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WBC Count/Segmenters High, Lymphocytes Low
Hi,
My daughter Angel was diagnosed with Lupus(SLE) in August 2013. She have her regular check ups and laboratories to be done every month. Recently, we have problems of her Hematology results. Just the other day after her lab, i found her result more alarming. WBC CELLS 14.5 (5-10 X 10/L), SEGMENTERS 0.84 (0.35 - 0.65), LYMPHOCYTES 0.12 (0.20 - 0.40). What does this mean? Do I have to worry about this laboratory result? Are there any ways to make the result acceptable on her next lab schedule? Please help. Thank you.
My daughter Angel was diagnosed with Lupus(SLE) in August 2013. She have her regular check ups and laboratories to be done every month. Recently, we have problems of her Hematology results. Just the other day after her lab, i found her result more alarming. WBC CELLS 14.5 (5-10 X 10/L), SEGMENTERS 0.84 (0.35 - 0.65), LYMPHOCYTES 0.12 (0.20 - 0.40). What does this mean? Do I have to worry about this laboratory result? Are there any ways to make the result acceptable on her next lab schedule? Please help. Thank you.
Hi - Amen to everything Robren911 said. Please, please, please try to have your daughter avoid ALL biologics if possible. I have RA and am ANA positive (without symptoms) and fought for years against them, but gave in Jan 2015 to begin Humira - which stopped working in August. I was then introduced to 2 new biologics within a very short period of time with no luck. What pharma and many doctors do not tell you is that you cannot stop taking biologics, even those who experience remission (the commercials make me sick). When/if you stop biologics your immune system will be MUCH STRONGER and more fierce than when you started them. Mine is now like the incredible hulk and I can't tell you how badly my health has turned due to the side effects.
The best things you can do to reduce pain and other symptoms is with pain medication therapy, to eat a healthy/clean diet (no processed food), exercise as much as possible (nothing too strenuous--honor your body), most of all keep your STRESS LEVELS down.
The best things you can do to reduce pain and other symptoms is with pain medication therapy, to eat a healthy/clean diet (no processed food), exercise as much as possible (nothing too strenuous--honor your body), most of all keep your STRESS LEVELS down.
I've lived with SLE since 2002. She need to adjust her diet to fix her labs. The only lab you should worry about is her ANA. if her kidney functions and liver functions are okay, just adjust her diet and make sure she hydrates very well. She needs to put up a firewall of hydration to protect her kidneys.
Also when faced with the choice of immuno blockers or pain meds, take the pain meds. I had the top specialist at Duke tell me the uoi can take the cancer strength pain meds when the pain gets bad enough or you can take the immuno blockers which often cause cancer, strokes etc. and end up on the same medications anyway. If she has been taking an immunoblocker have her stop right now and find a DR. that prefers to use the pain med approach.
As a man with lupus surviving 14 years without kidney failure is unheard of. I even had a normal ANA last year after spending 4 months in Key Royale Florida, next to Holmes Beach, I don't think Royale is on the map yet. I digress. The normal ANA test is also unheard of after 14 years. She needs to be somewhere with a stable climate. And changes in barometric pressure can set off a a flare.
Besides that hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. Use a DR. who prefers pain meds over immuno therapy, with the pain meds besides the ANA make sure the liver function is good. And every 3 months or so cycle an over the counter milk thistle regiment. It lowers high liver enzymes and generally vleans out the liver. And with the medication stay on as low a a dose as possible and use a breakthrough medication like Vicoden or Narco which replaced Loritab. And don't think Oxycontin is the big bad wolf. For people like me it was a life saver. Especially when things were really bad. I maxed out at 60MG 3x daily. And 15 Narco a month. I figured if I needed breakthrough meds every day, it was time to up the dosage of my primary meds. But the key is staying away from 80ng as long as she can because there is nowhere to go from there. I had no problem with addiction, I never felt euphoric. After a while though your body does get used to the meds. So even if you're not an addict an you decide to get off the meds, the 3 day detox is going to suck. I chose to do that of my own volition because with MS it numbed much of my lupus pain and caused more nerve pain. The good news is that today a woman diagnosed with systemic lupus can live a full life expectancy. You just need to focus on meds, hydrating, not overdoing it on good days, try to live somewhere with a reasonably stable climate. And remember that lupus is a disease of exclusion so every DR. will be different. And if your daughter takes oxycontin and doesn't have an addictive personality, she should be fine. But of course other DRs may think she is a drug seeker. To which you may point out what drug exactly would she be seeking for pneumonia other than levaquin? She already has Oxycontin. Another way is ro keep her meds and bring them to her on time. I always kept my pain meds in a huge bag with up to 21 other meds. So I couldn't just reach over and grab a breaktrough pill. In fact you might want to start with no breaktrough at all. I'm using Tylenol. And you need to understand that chronic pain doesn't happen on a scale from 1-10. You have tolerable pain. And intolerable pain. It's like suddenly falling off a cliff. I hope this helps. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have. The high lympho numbers can be caused by an immuno blocker. Several of them can eventually lead to leukemia. And fitness is important. The more she exercises early in the disease and better she rakes care of herself the longer she can fight off the ultimate breakdown of her body. Although for women that's far less likely. While women make up 85% of lupus patients, men account for 90% of lupus related deaths. Most from kidney failure, then from cancers and other illnesses brought on by the immuno blockers.
Also when faced with the choice of immuno blockers or pain meds, take the pain meds. I had the top specialist at Duke tell me the uoi can take the cancer strength pain meds when the pain gets bad enough or you can take the immuno blockers which often cause cancer, strokes etc. and end up on the same medications anyway. If she has been taking an immunoblocker have her stop right now and find a DR. that prefers to use the pain med approach.
As a man with lupus surviving 14 years without kidney failure is unheard of. I even had a normal ANA last year after spending 4 months in Key Royale Florida, next to Holmes Beach, I don't think Royale is on the map yet. I digress. The normal ANA test is also unheard of after 14 years. She needs to be somewhere with a stable climate. And changes in barometric pressure can set off a a flare.
Besides that hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. Use a DR. who prefers pain meds over immuno therapy, with the pain meds besides the ANA make sure the liver function is good. And every 3 months or so cycle an over the counter milk thistle regiment. It lowers high liver enzymes and generally vleans out the liver. And with the medication stay on as low a a dose as possible and use a breakthrough medication like Vicoden or Narco which replaced Loritab. And don't think Oxycontin is the big bad wolf. For people like me it was a life saver. Especially when things were really bad. I maxed out at 60MG 3x daily. And 15 Narco a month. I figured if I needed breakthrough meds every day, it was time to up the dosage of my primary meds. But the key is staying away from 80ng as long as she can because there is nowhere to go from there. I had no problem with addiction, I never felt euphoric. After a while though your body does get used to the meds. So even if you're not an addict an you decide to get off the meds, the 3 day detox is going to suck. I chose to do that of my own volition because with MS it numbed much of my lupus pain and caused more nerve pain. The good news is that today a woman diagnosed with systemic lupus can live a full life expectancy. You just need to focus on meds, hydrating, not overdoing it on good days, try to live somewhere with a reasonably stable climate. And remember that lupus is a disease of exclusion so every DR. will be different. And if your daughter takes oxycontin and doesn't have an addictive personality, she should be fine. But of course other DRs may think she is a drug seeker. To which you may point out what drug exactly would she be seeking for pneumonia other than levaquin? She already has Oxycontin. Another way is ro keep her meds and bring them to her on time. I always kept my pain meds in a huge bag with up to 21 other meds. So I couldn't just reach over and grab a breaktrough pill. In fact you might want to start with no breaktrough at all. I'm using Tylenol. And you need to understand that chronic pain doesn't happen on a scale from 1-10. You have tolerable pain. And intolerable pain. It's like suddenly falling off a cliff. I hope this helps. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have. The high lympho numbers can be caused by an immuno blocker. Several of them can eventually lead to leukemia. And fitness is important. The more she exercises early in the disease and better she rakes care of herself the longer she can fight off the ultimate breakdown of her body. Although for women that's far less likely. While women make up 85% of lupus patients, men account for 90% of lupus related deaths. Most from kidney failure, then from cancers and other illnesses brought on by the immuno blockers.
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