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Afraid of the Covid19 vaccines - Fertility? DNA? Herpes? Make it make sense.

So, it's probably obvious I have some anxiety, but I just keep hearing things about the vaccines and how they might affect my future fertility, it changes my DNA, and now I might get herpes from it??

I just don't know what to think anymore. I know I need the vaccine, and want to do my part, but this is really scary.
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After my Astra Zeneca jab 6pm Friday 26th March, I woke at 4am in agony with chest pains, swollen legs, tongue, inner cheeks, sternum I couldn't bare to touch it for the chronic pain. My breasts sere so painful as if I had mastitis!!  As I breathed, my rib cage ached and had sharp pains as if I had broken ribs.  Headaches severe also.  I am not a person to get headaches usually and am healthy 78 year old with full mobility.  I felt so tired and drained, became irritable when usually I am very accepting of people's behaviour and stay calm.  All testing showed inflammation everywhere.  Heart and lungs were clear, no blood clots.
Now it is May 13th, I am very  inflamed still .  My swollen tongue and inner cheeks still get in the way when I eat and talk so get bitten often. Pain still lingers everywhere in my body, especially tendons,  with that dull ache in my head persisting.
Flu jabs react badly with me giving me months of sickness and lung problems whereas usually I stay healthy through each winter.
The on line Covid 19 hotline regarding symptoms recommended I ask my doctor if I should miss the second dose or be hospitalised for 3 days observation if I do get the jab.
In conference with the medical team at The Hob Launceston, it was decided to cancel my second jab.
Meanwhile I wait and hope that the symptoms will go away.  I want to get on with my life!!  So much to enjoy, create, friends to catch up with. My dog to walk long walks again
My MD said there is no treatment for my symptoms.  He can't help me.
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That is really a bad reaction. Did your medical team at The Hob Launceston give you any indication of how common such a strong response is? (It must be towards the extreme end or we'd hear of responses like that all the time; it would be interesting be to hear how rare this is.)

Since you also react badly to flu shots, has your doctor ever expressed an opinion about what causes it you to have reactions like this, or possibly even had you take part in a study? (For example, I had a friend who is allergic to one of the elements of a flu vaccine, egg I think. She simply can't get the flu shot, there's no taking it and gutsing it through; her doctor won't let her get it.)

And did they ask you, when you got the AstraZeneca shot, whether you had ever reacted badly to any other vaccine? They sure asked me that question, but I had the Moderna shot; maybe they have a different pre-vaccine protocol.
Just wondering if your MD has any actual expertise, or is just a general practitioner?  It sounds to me like you had either a severe immune system response or an allergic reaction, both of which do have treatments that can help.  I don't know if those treatments are advisable for you or not, I, like your general practitioner, am also no expert on excessive immune system reactions, but there are docs who are and you might want to look for one.  This is going on far too long.  I don't know which country you live in, the US doesn't use that vax, but again, if, say, you had a severe immune reaction to eating a peanut, there are treatments so I just think there might be something for you.  It might be steroidal, which isn't great to have to take, but feeling the way you're feeling isn't great either.  There's a reason they recommend that 3 day observation -- it's for people who get extreme allergic reactions to such things and because there are things they can do to stop it.  Can't say if anything will help you, especially after so much time, but I'd want to find out.  Peace.
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What do you expect could be the answer of people about to die or very ill because of  Covid, if you ask them about being vaccinated several months earlier?
The same response of timely  quiting smoking in advanced lung cancer patients.
No worries about potential vaccines risks should overwhelm the personal and population benefits.
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207091 tn?1337709493
You won't get herpes from it, for sure. That started because of a clickbait headline from a newspaper. What it actually meant was that some people were seeing shingles, which is a recurrence of the varicella virus - the chicken pox virus. It is a member of the herpes family of viruses.

There is anecdotal evidence that some people are getting hsv1 or hsv2 outbreaks after getting vaccinated, especially after the 2nd shot, but you can't get infected with herpes - any kind of herpes virus - from the shot.

The only thing you'll get from the vaccine is protection from covid, and maybe you'll feel like crap for a few days. I did, for sure, but it was better than covid.  
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If it's any consolation to you, I'm an old guy, 68, and the only thing I got was a sore arm for a couple days.  The DNA thing is because two of the vaccines use a novel technology using RNA, which sounds enough like DNA to allow conspiracy theorists to go to town.  But it's not DNA.  Don't know where you saw about the fertility issue, but this arises from extremist religious fanatics who have been killing people for years and years to prevent them from being vaccinated, mostly against polio.  It's a lie meant to impose fear on uneducated people.  Look, if you want covid to go away, we all have to get vaccinated.  Just as we did with smallpox and polio etc.  All drugs can have a side effect, and nothing is 100% safe, including whatever you ate today.  But if you don't eat you will starve, and if enough people don't get vaccinated, we won't achieve herd immunity and we'll be living like this forever.  Sometimes risks are not worth it.  In this case they are, but none of the things you mentioned are actual risks.  Peace.
3191940 tn?1447268717
I agree with AnnieBrooke - choose your sources of information carefully.  Remember that most of the people "warning" you of the "dangers" of the vaccine are the same people who said that COVID was a hoax - so they've been ignoring science all along.

If you take a step back and think about it logically, that should help a bit.  A vaccine is designed to ONLY train your cells to identify COVID, so that your cells can defend you against COVID.  There is no plausible biological mechanism by which it could affect fertility.

Also, it is VERY difficult to change anything about a person's DNA, even when scientists are specifically attempting to do so in order to cure a genetic disease.  If it were as easy as administering a vaccine, we would have cured sickle cell anemia and cystic fibrosis long ago.  

Even though none of the vaccines are DNA-based, I've seen irrational concerns about having foreign DNA injected into the body.  Keep in mind that anytime a woman has unprotected intercourse with a man, foreign DNA enters her body.  Any time a woman is pregnant, the fetus' DNA will be "foreign," as well, and nobody freaks out about that.

You'll be absolutely fine - better than fine, actually, since you'll be protected against COVID.
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Choose your sources of information more wisely. A person reading the Internet randomly can find all kinds of fake stuff to confirm their biases; if you are anxious in general it can really do a number on you.

Talk to your own trusted doctor, and/or read reliable sources. If you can't tell what sites are reliable, try the Centers for Disease Control or respected medical sites, such as the Mayo Clinic.

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