I have patm

[Stephie922]

Can anyone please help me
I'm suffering from something called patm where people cough, sneeze and rub their noses around me.
Please can someone help me as if this doesn't stop soon I have no idea what I'll do but I can't keep living like this

Thank you

[Stephie922]

Had enough, I'm done.

[Zetti444]

Stephanie, if you follow the candida diet it will take some time for you to notice a difference. The diet in itself isn't easy to do at first, because your body will crave sugar and caffeine. If you can get through that though you will start seeing a difference in a couple of weeks to a month. That may not be the answer that you want to hear, but don't simply give up on yourself.

[Arnaud123]

Try Kefir, it helps reducing reactions. Don’t give up we are all in the same boat.

[Arnaud123]

My name is arnaud by the way and I’am french.

[jimp39]

Stop eating junk food and dont over eat especially after 5 pm.
Sugar, chicken,crab seasoning etc (avoid seasoning containing yeast or chemicals.
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[Stephie922]

Ok thanks

[SeattleBlade3pk88]

Hi Stephie, I don't like to say " I have PATM". DOESN'T sound right... " I have people are allergic to me"... When I first noticed the symptoms I didn't realize how bizarre a situation life had thrown at me. I have been making people cough relentlessly, clear their throats loudly (just to make sure I hear their suffering), & some even start to gag and gasp for air as if their throat was swelling shut for about 4 years. The first 2 years I thought it was my hygiene since I lived on the street, but since I've been living in my apartment I know it's definitely not my hygiene and never was. I live in Seattle and by now the entire apartment complex knows something is up.  I have always had severe social anxiety issues so I would isolate a lot before, but now that I've started to come out more and socialize, I'm being forced back into isolation because of this terrible dilemma. I too have been to the doctors and even though they also get reactions around me they swear they haven't a clue. I know this isn't a solution but even though some of this doesn't make sense, like how people react to us from across the street or two rooms away, I swear some people even start running past me just to get away faster! All I can suggest is read different people's experiences as much as you can, this website is helping me piece together my own theory about my problem. By you sharing your story I share my story, & we all learn from each other & I have A strong feeling there are many different ways to end up with this malady of ours.  And one last thing, if anyone's situation is as bad as mine is, HANG IN THERE DON'T GIVE UP! This has kept me from employment, from my family/friends, made my depression worst (on the brink of suicidal). But the best remedy so far for me, when I don't feel like going anywhere because the shame is unbearable, feeling like the new age hunchback of Notre dame, has been to just go outside and yell f+++ everybody! F+++ you, f+++ you, YOU'RE cool! All the while the routine coughing and all that goes on just join in and cough and sneeze burp right back at them. Simply ignore them just do what ever you want to do, life goes on.

[ocvq]

The same, simply that I have not been for you like 4 years ago ...... As you tell. Moreover, it seems as if an energy reaches them, even going beyond walls and so on ....... Greetings!

[jimp39]

  If you need a friend seattleblades im in arlington v.a.
When i struggled patm at high level, it was difficult but i had/have a job
You have too many choices
Cdl driver, pick up dog poop, driver (amazon or others) handdling chemicals, be a mosquito chemical  guy so lol so many jobs for guys with patm.
So dont give up and i posted i did find a solution to patm

[hope630]

Some people have a really negative reaction to flax. I can’t eat it at all. Careful with the flax. It takes a while to heal your intestines. Keep up the gluten free dairy free diet for a month and you should notice results. It should help. And you can eat potato and rice.

[GuitarRox]

Have you been able to heal yourself through diet?

[hope630]

In a way. As long as I am very strict with the diet, there is no PTSM. But if I eat something that has gluten or dairy in it. People  around me will react. Lately it is people that I know, that have never  reacted before

[hope630]

It has been like 7 years. It is forever. But it is totally worth it compared to life before. I also had really bad eczema and psoriasis that stays clear if I stay on the diet. I can sleep well at night for the first time in my life and I feel 100 times better than I did before. I hadn’t realized that I had always had digestive problems. Life is so much better now.

[ocvq]

The diet would basically be: Any kind of meat plus vegetables, right? No yogurt or milk derivatives, no wheat flour or cereals, like potatoes. Simply meat with vegetables, preferably boiled or cooked in wood without oils. I went on that diet for almost 2 years, my breakfast used to be flax seeds or coconut milk. It didn't work on my body. Oh, and I have nothing of other types of problems other than sinusitis, nothing recorded. You could try the diet again by placing it more strict.

[hope630]

Honestly, it is not that complicated. No wheat, no dairy. Basically try staying away from processed foods. You can eat all the unprocessed meats and all the vegetables and fruits. Nothing breaded. It is difficult for a while when you are getting used to it. But totally worth it. Do a little readership on gluten. So that you understand where it is hiding.  
My life is so much better. Living like that was torture.

[ocvq]

Exactly, it is not difficult, in fact I did exactly that, unlike I consumed a lot of chicken, boiled meat and green vegetables, usually either boiled or raw salad, I did not eat much fruit, I avoided citrus fruits. Like I told you, I did this for almost 2 years, I also did other diets like candida albicans for months and nothing. Of course, the gluten-free diet gave me a lot of energy, however, I did not eliminate the PATM. I plan to do that diet again just because now I am in an exercise routine where I have to demand boiled foods of the most natural thing, so I will go back to doing the gluten-free diet. Thanks anyway, greetings.

[crazeek]

I strongly believe it has something to do with inflammation and dehydration. It seems every time I google my symptoms dehydration comes up. Has anyone noticed a lot of static electricity when they touch things. Especially in the winter months. I’m not sure if plain water is enough for me. I almost died at the age of 14 from dehydration. Then I was admitted to the hospital right around the time this all started, which was about 8-9!years ago. I was severely dehydrated and my potassium was very low. I also had horrible left side pains. I was working out excessively at the time. I remember one day I noticed I was working out but was not sweating. This was a couple days before I went to the ER.

[hope630]

Well the gluten and dairy part is all about inflammation. So I definitely think that it is related to inflammation. Dehydration is vey dangerous, it is definitely important not to let yourself get dehydrated. I never made the link, but it is possible that I wasn’t drinking enough water back when this all started. I’ll start trying to pay attention to my water consumption. But I really don’t have much of a problem anymore since I completely eliminated gluten and dairy. I guess some people could be getting inflammation from something else. I’ve heard that refined sugar can cause a lot of inflammation. I don’t really eat a lot of sugar or processed foods that have hidden sugars. But I’m sure eliminating sugar would make the difference for some people.

[ocvq]

I will say my diet which did not work for me: White meats boiled or baked without the most natural seasoning, green vegetables, onion and cucumber, broccoli ...... No potato. My breakfast was flaxseed juice or coconut milk. Substitute stevia for sugar, no coffee or sugary sodas. In the evening or at dinner he generally did not eat. The diet itself gives you good energy, obviously it requires constant attention such as buying vegetables and fresh meat in addition to preparing yourself both for home as well as taking to work. Unfortunately that diet in me did not work against the PATM.

[hope630]

I hope you are doing better. I had it for years. I figured out my problem. I needed to completely eliminate all diary and gluten. I need to be extremely vigilant. A can’t have any trace. But, I have a normal life now. Only get reactions from others when I accidentally eat one of these things. I hope this helps, life will get better.

[ocvq]

HELLO, how long were you on the diet "treatment"? Because here they say many things, that they are candida, that they are fungus in the nose, that they are electrostatic, that there are many other problems ......

[dmarshalls]

It's a fight or flight reaction. It's not diet, I'm sure of it.  Not chemicals in shampoo. It's inside you, endocrine  stuff. You used to wonder what it was.  Now you're afraid of what your reaction will be to just the idea of everyone being allergic to you. They know it's you, and you know they know. That's when the avoidance comes in, and you are pretty much housebound like a textbook agoraphobic. Am I right?

[ocvq]

It is as if they seek to victimize themselves or have an excuse. What makes me sick are some minor children, generally children do not react, but sometimes there are 1. I think something similar to you, it seems a subconscious action that is automated when we are young due to some tragic events that affect us emotionally. In any case, when you are focused on a problem in addition to being relaxed, the PATM is as if it disappears, it is really strange.

[dmarshalls]

Stephie,
Further, you're not crazy or imagining this stuff. Fund someone to help you. I waited far too long
Doug

[dmarshalls]

I just responded. I am Doug,
dmarshalls_2000***@****

[dmarshalls]

Hi. I think it is in part due to a flushing sensation, much like when you are embarrassed. In this situation, chemicals are released, particularly from your feet.
I suffer to. If this sounds right, let me know

[crazeek]

Flushing is an issue that I have too. Especially after eating. I’ve been reading about histamine intolerance.

[crazeek]

Flushing is an issue that I have too. Especially after eating. I’ve been reading about histamine intolerance.

[11900]

It's this skin cleanser called Hibiclens it worked miracles for me. I use it daily as a body wash, you should give it a try.

[crazeek]

What were your symptoms?

[crazeek]

I know what it is. Why did you use it ?

[Stephie922]

I'm at a loss for what to do I can't keep living like this I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING

[crazeek]

How long have you been dealing with this? What kind of comments do you get from people? Do you have any idea where it is coming from on your body.

[Stephie922]

About a year and I don't know where it's coming from as soon as I get close enough it starts and not all peo0le only like 2 out of 5

[Zetti444]

There was one poster here who was a teenager.  How he beat patm is he stopped eating and only drank water. I can't recall if it was for 1 or 2 weeks, but he claims that he stopped getting reactions after that. I'm not sure what his diet was after he started eating again, but apparently patm didn't return.

[jimp39]

Stephanie922
You are on time dont let it get stronger.
The more years with patm the more agressive it turns
I already posted my solution you can use it as a basic guide to yourself.
In my  case parasites, dysbiosis, candida bad bacteria.
If this is your case after eating pizza, coffee, mcdonnals or any junk food patm will turn agressive.

This what i used to find out the issue
I drink blended kale and celery 1 glass every 2 hours.
Eat small portions of salads (no croutons, little dressing, no raisings or sweets,.
(Make sure to wash out kale really well)
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If you have thrimelaminuria fish odor sindrome you find out after you ate fish
...
In my case i eat fish and theres no change  in patm

[Stephie922]

Thank you

[dmarshalls]

I really don't think it's a diet thing. I think Its a nervous system thing exacerbated by stimulants, anxiety, shyness and fear.

[User456]

Stress was a big factor to me. I over came it and I’m free. Stop stressing about it and giving it mind and focusing on the PATM. Live your life and don’t allow your mind to overcome that anxiety. Good luck !

[crazeek]

I know plenty of people who have terrible anxiety but do not smell at all. So although I am sure nerves can cause a body odor but not to this degree. Probably more like sweaty armpit odor. What I am dealing with is more diet related. Now your BO could possibly be nerves.

[LookingForPATMfix]

please try Ketakonazole shampoo, it will help alot

[anig_88]

WHERE CAN I BUY THIS?