Got HPV Vaccine; What Can I Do Now Without Getting Sick?

[curiousanon]

Hi Everyone,

I just got the Chinese HPV Vaccine.  I think it is equivalent to Gardasil-9.

1.  What can I do now, with regular women or CSW?

2.  With any woman, I like lots of deep kissing, then oral sex (especially 69), then sex with a condom.

I would much prefer nothing with a condom, but that is not possible with CSW's.

3.  My guess would be exposure from kissing, such as herpes or HPV.

Then, if I do cunnilingus (with no barrier), it would be HPV risk.  Gardasil-9 protects against many, but not all.

4.  Any other insight?

From the studies I read, most CSW's at commercial brothels have about 10 clients a day, every day.  Since they mandate condom use in the men, HPV is the only real thing to worry about.

I wonder how much Gardasil-9, etc. helps prevent against all disease, so people can enjoy kissing, 69, etc. without problems.

[curiousanon]

Thanks, guys.

1.  Yes, it sounds like kissing is a low risk activity.  But, since CSW see ten workers a day, then there is still some risk of regular oral herpes, etc.

2.  I would accept receiving a protected BJ, and having regular vaginal sex with a condom.  But, even with the best HPV vaccines, there is some risk of other strains.

Many sexually active people just accept this risk.  I pride myself on never getting an STD.

3.  As for cunnilingus with no protection, it sounds like syphillis risk still.

4.  Any way to actually enjoy a good looking woman?

I guess traditional dating is the only way, as cumbersome as it is.

[auntiejessi]

1 - Yes, there is always a risk of oral herpes, and that has nothing to do with them being sex workers. It's estimated that about half the adult population has oral hsv1. You might already have it, too. If you do, you can't get it again. Most people who have it never get symptoms.

2 - Yes, this is true. The vaccine protects against the most common strains, not all strains.

3 - Yes, this is true.

4 - There is no such thing as 100% safe sex. This is true no matter who your partners are. If you are having sex outside of a monogamous relationship with someone who's STD status you know, there is a risk.

[auntiejessi]

Condoms offer significant protection, but not total, against herpes and syphilis. Much like HPV, they are spread by direct skin to skin contact, and the condom doesn't offer full coverage.

Even with the HPV vaccine, you are still at risk for gonorrhea, chlamydia, trich, mycoplasma genitalium, HIV, hepatitis B (if you aren't vaccinated), NGU, herpes and syphilis.

If you practice cunnilingus without a barrier, you can get syphilis orally. You could get oral gonorrhea and chlamydia, though your chances of that are less likely.

If your partner performs unprotected oral sex on you, you could get syphilis, genital herpes type 1, gonorrhea, chlamydia and NGU.

It's a big risk with any partner whose status you don't know. It's a huge risk with someone who has 10 partners a day.

[Paxiled]

Sex without a condom exposes you to all manner of potential problems, including HIV.  The only way you're going to do that is to have a monogamous relationship with someone who uses birth control of another kind, after you're both tested for everything and take it on faith neither of you is cheating.  As for sex workers, they really have a lot less control than you imagine.  They are often required to do whatever the customer wants if the payment is high enough, including not using a condom.  You can't trust that they never do this.  

[Sillymistake87]

You answered your own question. It protections against some strains but not all. It gives you that extra protection. Think of a bullet proof vest. If you get shot in the chest it will stop the bullet. But your arms and legs are wide open.

Getting a vaccine is not a way to stop practising safe sex or to become lax over your or their health.