pvcs

[joshua77]

I don't no were else to what causes what but I know I have PVCs and gerd is there a relation between them or not like could they be a stomach spasm when lay down its worse please help

[Falling2010]

Cure of GERD: APPLE CIDER VINEGAR. 2tbsps mixed with warm water in a small glass. Drink this every morning for 2 weeks. It may irritate your stomach at first but it most definitely cures in the worst cases of GERD. I took this 10 years ago bc I suffered for 25yrs with a severe case of GERD and stomach ulcers. After the 2wks my GERD just disappeared and haven't had problems since.
Why ingest medications that can lead to other disorders in the future if a homeopathic cure exists?
I suggest using an ACV that contains the mother in it. Also if you are skeptical then try this when you have an acidic attack do not run to your medicine cabinet instead ingest 1tbsp of ACV.

[dhinco]

I am glad this worked for you, but it did not work for me.  

[dhinco]

YES, there is ABSOLUTELY a relationship between GERD and PVCs that most doctor's are ignorant of as it is an indirect relationship.  The relationship is this:  GERD, especially if chronic, inflames the esophagus (esophagitis) which triggers the lung airways to constrict to keep acid and particulates out of the lungs.  If reflux reaches your upper esophagus, you may also be inhaling microscopic reflux acid and particles which inflame the lung airways causing GERD Induced Asthma.  If you have ever been awakened choking on reflux, it is essentially guaranteed that you are also inhaling the reflux and you may not even be aware of it.  The asthma, if not controlled, can result in increased lung pressure and after load on the heart causing PVCs and potentially right ventricle dilation.  If you can proactively control your GERD long term with a daily proton pump inhibitor, your lungs can recover and also let your heart recover which will reduce or eliminate the PVCs.   How do I know this?  This exact scenario happened to me and it took 8 years, many thousands of dollars, the loss of my job, and about two dozen doctors and specialists before I finally found a good pulmonologist that was able to integrate the GERD/Lung/Heart problems.  I have found that cardiologists and electrophysiologists don't have a clue about the cause of PVCs and have no ambition to correct them since they are usually considered benign even though they can completely eliminate the quality of your life.  Most will likely prescribe a beta blocker or calcium channel blocker to treat the symptom rather than determine and fix the cause.  I equate this to a putting air in a slowly leaking  tire every day instead of fixing the leak leading to more problems down the road.  

GERD is much more dangerous than we are lead to believe and can cause significant health issues such as Esophageal Cancer, Sleep Apnea, Asthma, COPD, Pulmonary Hypertension and even Heart Failure.  
The diagnostic tests you may want to consider are:
-  Echocardiogram to assess your heart structure and also see if you have pulmonary hypertension.
-  Spirometry and Pulmonary Function Tests to assess your lung function.
-  Endoscopy to determine if your GERD has caused esophagitis and also to see if you may have a Hiatal Hernia or Barrett's.
-  Sleep Study Test - most asthmatics have GERD which also causes sleep apnea and hypoxia that stresses your heart and can cause PVCs.

In my case, I have Hashimoto's, a Hiatal Hernia and had a Parathyroid Tumor which are all related to and contribute to GERD (a miserable trifecta).  By going on an asthma inhaler and daily omeprazole, I was able to eliminate my sleep apnea, get off of nightly O2, and reduce my fatigue and 90% of my PVCs in four months.  My quality of life is exponentially better.  Bottom line - if you can successfully keep your GERD under control, preferably with a PPI since they are far better in acid suppression than H2 inhibitors and Tums/Rolaids your PVCs will likely be significantly reduced if not eliminated.  If your PVCs make you short of breath, your lungs are likely involved.   If you do use PPI's, be aware that they can reduce absorption of iron, calcium and other minerals, so you may have to test for these and supplement accordingly.  It should be obvious, but if you smoke cigarettes or anything else - STOP.

The above is my personal first hand experience and opinion.  I am not a doctor and the above is not to be construed as medical advice.  

Best of luck to you and everyone this may apply to.  I hope you don't lose eight years of your life like I did.

DH

[dhinco]

Google "Gastrocardiac Syndrome" and "Roemheld Syndrome" which will explain the relationship much better than I can.  Dr. Sanjay Gupta also has several YouTube videos that eloquently explain the Stomach/Heart relationship.  Roemheld died over 80 years ago, so this Syndrome is nothing new.  I find it disgusting that American doctors are so ignorant about this, especially the cardiologists/electrophysiologists.  I guess there is no money to be made prescribing PPIs.

[Teabaglady1]

Hello,  I agree with you.  Basically, the Gerd, esophogitis, gastritis can be awful and scary.   For me, I did not feel the medsications were the answer.   I still had the problem.   I began to do some research and I found this rdcipe for success, at least for me.  I can now go into an Italuan restaurant and est in peace, if  you know what I mean.   I have stopped coffee in the am.  I take earl grey tea with bergomot flavoring.  I kept up this regiman and after a few weks, i wasn't thinking about the symptoms.   This worked for me.   I do think that the bergomot was the key!.   I also took maybe a pepcid in the afternoon.   Let me know if you try it.  I am not an expert and you do need to check with your physician however for diagnosis, treatment in your case.

[Smiley2000]

Hi there,

I agree with what Flycaster said about GERD and PVC's being very common and once you start noticing your heart beat you are definitely more aware of it.

One thing that I can add:  the vagus nerve can get irritated by acid reflux and I am sure this can increase the amount of PVC's and PAC's.  The electrical pathway of the heart is very very completed but can be controlled by medication - i.e. beta blockers/calcium channel blockers.

[Flycaster305]

Almost all of us have PVCs, and generally they are considered harmless, but certainly can be a distraction.  Not everyone feels them.  We often can detect them when we lay down and relax a bit.  I doubt that there is a relationship between PVCs and GERD, but I'm not a health professional, but bet when you lay down and relax you can detect your PVCs easier.  Also, when you lay down, GERD problems can become worse.  I suggest you raise the head of your bed about six inches, don't eat for three or more hours before bedtime and see if the GERD symptoms abate.  
Keep us informed.