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Can an anti fungal drug help my thyroid?

I have hashimotos for about 8 years now. My thyroid problem happened after living in a house with blak mold and having a baby.
I saw a new dr that beleives that I should go on an elimination diet and take antfungals to remove any fungus from my body. She also said that this could be causing my thyroid issues. Could this help it? Or, should I run and not waste my money.

Please Help!!!
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I wanted to let you know I will be starting an anti fungal soon. I am waiting for liver tests to maek sure I am ok to take. Will keep you posted on how it helps!!
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Yes I have been on IV anti-yeast which helped me sooo sooo much now I am on Diflucan 1 tab for 30 days than retest and may need a longer dose on the tablets. The IV helped so much I want to go back in the hospital and get a few more bags. Took my rash away and never felt so good in 10 years... good luck Cara
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Effect of candida on the endocrine system

Once candida has overgrown, it can bind to hormones changing their ;key' shape so they are unable to fit 'lock' in their receptor. This effectively inactivates the circulating hormone, making all endocrine problems ten times worse.

What is the APICH syndrome?

Autoimmune Polyendocrinopathy Immune-dysregulation Candidosis Hypersensitivity syndrome. This syndrome was identified in the USA in the 1980s as an endocrine disorder afflicting all really difficult-to-treat candida patients. It is far more prevalent in females. (We covered the details in our Factsheet 005, but note that symptoms include ovarian, thyroid and adrenal insufficiency


http://www.candida-society.org/ncs/digestv1i3.htm


http://foodsmatter.com/candida/general/articles/pmstockdale_pers_hist.html

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I would really appreciate that Laura.Let me know if she prescribes Nystatin. Have you seen any good sites/articles that I can look at that discuss fungus/ gluten effects on hypothyroid people? If so, please let me know. Thanks!
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I am going to a new doc that helps with yeast overgrowth. I start the 15th. She will use anti fungals if I need. I will keep you posted on this.
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I'm afraid conversion is a one way street.  T4 is converted to T3 by your liver, so when you take T4 meds, T3 usually goes up, too, unless you have a conversion issue.  However, there is no way for your body to make T4 out of T3.

Do you think if you called your old doctor and explained your move and the circumstances that she might give you enough 150s to tide you over until you see your new endo?
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Hey,

What if I raise the T3? If I take an extra Cytomel, will that help the T4?
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Thanks for the info!! I have been pretty achey and irritable! I only have 2 more of the 150 Synthroid, so I am going to have to take some action! I have quite a few 175 left from before.
I see a new endo next month. I moved out to Denver last month and I know my previous endo will not raise me. She is pretty stuck on the TSH thing!
I have started to see a new doc though that deals with dessicated. Maybe I will ask her to help me out!

Thanks for the help!
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Has anyone taken prescription Nystatin pills to treat fungus/yeast in the body/intestines? If so, for how long and what were the side effects if any?
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The morning spit tests results can correlate with what you ate for supper. So you can find out what affects it the most. Gluten, sugar, greasy foods, carbs ect. Then starve it while taking what ever you need to make it go away. If you just eat green veggies and skinless roasted chicken for a few days, the test results will temporally improve - interesting to see it happen.
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In December, your FT3 was 2.85 on a range of 2.77 to 5.27.  To figure your percentile, subtract the lower end of the range from the upper limit of the range:

5.27 - 2.77 = 2.5

Next, subtract the lower limit of the range from your result:

2.85 - 2.77 = 0.08

Then divide the second result by the first result:

0.08 / 2.5 = 0.032 and multiply by 100 to get the percentile...3.2.

You can see that you were on the very bottom of the range in December.

You can follow the same steps with your current range and see that you are now at 58%.  So, your FT3 has improved A LOT.  

Don't let the numbers scare you...it's often just easier to think about them in general terms.  The recommendation for FT3 is upper half to upper third of the range.  Anything above 50% is the upper half, so you're there, but you still have quite a way to go to get to 100%, so you have some room for an increase.

So, your FT4 (40%) is a little below half, which means it could stand a little nudge up to get it to around 50%.  Your FT3 still has some room to move up.  I would increase your T4 meds very slightly (perhaps 12.5 mcg per day??? - you can do this by alternating 150/175 mcg tablets).  This should bring up both your FT3 and FT4.  Then, I'd test again in four to five weeks to see if another slight tweak might be need in either your T4 meds or your Cytomel.  It's not at all unusual for people on meds, and especially when T3 meds are involved, to have TSH suppressed to very low, or even below, range.  Of course, I'm not a doctor, and you have to find a way to convince your doctor of this or find a doctor who understands thyroid better.  With your labs and some lingering hypo symptoms, I don't think you're going to feel any better with a decrease (worse?).
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I have been feeling achey and irritable lately and was surprised that I was low on the TSH. I though for sure I would need more. But, I have also been suffering from a sinus infection and allergies. Its so frustrating! I am on 5 of Cytomel twice a day. Maybe I need more of that???
My test result from December for T3 was:
Free T3           2.85  (2.77-5.27) and the endo bumped me to twice a day.

My result now is:
Free T3    340  (230-420)  How do you tell when they did it a different way. Has it gotten better? Should I ask for a higher dose of T3?

Thanks for your help!!!
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Thanks for the info! I actually did the salivia spit in a cup test. Mine came back with strings which means a yeast overgrowth. I have no idea why I ended up with Hashimotos, but it did occur in me after a year of living in black mold and taking way too many antibiotics. I am going to try the anti fungal and low glycemic and see if it helps.
I also suffer from PCOS and I know the diet helps that. The dr I am going to try this with is very big on the desiccated thyroid which I really want to try. Anything helps, right?
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There are some fabulous tests available now, we particularly like Great Smokies' 28 day saliva test, Female Hormone Profile. The results are given in an easy-to-understand format.
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Effect of candida on the endocrine system

Once candida has overgrown, it can bind to hormones changing their ;key' shape so they are unable to fit 'lock' in their receptor. This effectively inactivates the circulating hormone, making all endocrine problems ten times worse.

What is the APICH syndrome?

Autoimmune Polyendocrinopathy Immune-dysregulation Candidosis Hypersensitivity syndrome. This syndrome was identified in the USA in the 1980s as an endocrine disorder afflicting all really difficult-to-treat candida patients. It is far more prevalent in females. (We covered the details in our Factsheet 005, but note that symptoms include ovarian, thyroid and adrenal insufficiency


http://www.candida-society.org/ncs/digestv1i3.htm


http://foodsmatter.com/candida/general/articles/pmstockdale_pers_hist.html


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I have asked doctors about the yeast issue a few times but they are so convinced it is not a true health matter.  I need to do some more diggin on this as I believe I could have a problem with this between acne and prior yeast infections I don't get them often anymore but used to all the time.   But I am wondering if it could be that from the thyroid not working properly that the body is not able to regulat the yeast??  tonights homework
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The currently accepted range for TSH, according to AACE, is 0.3-3.0, so you are borderline LOW according to that.  However, that doesn't bother me at all.  TSH is the least important of these tests.  FT4 is at the 40th percentile of the range, and the recommendation here (rule of thumb) is 50th percentile MOL.  FT3 is 58th percentile, and recommendation here is upper half to upper third of the range.  Once again those are just guidelines, and you have to find where you feel best and then make those levels your personal goal.

Your endo is only looking at TSH...she may be ordering the other tests, but she sure isn't paying a lot of attention to them.  Are you currently on Cytomel, too?  I think your labs look fine, and I would base any increase or decrease at this point on symptoms.  If you have any hypo symptoms left, then there's some room in your labs for a slight increase.  If you start have hyper symptoms, then a slight decrease is in order.  Which way do you think you're leaning?
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I got my test results from January 29th:

Free T4    1.2   (.8 - 1.8)
Free T3    340  (230-420)
TSH          0.3  (.46-4.68)

The endo told me she wants to lower my dose from 150 to 137. Says my TSH is too high.
What do you think?
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How did you find out you needed antifungals?
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I am sorry here is the range for the cortisol:

12 at 8am (4.3-22.4) ug/dL

I have heard that it should be around 20.
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No, my Synthroid was not increased. I slip into hyper easily so she decided not to.
I am seeing a brand new endo in March because I have relocated to Denver. I am excited with all the new choices of drs here.... I came from a small town.
Regarding my thyroid, I asked to try Cytomel because I am still having a lot of hypo symptoms. I am even trying to get them to look at my adrenals too. I did an 8am cortisol test and it was 12. I have other symptoms going on such as PMS difficulties, so of course I am labeled PCOS. I have done a lot of reading though and found out bad adrenals can cause that too.
I am feeling pretty achey, so I hope my results reflect that. I will post next week when I get them.
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Once you test positive for antibodies, you don't need to have them retested over and over.  If you have them, you have them for life, except if your thyroid is removed.  Once it is completely "dead", antibodies will go into remission.

Was your Synthroid increased after the 12/5 labs also?  Both FT3 and FT4 are too low.  You are undermedicated.  Is the Cytomel necessary?  Hard to say at this point with your FT4 so low.  But, you definitely need an increase in Synthroid.

It will be interesting to see your new results and if your doctor plans to increase your dose.
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Ok, I have been diagnosed with hashis over and over. Everytime I get those antibodies tested they sat the same thing "You have Hashimotos". I am on 150 Synthroid and 5 twice a day of Cytomel. Ok here are some results:

6-19-09 Thyroid Peroxidase Autoabs         351 H  (<35)
            Thyroglobulin Autotabs                 <20     (<40)
3-20-09 Anti-thyroid ABS TPO                   542     (0 to 34)
            antithyroglobulin                           <20     (0 to 40)

6-17-08 Thyroid Peroxidase TPO             50   (0-3.9)
My tests done on 12-5-09 were:

Free T3           2.85  (2.77-5.27)
Free T4           0.88  (.78-2.19)
TSH                1.78  (.46-4.68)

I was bumped up on Cytomel to twice a day at that point.
I did labs on Friday and have not received results yet.

I am sure I have hashimotos. Both of my parents suffer the same disease too.
I am asking about the ani fungal because I had a NEW doctor tell me that could be the root of my problem. The thing is though, she is expensive! I donot feel well and am so tired of the body aches and brain fog. I just wondered if anyone heard that it could all be caused from candida.

Please help, I am seeing a new endo in March so maybe he has more insight!!!!
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