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Male to Male penis rubbing (frottage) and mutual masturbation. Should I get tested?
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I foolishly went for a massage that turned into quite a bit more. There was 5 mins or so of penis to penis rubbing, just the shaft and fairly light touching - the penis heads did not come into contact. This was followed by mutual masturbation and he also externally stimulated my *******, there was zero penetration. Masseuse did not finish and I didn't notice any pre-cum. I also didn't notice any visible lesions, but it was pretty dark.
3 questions, and I realize I'm probably a bit paranoid, but here goes:
1. Should I be tested for skin-to-skin STDs (Syphilis, HPV, HSV)? If so, when?
2. What is the risk of infection for these STDs from a single exposure?
3. If we assume for a second that I was infected with one or more of these, am I immediately contagious, or do I only become contagious after the so-called 'incubation period'? In other words should I avoid sexual activity for 'x' weeks until I can be tested?
Thank you
I foolishly went for a massage that turned into quite a bit more. There was 5 mins or so of penis to penis rubbing, just the shaft and fairly light touching - the penis heads did not come into contact. This was followed by mutual masturbation and he also externally stimulated my *******, there was zero penetration. Masseuse did not finish and I didn't notice any pre-cum. I also didn't notice any visible lesions, but it was pretty dark.
3 questions, and I realize I'm probably a bit paranoid, but here goes:
1. Should I be tested for skin-to-skin STDs (Syphilis, HPV, HSV)? If so, when?
2. What is the risk of infection for these STDs from a single exposure?
3. If we assume for a second that I was infected with one or more of these, am I immediately contagious, or do I only become contagious after the so-called 'incubation period'? In other words should I avoid sexual activity for 'x' weeks until I can be tested?
Thank you
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A lot of this depends on how "light" the touching and rubbing was.
There is no risk for HIV, gonorrhea, chlamydia, and NGU. Those require his fluids to enter your urethra. Without penetration (oral, vaginal, anal), that doesn't happen.
In theory, rubbing and grinding without clothing can transmit herpes, HPV and syphilis. In reality, this would take some pretty heavy grinding, as friction is needed. This is why I say that it depends on how light the rubbing was. Think of the friction achieved by having actual intercourse - that's usually the kind of friction needed.
To transmit syphilis, an actual sore needs to be present. Symptoms do not need to be present to transmit herpes or HPV.
Without knowing how much rubbing there was, it's hard to say what kind of risk level you had, but it doesn't sound like a lot.
Assuming you were infected (and again, it doesn't sound likely, but I'm going with your question #3), you probably aren't "immediately" contagious, as in within seconds, but you would be shortly after, say within a day.
There is no test for men and HPV. It can take several weeks to several months to show symptoms, and some strains never do. If you haven't been vaccinated for HPV, you should talk to your doctor about that.
You can test for herpes at 12 weeks, but if you don't have symptoms, I'd caution you about this. There is a decent chance of getting a false positive on the hsv2 IgG herpes test (the test you want), and it can take weeks, a lot of money and even more stress to figure that out. Also, a lot of countries - Canada, the UK and others in Europe - don't like doing the herpes blood test, for this reason, and it will be hard to get.
A syphilis test will be accurate at 6 weeks.
Unless you had some heavy grinding, which it doesn't sound like, I wouldn't worry.
There is no risk for HIV, gonorrhea, chlamydia, and NGU. Those require his fluids to enter your urethra. Without penetration (oral, vaginal, anal), that doesn't happen.
In theory, rubbing and grinding without clothing can transmit herpes, HPV and syphilis. In reality, this would take some pretty heavy grinding, as friction is needed. This is why I say that it depends on how light the rubbing was. Think of the friction achieved by having actual intercourse - that's usually the kind of friction needed.
To transmit syphilis, an actual sore needs to be present. Symptoms do not need to be present to transmit herpes or HPV.
Without knowing how much rubbing there was, it's hard to say what kind of risk level you had, but it doesn't sound like a lot.
Assuming you were infected (and again, it doesn't sound likely, but I'm going with your question #3), you probably aren't "immediately" contagious, as in within seconds, but you would be shortly after, say within a day.
There is no test for men and HPV. It can take several weeks to several months to show symptoms, and some strains never do. If you haven't been vaccinated for HPV, you should talk to your doctor about that.
You can test for herpes at 12 weeks, but if you don't have symptoms, I'd caution you about this. There is a decent chance of getting a false positive on the hsv2 IgG herpes test (the test you want), and it can take weeks, a lot of money and even more stress to figure that out. Also, a lot of countries - Canada, the UK and others in Europe - don't like doing the herpes blood test, for this reason, and it will be hard to get.
A syphilis test will be accurate at 6 weeks.
Unless you had some heavy grinding, which it doesn't sound like, I wouldn't worry.
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Thank you very much for the detailed response.
The touching was light. Hard to describe exactly, but there certainly wasn't a lot of friction.
I think I'll just try not worry about this.
The touching was light. Hard to describe exactly, but there certainly wasn't a lot of friction.
I think I'll just try not worry about this.
I think that's reasonable. It doesn't sound like you have anything to worry about. :)
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Herpes spreads by oral, vaginal and anal sex.
Herpes sores blister, then burst, scab and heal.
STIs are the most common cause of genital sores.
Millions of people are diagnosed with STDs in the U.S. each year.
STDs can't be transmitted by casual contact, like hugging or touching.
Syphilis is an STD that is transmitted by oral, genital and anal sex.
