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Lap dance worries
Hello,
I think strip clubs are just not a place I should be going to because they stimulate so much anxiety. I'm worried again after going to a strip club last night while on vacation in quebec. I went to a strip club with a friend with no intention to get a dance. Finally we paid for a dance where the girls perform vaginal oral sex on each other. My first worry is that at some point one of the girls put her breasts in my face and I'm worried if there happened to be some bodily fluids (saliva, vaginal, sperm, etc...) on her breasts if it happened to go in one of my eyes could I get HIV or any other STD?
My second pertains to a lap dance received from another stripper where she was NOT wearing underwear and was rubbing herself directly on my jeans. I didn't touch her with my hands and wasn't aroused at all frankly, as I was so anxious. She then started licking her hands and playing with her vulva and then tried to touch my head. I stopped her because I have psoriasis of my scalp and didn't want to risk her transmitting something that way, I told her I prefer her not to touch me after touching herself, which she respected, but was still touching my clothes. I'm worried because I have a lot of mosquito bites/spider bites on my legs (from a recent trip) and wondering if her fluids could have seeped through my jeans into the healing scabs? I'm also worried about any possibility that I rubbed my eye at some point and exposed myself should my hands have been contaminated with something. I also have really dried skin and worried that if I contacted fluids, I could be at risk.
I have a really important interview this afternoon and I'm having a hard time focusing on what I need to because I'm preoccupied by these fears. I know I am cursed with a tendency to worry about this stuff, and I'm trying to tell myself that, but it's not helping because the worry has taken over....
I think strip clubs are just not a place I should be going to because they stimulate so much anxiety. I'm worried again after going to a strip club last night while on vacation in quebec. I went to a strip club with a friend with no intention to get a dance. Finally we paid for a dance where the girls perform vaginal oral sex on each other. My first worry is that at some point one of the girls put her breasts in my face and I'm worried if there happened to be some bodily fluids (saliva, vaginal, sperm, etc...) on her breasts if it happened to go in one of my eyes could I get HIV or any other STD?
My second pertains to a lap dance received from another stripper where she was NOT wearing underwear and was rubbing herself directly on my jeans. I didn't touch her with my hands and wasn't aroused at all frankly, as I was so anxious. She then started licking her hands and playing with her vulva and then tried to touch my head. I stopped her because I have psoriasis of my scalp and didn't want to risk her transmitting something that way, I told her I prefer her not to touch me after touching herself, which she respected, but was still touching my clothes. I'm worried because I have a lot of mosquito bites/spider bites on my legs (from a recent trip) and wondering if her fluids could have seeped through my jeans into the healing scabs? I'm also worried about any possibility that I rubbed my eye at some point and exposed myself should my hands have been contaminated with something. I also have really dried skin and worried that if I contacted fluids, I could be at risk.
I have a really important interview this afternoon and I'm having a hard time focusing on what I need to because I'm preoccupied by these fears. I know I am cursed with a tendency to worry about this stuff, and I'm trying to tell myself that, but it's not helping because the worry has taken over....
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Patience, patience! MedHelp standard is for a reply to new questions within 24 hours on the professional forums -- and not even that soon for follow-up questions.
The possible eye exposure makes no difference. If you think logically about it, that has to be true: sex routinely involves getting sexual secretions on the hands, in the face, etc; and people unconsciously rub their eyes all the time. Yet still few or no HIV or STD transmissions without penile-insertive sex.
Your guilt, shame, or "panic" don't change my opinion or advice. People wh are "way too obsessive" about STDs are rarely satisfied by hearing the same facts again and again. Do you really think these anxieties are going to melt away just because you are told the same things your already know, maybe for the hundredth time? I'm glad you're getting counseling; that is where the resolution of these concerns potentially lies -- but not online, either on this forum or any other website. (You might even print out this thread as a framework for discussion with your therapist: I'm pretty certain you'll find s/he agrees with me on these issues.)
In any case, that will end this thread. Good luck in working it out.
The possible eye exposure makes no difference. If you think logically about it, that has to be true: sex routinely involves getting sexual secretions on the hands, in the face, etc; and people unconsciously rub their eyes all the time. Yet still few or no HIV or STD transmissions without penile-insertive sex.
Your guilt, shame, or "panic" don't change my opinion or advice. People wh are "way too obsessive" about STDs are rarely satisfied by hearing the same facts again and again. Do you really think these anxieties are going to melt away just because you are told the same things your already know, maybe for the hundredth time? I'm glad you're getting counseling; that is where the resolution of these concerns potentially lies -- but not online, either on this forum or any other website. (You might even print out this thread as a framework for discussion with your therapist: I'm pretty certain you'll find s/he agrees with me on these issues.)
In any case, that will end this thread. Good luck in working it out.
Could you please respond to the particular question about possible transmission through my eyes?
Thanks for your reply, it is appreciated. What about the possible exposure from the eye route?
The thing is that I know the reply to these questions, but the sheer panic and fear makes me need to seek reassurance from someone objective because my mind plays tricks on me. It's like i can't control the intrusive nature of these worries. I have started seeing a therapist about this problem. Furthermore, I'm having these feelings in the absence of guilt or shame, as I'm single. I'm just way too obsessive about STDs. It's actually quite sad because I'm generally a rational and very intelligent person. Thanks for your understanding
The thing is that I know the reply to these questions, but the sheer panic and fear makes me need to seek reassurance from someone objective because my mind plays tricks on me. It's like i can't control the intrusive nature of these worries. I have started seeing a therapist about this problem. Furthermore, I'm having these feelings in the absence of guilt or shame, as I'm single. I'm just way too obsessive about STDs. It's actually quite sad because I'm generally a rational and very intelligent person. Thanks for your understanding
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
I saw these comments before replying. They make no difference.
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Welcome to the forum. However, I am concerned that you're having trouble understanding the advice you have had in previous MedHelp discussions, including last March on the STD forum. Given what you were told -- that lap dances and hand-genital contact never transmit HIV or other STDs -- It should not be necessary to ask about any single similar exposure. Our opinioins and advice are going to be the same every time, regardless of minor details of difference from one event to the next. Slight moisture through clothing carries no risk, and neither do mosquito bites or other wounds.
Just remember this from now on: Without direct genital-genital, genital-anal, or genital-oral contact, there is never a risk for any STD. Dried skin, psoriasis, mosquito bites, or healing wounds make no difference: in busy STD clinics, we simply never see infected patients whose only exposure involved the sorts of contact you are persistently worried about.
Finally, your opening comment says a lot: "I think strip clubs are just not a place I should be going to because they stimulate so much anxiety." Based on what you have been told previously on MedHelp, and now once again, such exposures should not cause the amount of anxiety they do. If you feel guilty or ashamed because you regret the sexual aspects, deal with it as you need to. But STD risk should not be generating any anxiety at all.
Plan on using condoms if future lap dances or similar events might progress to vaginal or anal sex. Otherwise don't worry about STDs; and avoid the temptation to ask about them again.
Regards-- HHH, MD
Just remember this from now on: Without direct genital-genital, genital-anal, or genital-oral contact, there is never a risk for any STD. Dried skin, psoriasis, mosquito bites, or healing wounds make no difference: in busy STD clinics, we simply never see infected patients whose only exposure involved the sorts of contact you are persistently worried about.
Finally, your opening comment says a lot: "I think strip clubs are just not a place I should be going to because they stimulate so much anxiety." Based on what you have been told previously on MedHelp, and now once again, such exposures should not cause the amount of anxiety they do. If you feel guilty or ashamed because you regret the sexual aspects, deal with it as you need to. But STD risk should not be generating any anxiety at all.
Plan on using condoms if future lap dances or similar events might progress to vaginal or anal sex. Otherwise don't worry about STDs; and avoid the temptation to ask about them again.
Regards-- HHH, MD
As an addendum I just took a shower and noticed that two of the bites on my left leg halfway between my hip and my knee above my quads are slightly bleeding. What if they were open last night when she was rubbing her vagina against that part of my pants?? I also have a similar bite that is irritated on my left index finger and i'm starting to panic about fluid getting in...
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