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has anyone got any speech problems such as forming the words since diagnosis
Audrey - this is better handled as a post of your own - a new one - so we can all talk about these problems, some of which are cognitive, some language and some coordination.
You can just copy and paste this. Here I'm afraid a large number will miss it due to the age of the post.
I'll be looking for it.
Quix
You can just copy and paste this. Here I'm afraid a large number will miss it due to the age of the post.
I'll be looking for it.
Quix
This is an older question, but deals with a major issue for me.
I have not be dx'd, but for 7+ years, I have had problems with language. At first, it was just verbal. On those days where I'd have the brain fog, my voice was soft and I found that I would misuse words or garble syllables/words. This still continues; while it generally lasts for the better part of the day, it usually only lasts for a day and it can be weeks or months between episodes. And yes, I do have the slurring of speech, even on days without brain fog.
What has become a greater concern lately for me is my written language skills. I was one of the best before this all started. Not fast, but at least accurate. Now my typing speed has gone way down because of the mistakes I make. It's like the signals from my brain aren't going to my fingers when I type. I also notice that I've sometimes made an effort to strike a key, yet the pressure isn't enough for the keystroke to register.
It now goes beyond just typing. Over the past few months, it is creeping into handwriting as well.
My background is in accounting and finance, with a high level position, so this is very embarassing for me. I make fewer mistakes with numbers and those that I do make, I'm usually able to catch due to systems put in place to detect or double check for errors.
If anyone has suggestions on how to deal with the written part of things, I'm all eyes and ears.
I have not be dx'd, but for 7+ years, I have had problems with language. At first, it was just verbal. On those days where I'd have the brain fog, my voice was soft and I found that I would misuse words or garble syllables/words. This still continues; while it generally lasts for the better part of the day, it usually only lasts for a day and it can be weeks or months between episodes. And yes, I do have the slurring of speech, even on days without brain fog.
What has become a greater concern lately for me is my written language skills. I was one of the best before this all started. Not fast, but at least accurate. Now my typing speed has gone way down because of the mistakes I make. It's like the signals from my brain aren't going to my fingers when I type. I also notice that I've sometimes made an effort to strike a key, yet the pressure isn't enough for the keystroke to register.
It now goes beyond just typing. Over the past few months, it is creeping into handwriting as well.
My background is in accounting and finance, with a high level position, so this is very embarassing for me. I make fewer mistakes with numbers and those that I do make, I'm usually able to catch due to systems put in place to detect or double check for errors.
If anyone has suggestions on how to deal with the written part of things, I'm all eyes and ears.
I shouldn't presume to answer for Quix, but she doesn't always get on the forum or have the time to answer a lot of posts, so I thought I would suggest that you visit her home page and read her journal entry about her journey to diagnosis.
If you haven't done that yet, just click onto her name, and it will take you to her MedHelp home page. She has some awesome pictures there, too.
She is an amazing woman, and we are very luck to have her here. Great source of information, great sense of humor, deep compassion, and a passion for helping others.
Take care,
Kathy
If you haven't done that yet, just click onto her name, and it will take you to her MedHelp home page. She has some awesome pictures there, too.
She is an amazing woman, and we are very luck to have her here. Great source of information, great sense of humor, deep compassion, and a passion for helping others.
Take care,
Kathy
Hello I have briefely oulined the fact I am married with twin boys and have been a nurse for 27yrs diagnosed 2 yrs ago but cannot recall any symptoms before my first episode
you seem very knowledgable are you a health professional or just attained the info over the years
kez138
you seem very knowledgable are you a health professional or just attained the info over the years
kez138
Hi there!
I know you said since diagnosis, and I am undiagnosed, but I have experienced the troubles with language. Just yesterday I said "I'm going to sprinkle the dish with spinach" while grabbing the pepper mill. I thought pepper, meant pepper, but said spinach. There was no spinach in the house, hadn't thought about spinach; don't know where it came from. Luckily I was with a friend who is used to me saying such things.
Like "I like those little slides by the pool shaped like elephants" when they were shaped like whales.
I've been typing on the forum and totally forgotten how to spell a word. I was at 12th grade reading level in 4th grade and have always been able to spell; I'm used to friends calling me to ask how to spell something so they don't have to look it up. Now I'm using my dictionary, or even thesauras, since sometimes the word I mean to use is inaccessible.
When my tremors were at my worst, they affected my voice, which was kind of weird.
Hey, I live in Portland, where some people have bumperstickers that say "Keep Portland Weird". No problem for me!
Oh, and all the above is definitely worse the more fatigued I am.
Kathy
I know you said since diagnosis, and I am undiagnosed, but I have experienced the troubles with language. Just yesterday I said "I'm going to sprinkle the dish with spinach" while grabbing the pepper mill. I thought pepper, meant pepper, but said spinach. There was no spinach in the house, hadn't thought about spinach; don't know where it came from. Luckily I was with a friend who is used to me saying such things.
Like "I like those little slides by the pool shaped like elephants" when they were shaped like whales.
I've been typing on the forum and totally forgotten how to spell a word. I was at 12th grade reading level in 4th grade and have always been able to spell; I'm used to friends calling me to ask how to spell something so they don't have to look it up. Now I'm using my dictionary, or even thesauras, since sometimes the word I mean to use is inaccessible.
When my tremors were at my worst, they affected my voice, which was kind of weird.
Hey, I live in Portland, where some people have bumperstickers that say "Keep Portland Weird". No problem for me!
Oh, and all the above is definitely worse the more fatigued I am.
Kathy
Hi, Welcome! Have you told us your story? If not, please do so we can get to know you.
There are two parts to speech.
The first is actually language. The understanding and communication of our thoughts and our understanding of what is being said around us. The Cog fog gives us problems with the language part; finding words, coming up with word substitutes, putting grammatical sentences together, keeping ideas coherent.
Then there is the mechanical part of communicating our language and that is speech. Problems with speech can include just trying to get the words out, pronouncing the words, the tonal quality of our speech, using emphasis and inflection. Problems with speech can be from weakness or spasticity of the muscles of our mouths, throats and vocal cords. Or it can be with the way our brain tries to direct the speech.
There is a particular type of speech that is characteristic of MS and is called "scanning speech." You probably have all heard it at some time. In scanning speech every syllable and every word is given the same emphasis. If you try to say a sentence outloud giving every single syllable the same emphasis you can reproduce it pretty well.
Input from any of our speech people (Speechgeek??) is welcome here.
db - Cog fog is felt to be partly a form of mental fatigue and is definitely worsened by physical fatigue
Quix
There are two parts to speech.
The first is actually language. The understanding and communication of our thoughts and our understanding of what is being said around us. The Cog fog gives us problems with the language part; finding words, coming up with word substitutes, putting grammatical sentences together, keeping ideas coherent.
Then there is the mechanical part of communicating our language and that is speech. Problems with speech can include just trying to get the words out, pronouncing the words, the tonal quality of our speech, using emphasis and inflection. Problems with speech can be from weakness or spasticity of the muscles of our mouths, throats and vocal cords. Or it can be with the way our brain tries to direct the speech.
There is a particular type of speech that is characteristic of MS and is called "scanning speech." You probably have all heard it at some time. In scanning speech every syllable and every word is given the same emphasis. If you try to say a sentence outloud giving every single syllable the same emphasis you can reproduce it pretty well.
Input from any of our speech people (Speechgeek??) is welcome here.
db - Cog fog is felt to be partly a form of mental fatigue and is definitely worsened by physical fatigue
Quix
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I have experienced the last couple of years, and I still do, problems pronouncing words. I just can't get the word out. I am not sure whether it is the mechanical part of communicating or the brains related problems. I noticed that it worst when I speak french, which is my native language. It is getting worse as it is affecting the usage of vocabulary. I tend to try to find substitutes to words I have difficulties pronouncing and as the result the quality of my vocabulary and speech is affected.
I had one occasion recently when I could not recall a word and had to look it up. A few times where I was slow to recall, but like jensequitur, my feeling was that this was more due to fatigue than cognition. On a related note, I had a few days where I had sudden onset of a very raspy voice, no pain or other symptoms, and it went away on its own. May or may not have had to do with my MS.
db
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I have had a lot of problems with my speech including word retrieval but it all seemed to have started by being overdosed on my meds by a inept neurologist. However, I am still having trouble with my speech in that I sound like I am drunk due to slurring my words. I have even more problems when I am tired with slurring, stuttering, and word retrieval. I am to supposedly undergo a neuropsych consulation to find out if the cognitive problems I have are due to my MS diagnosis.
Lots of Hugs,
Rena
Lots of Hugs,
Rena
I've had problems in the past with slurred speech, but it's mostly just fatigue. Do you have any lesions in your neck?
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