret a person can have, to not stand up for their kids. You're at ground zero, and you can change this. Do nothing, and you stand a chance of having your own kids, and their future families put in jeopardy. He's not worth it.
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Thanks
You're welcome Tratrac, we're here for you for the long run you know.

Leaving is not easy, that i know. I had to do it.

One thing that raises HUGE CONCERNS WITH YOUR POST>

You mentioned  this "We  had few drinks and where  together in bed and he ask me can i have your daughter ? Because he asked me that before  like 5 years ago when he was drunk and he askes again"

So your husband drinks to get drunk. He thinks about sexually abusing your daughter when he drinks. HE HAS ABUSED AT LEAST ONE OF YOUR CHILDREN BY HER OWN ADMISSION. He probably abused your child when he was drunk, while you were at work "nights" meaning that you were leaving a drunk man to abuse your children nights (not knowing at the time).

Do you still work outside the home?  You've already said , that you and he were having "a few drinks" (more than one or two). So essentially, this man when drunk talks about abusing children, and in fact has abused your children probably when drunk. And you still drink with him???

I find that pretty irresponsible. I would not drink with the man that abused my child when he was probably drunk. I don't understand why you would be drinking with a "drunk" who abuses your children. I don't understand why you can't see that, as a mother, you maybe enabling him to continue to abuse your children by drinking with him. I believe that on top of having clear problems with boundaries, that he has a drinking problem. Any man that loses his inhibitions enough to talk about abusing his children, or your children, or ANY CHILDREN AND IS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE DRINKING IS BEING ENABLED. It sounds like you are enabling your partner to continue to abuse your children.  

So i have to ask you, Do you have a drinking problem yourself?
You are enabling him to possibly make good on his wish and SEXUALLY ABUSE YOUR CHILDREN.  I'm at a loss as to why you allow him to drink at all? Why not tell him that he has to quit drinking, because he HAS SEXUALLY ABUSED YOUR DAUGHTER AT LEAST, and probably when drunk, but what you DO KNOW FOR SURE< is that he WANT TO ABUSE YOUR DAUGHTER WHEN HE DRINKS.

This is not a man that can be trusted around children when he drinks, so why do you allow him to drink and why do you drink with him?

This is why i think you might have a drinking problem.

Your children will blame you for allowing their father to abuse them. They might not blame you while living in your home, but when they finally get out into the world, and talk about this, you will  be in the same boat as their father.

If they're healthy when they get older, they will cut out SEXUAL ABUSERS AND ANYONE THAT ENABLES THE DRINKING OR THE SEXUAL ABUSE.
How important is it that you know your children when they are adults?
Or would you be satisfied, to spend your nights having a few drinks with your husband instead?
Is your daughter, the one he abused that 17 now (thank god she's just about an adult and is closer to getting help for herself because you didn't get her any help right?)  but, is this girl his own daughter, or did you have a daughter that you brought into this relationship. He asked you when he was drunk, "can i abuse your daughter" not our daughter. Is this a case of a step daughter being preyed upon at the age of 5 by a step father? Your daughter trusted you that you would not put her in a position with a stranger to abuse her. But you married him. And when you found out, you've done nothing. Why?

No matter what the case, you are NOT powerless, you have all the help you could ever want to get help for this situation, both so that your 17 year old knows that you NOW GET IT. You now know how her trust was broken, and you now are letting her know in no uncertain terms that you support HER for a change. and not this drunken excuse of a man.

I got clean and sober 20 years ago, and i had terrible addictions, but not once did i ever consider abusing a child sexually, and i am ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT HAD I, MY THEN HUSBAND ( NOW LATE HUSBAND) NO MATTER HOW MUCH HE LOVED ME, AND HE WAS MY SON'S STEP FATHER, HE WOULD HAVE DONE ABSOLUTELY EVERY SINGLE THING WITHIN HIS POWER TO KEEP ME AWAY FROM HIS STEP CHILD WITH HIS LAST BREATH.

This is why my son loved him. My son's step father, EARNED HIS TRUST, HE DIDN'T PREY UPON IT.  OH MY . YOU DO NEED HELP WITH THIS. THIS IS NO LITTLE MATTER.
SO YOUR HUSBAND ABUSED YOUR LITTLE GIRL AND NOW HE DRINKS WITH YOU IN BED, AND ASKS YOU IF HE CAN ABUSE YOUR DAUGHTER AGAIN, NOW THAT SHE'S  SEVENTEEN???? OH MY. THIS IS SERIOUS. HOW CAN YOU BE WITH A MAN LIKE THIS. ??
No, and he not a drinker i will said but only that time when he drank too much(over is limit) he is not a drinker  at all and i don't  have drinking  problem either
3060903 tn?1398565123
At last consider stepping up and being the "HERO". in this equation.
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** A HEALTHY male role model for your kids and yourself.
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Women are NOT powerless. There are many support systems for mothers and children. It is your job as a parent to teach your children that women are NOT powerless.   You can't afford to play possum. Your daughter knows that you know that she was abused. You have children in the house. How do you think that she's going to view you, if when you did find out about the abuse you did nothing? that you chose instead to say and be "powerless" and ineffective as a parent? Is he worth that to you? Are you willing to be known to your children as the mother who did nothing upon finding out that their dad abused at least one child, and did nothing? You deserve more from your relationship with your children, and you deserve more from a man. You can provide a healthy example of a father to your kids, but first you have to do whatever it takes to leave. If he's working, the courts will award you financial support. In order to keep all your children safe, you need to fully address this issue with a child psychologist and have all your children in therapy to find out if he's abused any of your other children. This will be hard on everyone, but doing nothing I believe will be much harder in the long run. If you deal with head on, and find closure for yourself and your children, you have a chance to move on and find a male role model for your kids. I think you need to talk to a therapist immediately and find a way to change your opinion of yourself, that you are "powerless" or that a man has made you feel like you are "powerless". It could not be further from the truth.
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I agree, you are going to have to find the backbone to get your daughter and the other kids and you, out of there. He will not change his desire to have sex with children. Also, his attempt to draw you into it is really appalling. He is trying to share the blame, in a way -- trying to get you to give him permission so he does not have to take the responsibility for his acts. Don't let him blame you or pretend to himself that it's all right with you; your indignant anger is the only thing protecting your children, until you get out physically.
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Thanks my dear
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If you think he did this in your heart of hearts, stopped or not stopped, how could you stay with him?  A man who sexually touches a little girl?  People don't just get over that either.  Every child he is around is in danger.  Future grandchildren, etc.  And he certainly damaged your daughter.  I would end things myself if I was sure this happened.  I would ALWAYS side with my kids even if just on principle.  
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how'd you find out?
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We  had few drinks and where  together in bed and he ask me can i have your daughter ? Because he asked me that before  like 5 years ago when he was drunk and he askes again i started questioning  my self when i confront  him he denied  but to be sure i when to asked my daughter  what happened  if i'm at work (i work night) she said nothing then went further  did dad ever touched you in appropriate  way that it when she told  me yeah when i was little he did touched  me several times  but he stopped  i that time i had only 1 child but now i have 4 kids with him  when to check her she still a virgin.
I’m was with a man who has probably been with his adoptive girl since she moved in. She acts like a prostitute now, at only 15, she uses her body to get everything and she’s very ruined and now I think it was him the entire time. He waited for her to grow boobs to show his outward “liking” of her but I think he’s been messing with her for years. I don’t think a man will ask permission unless he wants you looking the other way but believe me, THAT IS NOT ALL THAT HAS HAPPENED. It’s easy to get charmed by these men and overlook things but now, like me, you must protect your children like in the wild because these men are BEASTS capable of raping your baby under your nose. She, like this adopted girl of my boyfriend, might have grown to love his SICK attention. This girl is jealous of me and SHE LIES FOR HIM, now. She sneaks over to HIM... Your daughter could be doing this because she’s been in it for so long, too. You need to get so far away. Log things in your phone, take and send pictures of emails and record him talking about it. In the wild, males kill the babies but the mothers care for offspring - human men will trash a young girl for his own sick desires, being no different than a wild animal. I’m watching this happen and came upon it too late. I’m not her mother but I wish I could have been. She treats me like the “other woman,” being sick and depraved like he taught her. It took a while to see this but you must open your eyes because statistics say your babies will abuse if they’ve been abused then it comes out in THEIR kids with the same abuse spanning and ruining countless lives. He can’t love you like you deserve if he’s lusting over your child... Most men are this horrible. I met many growing up. All of my mom’s boyfriends did sh** to me. ALL. Because she refused to protect me. You’ll find someone better IF you stand up proud and become Mama Bear. Good luck and God Bless
Thank you so much for opening up here about the realities of sexual abuse. I know that it helps to talk opening and getting if off your chest, as well as HELPING CHILDREN AND MOTHER'S TO PUT AN END TO THE CONSEQUENCE OF ENABLING THE CONSISTENTLY HORRID THOUGHTS OF A SEXUALLY ABUSIVE MAN ------ WHO OPENLY ADMITS ------ THAT HE HAS ALWAYS THOUGHT SEXUALLY OF HIS DAUGHTER  SINCE SHE WAS A BABY UNTIL PRESENT. IT MUST HURT YOU SO MUCH TO HEAR THIS IS GOING ON AND POSSIBLY NOT MAKING ANY DIFFERENCE TO THESE 4 KIDS.  YOU'RE IN MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. .  
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