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Rage attacks/severe symptoms from hypothyroid
Last year I noticed a change in my fiancé. He was having severe anxiety, was always to tired or couldn't sleep at all. Than the rage attacks started. He would become someone I didn't even know. Smashing holes in walls, breaking things, saying things he wouldn't normally say. In that time we went to many therapists and a neurologist. After 6 months we finally found his thyroid levels were at 20 something. He was put on synthroid 55mcg his levels went down to 3 than medicine was raised to 88mcg with news that his levels should go down to .5 within next few months. While being on the medicine the anxiety, rage attacks, sleeping all got increasingly better and he got back to the man I once knew and loved. Although the last month I noticed the color draining from him, anxiety kicking back up and irrational behavior starting. I called in for a blood test and his levels are up back up to 10!! even though his synthroid Medicine was raised! I'm very concerned since this affects him so negatively. Does anyone else face horrible symptoms like these?? I read a thyroid disease can even mimic schizophrenia? Should I talk to the doctor about other forms of anxiety, mood stabilizers while his levels are getting back to normal?
Thanks very much for taking time to message us. We seldom hear from medical professionals, mostly inadequately diagnosed and treated hypothyroid patients, like your experience. I am not sure you would be aware, but through our thousands of bad experiences, we have come to the conclusion that the vast majority of doctors have either no clue, or no interest in effective, clinical diagnosis and treatment of hypothyroidism, rather than their "Immaculate TSH Belief" and "Reference Range Endocrinology". All of us that post here have suffered debilitating conditions, though not as bad as yours, because of those doctors. So we try our best to make people aware of what should be done for them and how to go about trying to get tested and treated effectively. If you have a few minutes to spare, I'd like to suggest taking a look at this link to a paper on Diagnosis and Treatment of Hypothyroidism: A Patient's Perspective, which was written because of the terrible standard of care most of us have gone through, and to try and make all hypothyroid patients aware of how it can be better. We have tried to get the responsible people at the ATA and AACE to recognize what their Guidelines have done to all of us, but they refuse to seriously consider any change.
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https://tinyurl.com/y7sfp5r8
I have heard that the link does not work on an iPhone, but does with any computer browser. If there is a problem just click on my name and then send me a message.
I also understand this is an old thread, but still comes up in the searches and is worth a comment. I was likely exposed to a strong radiation source at work almost 20 years ago. It destroyed my left thyroid lobe leaving me with only a cyst there now.
At the time it happened neither me nor my docs had any thoughts to check my thyroid levels, despite having an unusual bout of fatigue, acholic stool, depression/sleep-energy-and rage. I always balk at calling thyroid bounces depression or anxiety because those are so frequently given priority in treatment and as such are only a band aid over the infected cut so to speak.
Over the next year my R lobe kicked in and worked mostly. I had a slow growing papillary thyroid carcinoma eventually drop the right sides function to abnormal levels. The symptoms became quite numerous over those intervening decades, yet missed by all. I will list the worst among them:, (because they create a vicious cycle that ruins your constitution and thereby your T4 to T3 conversion completing the final link of the vicious cycle, yet are easily dismissed-age, life changes, stress, anxiety/depression, 'a bad day'...that never ends lol)
Bradycardia, central apnea, then obstructive apnea, SIBO-after some constipation,
Acholic stools following extreme stress from illness or otherwise, Beau's lines eventually, symmetric hair loss on eyebrows after hand and foot hair loss, decreased exercise tolerance, trouble thi king and planning-confidence, some new autoimmune symptoms after prolonged SIBO with new 3 times normal Rheumatoid Factor level with random joint erosion including development of new schmorl's nodes at a chronicly painful thoracic vertebrae.
After starting synthroid I was ok for almost 6 months before the effects of its ineffective replacement profile kicked in, to include elevated reverse T3(an inhibitor of T3 effect in the body, as well as abnormally low T3 and a normally high T4. It just wasn't being converted due to body stress.
Bottom line, NDT or combo treatments are better at total thyroid replacement and can break the cycle of stressors such as leaky gut(SIBO) and autoimmune/constitutional stress inhibiting T4 to T3 conversion.
(Done on my phone, please excuse any typos etc.)
At the time it happened neither me nor my docs had any thoughts to check my thyroid levels, despite having an unusual bout of fatigue, acholic stool, depression/sleep-energy-and rage. I always balk at calling thyroid bounces depression or anxiety because those are so frequently given priority in treatment and as such are only a band aid over the infected cut so to speak.
Over the next year my R lobe kicked in and worked mostly. I had a slow growing papillary thyroid carcinoma eventually drop the right sides function to abnormal levels. The symptoms became quite numerous over those intervening decades, yet missed by all. I will list the worst among them:, (because they create a vicious cycle that ruins your constitution and thereby your T4 to T3 conversion completing the final link of the vicious cycle, yet are easily dismissed-age, life changes, stress, anxiety/depression, 'a bad day'...that never ends lol)
Bradycardia, central apnea, then obstructive apnea, SIBO-after some constipation,
Acholic stools following extreme stress from illness or otherwise, Beau's lines eventually, symmetric hair loss on eyebrows after hand and foot hair loss, decreased exercise tolerance, trouble thi king and planning-confidence, some new autoimmune symptoms after prolonged SIBO with new 3 times normal Rheumatoid Factor level with random joint erosion including development of new schmorl's nodes at a chronicly painful thoracic vertebrae.
After starting synthroid I was ok for almost 6 months before the effects of its ineffective replacement profile kicked in, to include elevated reverse T3(an inhibitor of T3 effect in the body, as well as abnormally low T3 and a normally high T4. It just wasn't being converted due to body stress.
Bottom line, NDT or combo treatments are better at total thyroid replacement and can break the cycle of stressors such as leaky gut(SIBO) and autoimmune/constitutional stress inhibiting T4 to T3 conversion.
(Done on my phone, please excuse any typos etc.)
I am experiencing something similar.
I also agree it is abusive and unacceptable. I reacted the same way to my boyfriend and I believe I may have forced him to leave me with this behariour.
I am so angry and sad all the time. I have blind rage. I don't understand. I exercise 3 times per week but my neighbours have recently told me there is a change in my behaviour.
I cry a lot too. Everyone says it is depression. But I am not depressed. I get up. I exercise. I make jokes. I eat right and don't abuse substances, but I can't sleep at night from anxiety.
I feel very alone and broken with this lack of control over my emotions. I feel like I'm going crazy and sometimes wish I would just disappear as I'm so sick of this emotional cycle.
I also agree it is abusive and unacceptable. I reacted the same way to my boyfriend and I believe I may have forced him to leave me with this behariour.
I am so angry and sad all the time. I have blind rage. I don't understand. I exercise 3 times per week but my neighbours have recently told me there is a change in my behaviour.
I cry a lot too. Everyone says it is depression. But I am not depressed. I get up. I exercise. I make jokes. I eat right and don't abuse substances, but I can't sleep at night from anxiety.
I feel very alone and broken with this lack of control over my emotions. I feel like I'm going crazy and sometimes wish I would just disappear as I'm so sick of this emotional cycle.
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You've responded to a very old thread and most of the previous participants have left the forum. It would be better if you would start your own, new thread and include your most recent lab results, along with a description of any additional symptoms, you might have. Be sure to include reference ranges with all lab results posted, since ranges vary from lab to lab and have to come from your reports.
Also, please tell us if you're on a replacement thyroid hormone medication or an anti-thyroid medication. If so, what medication(s) and dosage(s) and how long have you been on it/them?
Have you ever been tested for thyroid antibodies to determine if you have, either Hashimoto's or Graves Disease?
Anxiety and depression are major issues with thyroid conditions - either hyper or hypo, so we'll be able to help you better once we have more information.
Also, please tell us if you're on a replacement thyroid hormone medication or an anti-thyroid medication. If so, what medication(s) and dosage(s) and how long have you been on it/them?
Have you ever been tested for thyroid antibodies to determine if you have, either Hashimoto's or Graves Disease?
Anxiety and depression are major issues with thyroid conditions - either hyper or hypo, so we'll be able to help you better once we have more information.
Hi - I googled the symptoms and this thread is what I found.
I had three nodules discovered in my thyroid in the fall of 2017. Did a nuclear scan and biopsy, as one was cold. The biopsy came back clean. But I am still having memory problems and emotional swings. My blood work was only slightly off but my dr. always says not to be a hypochondriac. It makes me feel crazy. He sent me to a social worker instead of a therapist because it's covered by the government, where a therapist is not.
I feel unstable and aggitated all the time. I haven't had bloodwork done in a while. The numbers of the TSH are only slightly out of rage, low. 0.2
Does anyone else feel nuts?
I had three nodules discovered in my thyroid in the fall of 2017. Did a nuclear scan and biopsy, as one was cold. The biopsy came back clean. But I am still having memory problems and emotional swings. My blood work was only slightly off but my dr. always says not to be a hypochondriac. It makes me feel crazy. He sent me to a social worker instead of a therapist because it's covered by the government, where a therapist is not.
I feel unstable and aggitated all the time. I haven't had bloodwork done in a while. The numbers of the TSH are only slightly out of rage, low. 0.2
Does anyone else feel nuts?
It's not unusual for old threads to turn up on a search, but it's still best to start your own thread so your situation gets the attention it deserves.
Is TSH the only thyroid test that was done? What about Free T4 and Free T3? Those are the actual thyroid hormones and are much more important than TSH, which is a pituitary hormone, but I know Canada has certain guidelines that doctors must abide by.
With a TSH of 0.2, we'd expect your actual thyroid hormones to be high, which indicates hyperthyroidism. It's not unusual to have mood/emotional swings when one is hyper.
Did your doctor do any antibody tests to determine whether or not you Hashimoto's or Graves Disease? Those are both autoimmune thyroid conditions that, eventually, lead to the destruction of the thyroid.
Although Hashimoto's is, typically, associated with hypothyroidism, it's not unusual to have periods of hyper in the beginning stages, alternating with hypo or normal, ending with permanent hypo. Graves Disease is always associated with hyperthyroidism.
I'm baffled as to why your doctor would send you to a social worker as opposed to treating your thyroid.
Is TSH the only thyroid test that was done? What about Free T4 and Free T3? Those are the actual thyroid hormones and are much more important than TSH, which is a pituitary hormone, but I know Canada has certain guidelines that doctors must abide by.
With a TSH of 0.2, we'd expect your actual thyroid hormones to be high, which indicates hyperthyroidism. It's not unusual to have mood/emotional swings when one is hyper.
Did your doctor do any antibody tests to determine whether or not you Hashimoto's or Graves Disease? Those are both autoimmune thyroid conditions that, eventually, lead to the destruction of the thyroid.
Although Hashimoto's is, typically, associated with hypothyroidism, it's not unusual to have periods of hyper in the beginning stages, alternating with hypo or normal, ending with permanent hypo. Graves Disease is always associated with hyperthyroidism.
I'm baffled as to why your doctor would send you to a social worker as opposed to treating your thyroid.
We might be able to provide some insight into your issues if you will post your thyroid related test results and reference ranges shown on the lab report. Also, if tested for Vitamin D, B12 and ferritin, please post those as well. What other symptoms do you have?
I realize this is an old thread, but this was the first search result on thyroid anger I could find so I'm answering for other people who may be wondering about this issue. I have hypothyroid, and normally I'm pretty relaxed and laid back, but if anything affects my thyroid hormone levels I get hard to control urges to rage at nothing. I missed a green light. Rage. My favorite cereal is out, rage. My nose itches, rage. This happens when I miss pills, and particularly when my dosage goes up. My first dosage when I started taking meds for it was 50mg, and even that small of a dose made me go through a few relationships (because I would start taking it, rage, break up with my partner, give up taking it, eventually find another relationship, try to get my health on track, repeat). I was relieved to know it was my thyroid pills and not me going literally bi polar. I still have trouble with it whenever meds change. Currently up to 125mg, and going through the same trouble, but knowing is really half the battle. Knowing that my pills are really the source of my rage helps me to hold it back instead of going off on whatever has me currently angry, granted I still want to grit my teeth till they break. You never really get used to the rage.
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If you are on levothyroxine then I suggest you to switch over to natural dessicated thyroid NDT as levothyroxine may not always normaiize thyroid hormone levels especially the T3 while NDT takes cares of both T4 T3 and a natural solution. PM me if you find it difficult to get NDT.
I have Lyme disease and Co-infections especially bartonella. I have episodes like your husband's. They've gotten fewer and far between with treatment. It's still happens once or twice a month. I feel your pain. I also suspect something with my thyroid as I have an enlarged one it seems.
I need to vent a little because there is no one I can talk to about what my husband and I are going through. We met 7 years ago. He is an amazing man whom I love dearly. Thoughtful, loving, attentive, great provider. My soulmate. We got married almost 5 years ago. About 4 years ago he started to change. Along with all the most common symptoms of thyroid disease he started having a short temper. About 3 years ago he finally went to the doctor and was found to have hypothyroidism. The doctor told him his body attacked his thyroid (is that Hashimotos?). They started him on the lowest dose of Synthroid. He hates going to the doctor so it took 2 years of me bugging him to go get bloodwork done to get his Synthroid up to 112 mcg. I can tell he still feels like crap and his anger towards me continues. Finally that doctor refused to fill his prescription until he was seen. He became enraged in the waiting room of that doctor because he felt he waited too long and fired the doctor. Luckily he found a new doctor quickly who he seems to click with. His TSH at that doctor was 7.5 . The doctor raised him to 125mcg. (His TSH at 100mcg was 8.) The anger towards me continues to escalate. I can't do anything right . It is almost a daily occurance where I do, don't do, or "look at him wrong" that will send him into a screaming rage. I feel like I'm walking on eggshells all the time. Yesterday he was off work for a snow day. I thought we were having a "good day". He was reaching into the freezer and the crack of his butt was showing. I playfully tickled it. He went into a massive rage, spun around and threw whatever frozen food was in his hand at my face, breaking my nose. I ended up knocked to the ground in a puddle of blood crying hysterically. I am shocked, confused,in pain, and am in disbelief that he could fly off the handle so much to hurt me this bad. He immediately felt sorry at what he had done and offered to take me to the hospital but I refused. I was afraid they would arrest him for domestic violence. I am still in disbelief almost 24 hours later. I know that these rages he gets are from his under treated thyroid disease. He is almost a month late in getting his bloodwork done from this new doctor. I can tell the doctor from my personal experience that the dose is not anywhere close to the right dose. Sorry I just had to vent. I'm just trying to decide what I need to do...
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Linda! I'm so sorry this happened to you, but this is abuse. I have thyroid issues as well and if I ever became violent towards ANYONE, especially my family, I would hope that someone would call the police and report it. Your husband needs help beyond the thyroid medication. There may be an underlying mental health issue contributing to this. I fear for your safety. Please, please do something. Here is a website for help, the number is on the top: http://www.thehotline.org
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Wow, I am reading this and I am in tears. I have Graves disease, when I was first Diagnosed 15 Years ago, I was 98% over. I am usually about 150 in weight, at that time, I was 112 pounds.. I have found that in the last 5 years, if I am overwhelmed by too much, I just get these attacks, where I feel like I just cannot handle anything. I want to pull my hair out, and I cannot control it. My love of my life/husband after 20 years up and left me while I was away visiting family... It has been about a year now, and I still have the spouts every once in a while. It is very nice to hear that I am not a crazy person that should lock herself up. Now I don't break anything, but I sure want to. My thyroid has been level for years though. so I guess I am bit confused on what else I can do. I did take Zoloft for quite some time, which really really helped, but I started blacking out after 2 years of taking it, on just one glass of wine. I would wake up the next day and not remember going to bed. Anyway, I just want to thank everyone for sharing their story with all of us. When you feel these rage's coming on, you feel like the only person on the earth, and since my husband left me because of it, I guess I just feel lost. Thanks for sharing. My family always pokes fun of me regarding my emotions for years, but as they have been more educated on my disease, they have become more empathetic, so I am thankful for that, but sometimes just feel frustrated that I am different, and cannot take on a lot at one time. I do fine, until I have more than 3-4 things on my plate, then If something goes wrong, I just wig out. I just feel like it is a ten, when most people would probably think in their minds it is is 2 or 3. Just crazy that others feel this way. You know my endocrinologist has never even talked to me about my emotions really. I think it is sad. Someone needs to tell people they are not alone in this nightmare.
Something very similar has just happened to my fiancé two nights ago. He becomes someone different, he jumps on top of me and says he will hurt me. He apologizes after and says he has no idea why he says those things or what is happening to him to make him say things like that. He loses control. Honestly it scares me, I've told him he needs help, so as I am typing this, he is actually at the hospital speaking with Crisis. They did blood and urine tests, it came back saying his thyroid is off. I am hoping and praying thyroid medication will help him get back to being the man I fell in love with. I don't want to be scared to come home anymore because of his raging outbursts.
Wow, what a wonderful person u have Karletta. My family just chose to desert me, it hurt me so deeply. Took me a while but i'm slowly gettng over it. In addition to the anger, I think i had to deal with the resentment that i felt at their abandoning me in my time of need n vulnerability.
Wow, what a wonderful person u have Karletta. My family just chose to desert me, it hurt me so deeply. Took me a while but i'm slowly gettng over it. In addition to the anger, I think i had to deal with the resentment that i felt at their abandoning me in my time of need n vulnerability.
oh, forgot to mention,... i do drink infusions though.... but not really with the purpose of calming my rage... it occured to me that maybe might help.
This one is my favorite: "My Time" it's from a german company Teekanne. It has rooibos, honeybush, lemon balm, hop, cinnamon and cardamom...
You can probably prepare him one of this herbal infusions... attention, no black tea or green tea, that will make him have a bit of palpitations due to the caffeeine (or whatever those have) ... and make him feel anxious....
This one is my favorite: "My Time" it's from a german company Teekanne. It has rooibos, honeybush, lemon balm, hop, cinnamon and cardamom...
You can probably prepare him one of this herbal infusions... attention, no black tea or green tea, that will make him have a bit of palpitations due to the caffeeine (or whatever those have) ... and make him feel anxious....
Yes i still have those attacks but they are less severe (or less angry) cause now i understand the underlying cause and i have learned from my husband that pride is the last thing and cant help me.
No meds. I don't do drugs. There is no such thing as the magic-drug that will calm you down... in fact, those psychotropic drugs will make it worse in long run... so thanks but no thanks...
I went to this workshop: http://www.kimslattery.com/workshops.aspx?ID=13
Which is based on this: http://www.louisehay.com/
And you might think this is a flower power hippie stuff.. but is not...!! I don't know how to explain it, I would be the first person like "oh c'mon that's ********" .... but it was not! and Im very glad i went. it's an eye opener.
I do a lot of sports, maybe that has helped me, but that's something i have done all my life.
People say that you should do Yoga, but i hate yoga (cause i lived in India like 4 years and well, long story) ... i know i should try as well...
You can't be sure of anything until you give a try... the trick is really to get yourself to try (like when i went to that workshop)
But you can't push your fiance to do this or that... u need to be careful on that...
Have you considered postponing your wedding? In m opinion maybe you should... we were going to, but we were 3 months before the wedding and we live in europe, so many guests had purchased their over 1000€ tickets already... So we made investigations and stuff, basically we didn't care much about the local or european guests, but those flying over the atlantic were really a bunch with no chance to change tickets...
But we were really considering cancelling it, it was my idea to cancel then my decision to keep going... you actually need a LOT of peace...
mmm... well thinking twice, in reality to be super honest here, the wedding was the least of my worries, that's why we continued, the least of anything... cause i felt so bad that i couldn't give a damn at some point for my wedding.... and it worked fine!!
If you are a bridezilla (like me in the beggining at some of my worse thyroid attacks) like: YOU HAVENT HELPED IN ANYTHING!!! uh uh... wrong way... that's gonna make it worse
So consider postponing.... health is more important, believe me... and you are in this together... if he is sick you are sick, cause you become one with marriage... and you don't want that this ruins that day and the rest of your lives cause is the greatest thing ever... resentments are not good foundation for marriage
Don't go to him and say: i think we should postpone the wedding... BIG NO
Instead always communicate in a positive way, for example "do you think it might help you feel better if we push our weeding some months ahead? I don't mind, i care about you" <- or whatever similar
you need to say it with love, not as a threat. there i cannot advise you, you know your man. But he needs to understand that whatever you do, is not against him (believe me, that's one thing i got all the time, the paranoia that people are doing things against me)
Oh, he needs to be off work, that helped me A LOT...
But you know, he also needs to do a lot of initial thinking.. and i cannot help you there cause i did it on my own...
cause, if you tell him maybe he will get pissed... have you tried like " i know you feel bad and i support whatever you want to do next... what is what you want to do next... how can i help you to feel better... " ... then you can start like "maybe WE could do this or that or whatever, what do you think?"... don't impose yourself, at least I know that helped me a lot...
Cause one thing i did all the time was fighting back, and you can't just stop... then everyone is your enemy, and you take every action from whomever (yes fiances included) as against you... is horrible...
Takes a lot, i think to swallow that human-pride, maybe my husband should talk to you, sometimes when he really couldn't handle me, like the worst of the worst he would just leave, not like abandoning me but like "you need your time, i'll come back in a while" .... then some reasoning would kick on me, and he is sooooo generous, so forgiving, sooo no-selfish, seriously that made me feel like an idiot everytime i had my rage attacks...
I've been so desperate, like in a hollywood movie, u n b e l i e v a b l e ... like being in the middle of a rage attack, get a panic attack at the same time, dropping whatever i was using to destroy whatever else i was destroying and getting on my knees to start crying like a baby.... oh gosh!!! you cannot imagine, feels HORRIBLE...
Now, my husband could have chosen to shout back to me, get pissed in the middle of my attack and who-knows-whatever else... but instead he chose to kind of look at me (maybe he was all shocked) but he wouldn't say a word, that's when the calming and crying comes...
I have to say, he had to put a lot from his side on this, i feel immensely blessed...
Ah, and there is one more thing, this is not going to disappear from one day to other... :(
That's why you need to help him start removing one by one the different sources of stress or irritability.... My husband has asked me if i would like to quit my job "we will manage just with my salary, dont worry"....
I don't know what to say, if you are certain of the lovely man he was and that this is only about the disease, then pass the storm with him, and protect him.... if it's something else, then maybe is good time to separate... ask your heart and stick with that :)
Love to you both, if you fix it in your mind, you will succeed :) ... strenght!!
ps . i am NOT a flowerpower hippie!! EHHH just to be clear, incredible for me to have all this pink and love speech, but i feel proud of myself that im able to do it now... :D oh, i want to cry!
ps. I did a lot of work on my own as well but that came until i accepted i was sick and how it affected my life (that was easy though)
No meds. I don't do drugs. There is no such thing as the magic-drug that will calm you down... in fact, those psychotropic drugs will make it worse in long run... so thanks but no thanks...
I went to this workshop: http://www.kimslattery.com/workshops.aspx?ID=13
Which is based on this: http://www.louisehay.com/
And you might think this is a flower power hippie stuff.. but is not...!! I don't know how to explain it, I would be the first person like "oh c'mon that's ********" .... but it was not! and Im very glad i went. it's an eye opener.
I do a lot of sports, maybe that has helped me, but that's something i have done all my life.
People say that you should do Yoga, but i hate yoga (cause i lived in India like 4 years and well, long story) ... i know i should try as well...
You can't be sure of anything until you give a try... the trick is really to get yourself to try (like when i went to that workshop)
But you can't push your fiance to do this or that... u need to be careful on that...
Have you considered postponing your wedding? In m opinion maybe you should... we were going to, but we were 3 months before the wedding and we live in europe, so many guests had purchased their over 1000€ tickets already... So we made investigations and stuff, basically we didn't care much about the local or european guests, but those flying over the atlantic were really a bunch with no chance to change tickets...
But we were really considering cancelling it, it was my idea to cancel then my decision to keep going... you actually need a LOT of peace...
mmm... well thinking twice, in reality to be super honest here, the wedding was the least of my worries, that's why we continued, the least of anything... cause i felt so bad that i couldn't give a damn at some point for my wedding.... and it worked fine!!
If you are a bridezilla (like me in the beggining at some of my worse thyroid attacks) like: YOU HAVENT HELPED IN ANYTHING!!! uh uh... wrong way... that's gonna make it worse
So consider postponing.... health is more important, believe me... and you are in this together... if he is sick you are sick, cause you become one with marriage... and you don't want that this ruins that day and the rest of your lives cause is the greatest thing ever... resentments are not good foundation for marriage
Don't go to him and say: i think we should postpone the wedding... BIG NO
Instead always communicate in a positive way, for example "do you think it might help you feel better if we push our weeding some months ahead? I don't mind, i care about you" <- or whatever similar
you need to say it with love, not as a threat. there i cannot advise you, you know your man. But he needs to understand that whatever you do, is not against him (believe me, that's one thing i got all the time, the paranoia that people are doing things against me)
Oh, he needs to be off work, that helped me A LOT...
But you know, he also needs to do a lot of initial thinking.. and i cannot help you there cause i did it on my own...
cause, if you tell him maybe he will get pissed... have you tried like " i know you feel bad and i support whatever you want to do next... what is what you want to do next... how can i help you to feel better... " ... then you can start like "maybe WE could do this or that or whatever, what do you think?"... don't impose yourself, at least I know that helped me a lot...
Cause one thing i did all the time was fighting back, and you can't just stop... then everyone is your enemy, and you take every action from whomever (yes fiances included) as against you... is horrible...
Takes a lot, i think to swallow that human-pride, maybe my husband should talk to you, sometimes when he really couldn't handle me, like the worst of the worst he would just leave, not like abandoning me but like "you need your time, i'll come back in a while" .... then some reasoning would kick on me, and he is sooooo generous, so forgiving, sooo no-selfish, seriously that made me feel like an idiot everytime i had my rage attacks...
I've been so desperate, like in a hollywood movie, u n b e l i e v a b l e ... like being in the middle of a rage attack, get a panic attack at the same time, dropping whatever i was using to destroy whatever else i was destroying and getting on my knees to start crying like a baby.... oh gosh!!! you cannot imagine, feels HORRIBLE...
Now, my husband could have chosen to shout back to me, get pissed in the middle of my attack and who-knows-whatever else... but instead he chose to kind of look at me (maybe he was all shocked) but he wouldn't say a word, that's when the calming and crying comes...
I have to say, he had to put a lot from his side on this, i feel immensely blessed...
Ah, and there is one more thing, this is not going to disappear from one day to other... :(
That's why you need to help him start removing one by one the different sources of stress or irritability.... My husband has asked me if i would like to quit my job "we will manage just with my salary, dont worry"....
I don't know what to say, if you are certain of the lovely man he was and that this is only about the disease, then pass the storm with him, and protect him.... if it's something else, then maybe is good time to separate... ask your heart and stick with that :)
Love to you both, if you fix it in your mind, you will succeed :) ... strenght!!
ps . i am NOT a flowerpower hippie!! EHHH just to be clear, incredible for me to have all this pink and love speech, but i feel proud of myself that im able to do it now... :D oh, i want to cry!
ps. I did a lot of work on my own as well but that came until i accepted i was sick and how it affected my life (that was easy though)
I agree about getting TPOab and TGab tested. Hashi's is the most prevalent cuse of hypo in the developed world. It is a degenerative disease with more and more thyroid function being lost all the time. In the initial stages, as the thyroid is in the process of "dying" off, you have to keep increasing meds to keep up with the degeneration. Eventually, you will be on 100% hormone replacement and meds will stabilize, although many factors can affect our hormone needs throughout our lives.
It is very important, also, as Sally pointed out, to test FREE T3 and FREE T4 every time labs are drawn. Make sure you ask for "free" on both those as there's also a total T3 and total T4 test that's not nearly as useful, but is the default if "free" isn't specified. TSH is very volatile and can be influenced by any number of factors besides thyroid hormone levels.
If meds are in the process of being adjusted, test every 4-6 weeks. After an adjustment, you should always be tested after 4-6 weeks to see what the change has done to your levels.
It is very important, also, as Sally pointed out, to test FREE T3 and FREE T4 every time labs are drawn. Make sure you ask for "free" on both those as there's also a total T3 and total T4 test that's not nearly as useful, but is the default if "free" isn't specified. TSH is very volatile and can be influenced by any number of factors besides thyroid hormone levels.
If meds are in the process of being adjusted, test every 4-6 weeks. After an adjustment, you should always be tested after 4-6 weeks to see what the change has done to your levels.
Are you still having the rage? Have you considered other medications to help deal with rage? It feels so good knowing we aren't the only ones out there with this problem.. When everyone else just assumed he was going crazy!!!
Hi,
you just described me something like 9 months ago.
But i suffer of hyperT ... not hypoT ... or that's what they say... but one thing i've noticed is that i get HULK when i feel under stress... or viceversa if im under the slight tone of stress i'd be hulk...
The only thing that has been coincidentally high with those rage attacks have been the TPO Antibodies... now they are over 1300 (where normal value is less than 60)
That could be my imagination, but the strange thing is that the underlying cause of my hyperT is allegely Grave's disease... BUT this increasing TPOAb denotes hashimotos tiroiditis...
My story is a bit different than that one of ur fiance.... have u gotten explanation of the hypoT? is it autoinmune?
I'd insist to check the antibodies necessary to rule out ether grave's or hashimoto...
oh, one similar thing was that i got all crazy just 3 months before the wedding... i swear i don't know how my now husband really managed me... but one thing i can tell u, ur fiance needs all the support and comprehension at this point.... is horrible, i can tell u... and u might get hurt but i swearr is not with evil purpose, u just cannot control urself.... imagine me, as a woman, and i managed to crack a wall, and break some other items...
patience, love, comprehension... let himo know that u understand and pleaaase dont get pissed urself.... is not easy i can assure u....
love to u thyroidnightmare...
ps, if u are wodnering i haven't gotten cured yet, i dont even know what i hav e for real, but the love patience and understanding of my husband has made a big deal of difference... :)
you just described me something like 9 months ago.
But i suffer of hyperT ... not hypoT ... or that's what they say... but one thing i've noticed is that i get HULK when i feel under stress... or viceversa if im under the slight tone of stress i'd be hulk...
The only thing that has been coincidentally high with those rage attacks have been the TPO Antibodies... now they are over 1300 (where normal value is less than 60)
That could be my imagination, but the strange thing is that the underlying cause of my hyperT is allegely Grave's disease... BUT this increasing TPOAb denotes hashimotos tiroiditis...
My story is a bit different than that one of ur fiance.... have u gotten explanation of the hypoT? is it autoinmune?
I'd insist to check the antibodies necessary to rule out ether grave's or hashimoto...
oh, one similar thing was that i got all crazy just 3 months before the wedding... i swear i don't know how my now husband really managed me... but one thing i can tell u, ur fiance needs all the support and comprehension at this point.... is horrible, i can tell u... and u might get hurt but i swearr is not with evil purpose, u just cannot control urself.... imagine me, as a woman, and i managed to crack a wall, and break some other items...
patience, love, comprehension... let himo know that u understand and pleaaase dont get pissed urself.... is not easy i can assure u....
love to u thyroidnightmare...
ps, if u are wodnering i haven't gotten cured yet, i dont even know what i hav e for real, but the love patience and understanding of my husband has made a big deal of difference... :)
Hello,
yes, thyroid can truely cause the problems you describe. I am so glad you found the cause. Best thing is to get and keep his thyroid well regulated. make sure they test FT3 and FT4 as well as TSH to keep both of these in the upper 1/2 of their reference range and TSH in the lower end.
Would not recommend the other drugs if he doesn't otherwise have a need as these drugs also can have problems / serious side effects. Thyroid should always be optimally treated before any psychiatric medications are considered.
Make sure he is takinga vitamin D supplement (if required - he should be tested for Vit D) and B12 vitamins as well as well as a nutritious diet and regular exercise. Good if you can do this together as a couple if tyhis works for you.
Then make sure he is tested early if you he notice he starts to feel unwell.
yes, thyroid can truely cause the problems you describe. I am so glad you found the cause. Best thing is to get and keep his thyroid well regulated. make sure they test FT3 and FT4 as well as TSH to keep both of these in the upper 1/2 of their reference range and TSH in the lower end.
Would not recommend the other drugs if he doesn't otherwise have a need as these drugs also can have problems / serious side effects. Thyroid should always be optimally treated before any psychiatric medications are considered.
Make sure he is takinga vitamin D supplement (if required - he should be tested for Vit D) and B12 vitamins as well as well as a nutritious diet and regular exercise. Good if you can do this together as a couple if tyhis works for you.
Then make sure he is tested early if you he notice he starts to feel unwell.
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