suboxone?????????????

[serenitysaves]

hello to all.  I've been finding the forum a great place to read information, hear experences, and even laugh once in awhile.

I've said I'm on Methadone and tring to taper. this will be my second time in five years.  Needless to say the first time did'nt go to well.

anyway I've been hearing alot of talk about subutex and suboxone.  I'm wondering what's the difference besides one having a blocker and one not.

and also I've seen it sujusted people are'nt using it the way it's ment to be used.
and so how is it ment to be used?

I've been working on my taper for awhile and was looking forward to living w/o any narcodits but, my clinic is pushing for me to get on suboxone.

I'm wondering why would I work sooooooooo hard to get off methadone only to get on something eles I'll need to detox from.

In saying this my clinic looks at my methadone as a "life sustaining drug"  and wants me to stay on suboxone for at least a year or two or three..... before I would detox.

anyway sorry it's so long and out of sorts, but my mind like most is all over the place.
and yes my spelling sucks so please bare with me.

Thanks, Robin

[getoffdrugs68]

Robin, I do not  suggest to anyone Methadone or Suboxone for more than a few days at the lowest tolerable dose. These so called maintenance drugs will not fill the void in our souls without bad consequences. I have been on both for a decade and I am done with all of it and quit cold turkey 2 months ago and I am a different person today because of the pain/emotions I finally manned up to. I could eat tree bark for 2 weeks and get addicted to it...lol

[Helpmehelpyou980]

Because being on something else probably won’t let you relapse. If you don’t think you can be straight, take suboxone. Don’t worry about the detox now. If done properly you are fine. I have done it. You taper you don’t just come off it, and you taper slowly. Good luck

[bdoon]

I am on a 7 day detox using subxone...I am detoxing from 250mg oxycontin day the doctors prescribe me. They started me at 8 mgs bupe and now I am down to 2 mgs. If you have narcotics in your system when you first take it the nax will put you into withdrawals, You don't get any euphoria....I don't care what they say methadone makes you high...suboxone doesn't. I have had minimal withdrawal symptons but what the brother said is correct...if you are maintained on bupe you will get addicted,,,wouldn't it be funny if they give you heroin to detox you from bupe? Not really but just trying to make the point that none of these narcotics is much better or much worse cause chemically they are all so similar. Would maintaining on bupe be better than methadone? Well one thing better is that some physicians at private practices can prescribe bupe and you don't have to go to a clinic like I do. Not to cause you any dismay brother but from all the research I have done the last year the narcotic I would least like to be on is methadone. Even heroin according to what I've read, is more predictable than meth. I don't know that for a fact but I read it on a medical web site. I've never used heroin but I have used Meth and I prefer this bupe....you are alot more functional...nevertheless to repeat, in my humble opinion, all these drugs are very similar.

[EvilfromGville]

I've lost more friends from mixing methadone and benzos than heroin or any opiate combined with benzos for that matter. My husband and I tried methadone MAT and I have to say that the first dose was one of the highest, best buzzes ever. Plus the clinic didn't tell us that using methadone to get off lortabs wasn't the best idea. Methadone lead to an even worse addiction to oxy and opana.

[mombojombo]

man, I LOVE your user name.  lol  How are things now?  Have you and your husband gotten clean?

[serenitysaves]

thank you, I'd like to know whats going into my mouth now before it comes out.
I'm still wondering what to do.  

take care

[Helpmehelpyou980]

It is a god send for me. I would probably lose another job or be dead without it. There are solutions to all side effects. Many just stop trying to look into it when something doesn’t work. Stop listening to people saying don’t take it. They are not doctors and everyone’s experiences and situations are different bc we are all different. It’s up to you to decide. Not for them to decide for you!

[FLaddict]

Your other question was how it was meant to be used...  The drug co wants your doctor to think you need it for longer than you really do..  They are finding out through addicts experiences that people who take it longer than 3 weeks to a month or if it is taking at high doses people are becoming dependent on it and having a he77 of a time stopping once they are on it...

I did alot of research on it so if you have any questions I am available and you can also email me.. My address is in my profile

[Helpmehelpyou980]

Its a god send for me. I would probably lose another job or be dead without it. There are solutions to all side effects. Many just stop trying to look into it when something doesn’t work. Stop listening to people saying don’t take it. They are not doctors and everyone’s experiences and situations are different bc we are all different. It’s up to you to decide. Not for them to decide for you!

[FLaddict]

Subutex is buprenorphine only... It does not contain naloxone

Suboxone- is buprenorphine plus naloxone..

Naloxone is actually NOT the blocker.. it is in there to prevent the use of it IV and was to help discourage diversion of the streets.. hence why more people are prescibed Suboxone.

Buprenorphine is what does the blocking. the drug itself at certain levels will prevent other opiates from attaching to the receptors. So both drugs block opiates. One is used more to prevent abuse through shooting it up and from selling it on the street..

[Helpmehelpyou980]

I disagree with the shooting up portion. I am a nurse. The naoxone stops you from getting higher. You could always take massive amounts of opioids to overcome it, but then you would probably OD. You might want to research that info you are passing on.

[Shelvis0209]

I know for a fact that Naloxone IS the blocker because I take suboxone. It's designed to stop any other narcotic from attaching to the brain. Buprenorphine is a narcotic. Suboxone is buprenorphene/Naloxon together. With a prescription of suboxone, now anyway, comes with a prescription for Narcan. This is ONLY used when someone has OD'd. It knocks all narcotics off of the brain and saves people's lives if used in time. Please, get the facts before passing on any kind of medication information so it its safe for other's. Also, when in the slightest doubt, ask a doctor or pharmacist.