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Ladies please help, Crazy or not?

Jul 08, 2012 - 18 comments

So this month since I started 6 days early it got me to thinking..DO I have crazy cycles?  They're always off..sometimes close but sometimes wayyy different.  So I went back a year and wrote them down and hopefully you ladies can help me...Crazy or No?  

April 30th-May 4th =  40 days
June 9th- 14th =  42days
July 22nd-27th =  28 days
August 21st - 25th =  31 days
Sept. 21st - 25th =  33 days
October 24th - 28th =  36 days
Nov. 29th - Dec. 3rd =  30 days
Dec 2011- Jan 1, 2012 =  37 days
Feb, 4th-Feb 8, =  28 days
march 3rd-7th=  35 days
April 7th-10th =  33 days
May 10-15th =  31 days
June 10th -13th =  28 days.  

IF they are crazy..what could be the cause of this?  I'm SICK of not really knowing when she's going to show.  I was mowing at my MIL's today thinking, "man I'm crampy, but it's nothing new" went to use the bathroom and BAM there she was.. I had NOTHING with me, had to leave and all that garbage.   Just curious if this is weird or not. Thanks!! :)

This IS never ending. :(
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1386765 tn?1451164337
by pb95, Jul 08, 2012
It does seem  unusual.  Sometimes mine is a day or two off when I've been a bit stressed.  It used to be every 28-32 days, and ovulating around day 18.  Now since I've been seeing the acupuncturist, it is always 27 days and always ovulating on day 14.  Amazingly accurate.    

I can't remember - do you chart your ovulation day and do you ovulate regularly?

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by stacey10, Jul 08, 2012
The ones with a couple of days difference I wouldnt worry about too much, so the 28-31 day cycles I would still consider to be regular, the others indicate more than likely a late ovulation pattern for some reason, everyones luteal ph is usually the same each cycle or with a day or two,  you could try either vitex or maca to regulate your cycles abit more, maca has the added benefit of nourishing your overies at the same time, so is also good for egg health and it regulates your hormones without containing any hormones

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by stacey10, Jul 08, 2012
and acupucture if you can afford it, it can help regulate cycles as well :)

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by Des_a_rae, Jul 08, 2012
Okay, firstly, thank you both so much!  

As far as ovulation, I usually get a + opk around CD 17, now having said that..and this is going to be so hard to explain so I apologize in advance lol..  There was one month when I got my + opk around cd 17..then about a week later I was feeling "crampy" in my ovary area and was seeing EWCM again and I thought..'why not test'...  well I did and this + was blaring at me..  there's no denying it was yet another one.  When I see my first positive, I stop testing...RE said, just don't waste your time because it's the first one that counts because I WAS testing everyday and would get a + about 3 days in a row then it would be negative...SO This month that I got 2 +'s a week apart was awkward.. and then it happened again the next month....Now I'm wondering IF i had tested all those other months, would I have gotten ANOTHER + a week or so later than the first one?  I just don't know..soo confusing and it really always has been!    I'm trying to remember when I was taking clomid for 3 months if  they were more regular.  I'll look when I get done writing this.  

I'll be looking into the maca and vitex.  I would really like to try acupuncture, hopefully it could also help with my painful periods.   I'm just wondering also...would endometriosis bother it this bad?   I've had it removed once before and I know it's back...I FEEL it :(...  I just hate not knowing..and always wondering why, or what's wrong.  UGH!   Thank you both so much!  

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by stacey10, Jul 08, 2012
weell I def think that acupuncture would help regulate your cycles and would probably help with your endo as well, I would just go straight onto the maca as it nourishes the endochrine system, which your overies are part of so it will help with ovulation as well as the other things I mentioned above, I think the combination of acupucture and maca may help immensely, you may even get herbs from the acupucturist as well....  I bet when you had the two pos opk your cycle was longer?  I dont really agree with the stop testing thing once you get your first pos, as I get a pos then sometimes 2 days later I get a pos thats just sooo positive, darker than the control line, but the one 2 days earlier was still a pos, so I starting temping as well and sure enough it showed that I O'd after the blaringly dark pos, so if I had have stopped testing I wouldnt have realised that I actually was oing to ovulate for around 3-4 days later!! anyway I've gone abit off course I think, but yeah I can get 3-4 days of pos opks, but one is usually sooo much darker than the other... phew, you cant ake maca if your on clomid etc as thats an artifical hormone and maca will hnegate it :) any questions just ask me about it :)

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by Des_a_rae, Jul 08, 2012
Okay, looking back it was in 2010 when I was taking Clomid.   I took it from days 5-9 of my cycles and went like this..

CD1 Oct 23rd- 27th. + opk cd 17, cycle length = 31 days.

CD1 was Nov. 23rd- 27th.   +opk on cd 19, cycle length = 33 days.

CD1 December 26th - 30th.  + opk on cd 19, cyclen length = 31 days.  

Did clomid seem to help things at all?  

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by retta483, Jul 08, 2012
ive been taking vitex scence the last loss it seems to be helping with the spotting =) Id have all over the place periods before taking metformin  and now i still have some early some late but mostly they are 30 to 32 days .same thing happens to me with opks I really hate those things ! Good luck this cycle ! xx

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by Moma_Cher, Jul 08, 2012
Maybe you are missing your O dates more than you think which is DEFINITELY not what you want lol. I know you don't like to but maybe it's time to start temping again? At least around cd 13 till to see a sustained temp shift? I know it's a pain in the butt, but it's the oly way to be sure.

Hugs,

Cheri

790669 tn?1465189099
by Des_a_rae, Jul 08, 2012
Yeah, right after having lap for my endo and hysteroscopy for a polyp in my uterus, I started doing it all...Temping and testing, seeing the RE for blood work and follicle count..HSG..the works..  They were all matching.. then I got out of everything ( super long story) and now I just chart my cycles...  While I was temping and testing..seeing the RE everything was matching up with my ovulation..then it all just became weird again..  

1571146 tn?1399909692
by Moma_Cher, Jul 08, 2012
Clomid cycles were definitely more regular... Are you thinking of trying clomid again?

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by Des_a_rae, Jul 08, 2012
I honestly don't know what to think anymore.  The last time I saw the dr., he told me since my periods were ungodly painful... to talk to  DH and decide if I wanted to TRY again..OR  go ahead with something more aggressive to do away or whatever he has in his head of fixing my pain during AF.   Although, I question it at times, I'm leaning more towards fixing my pain. :(   It really does make me tear up thinking...I can't live the rest of my life like this anymore, hurting so bad, praying constantly for god to give me just one child..Help me conceive just one time and then I can fix it... I want to fix it sooo bad, but what if by some miracle I can get pregnant..and I mess it all up???    I don't know what to do anymore.  I'm just tired of hurting. Month after month and it's not just when I start..it's about a week before I'll start cramping really bad..lower stomach and lower back..and then about a day before I start all the way until about cd3  I just want to knock myself out.  I can't deal with that much pain.  If I TRY, I wind up throwing up from hurting so bad.. What do you do??  I've done this for 6 years..the hurting but hanging on to hope and praying that it will be my turn one day.  That dealing with this will be worth it...  when do I say enough is enough?  I hate feeling this way. :(    

I agree, for those 3 months my cycles were more regular, but is there something other than clomid I could take to make them regular.. and other than bcp (defeating the whole purpose there lol).  

1571146 tn?1399909692
by Moma_Cher, Jul 08, 2012
Stupid question, but I'll ask anyway... Do you take ibuprofen for the pain? I use 800mg every 4 hours for the worst 3 days which makes it pretty manageable. I know you are much worse off than me in the pain dept though. It did ease up a bit after the lap didn't it? Maybe it's time for another one... Even just to buy you some time.

1806883 tn?1458321004
by stacey10, Jul 08, 2012
like I said the maca will nourish your overies, when they are working properly you will ovulate normally, I have put a couple of ladies onto maca who couldnt ovulate by themselves and one who needed 150mg of clomid and she ovulated by herself for the first time ever, with your pain at period time, acupucture should be able to help with this also :)

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by Des_a_rae, Jul 08, 2012
Yeah, I've tried everything, unfortunately.  They've had me on that..motrin 800's, naproxen, naprosin...nothing and I mean NOTHING helps.  I would take so many tylenol's (which I know they're not the best to take) that I told my mom...I don't see them doing ANY good...they don't even phase the pain, so what's the point in taking so many that's not helping??  I've tried, hot baths, heating pads, I've even had 2 heating pads at once, one on my stomach and one on my back...  My blood pressure was up so bad one time from the pain my brother was threatening to take me to the ER because he noticed how red my face was..from hurting.  I tried not taking something to knock me out that day and it got so bad I had to.  The ER around here treats you like you're a pill seeker...they give you nothing..neither do the dr.'s. :(   I have hoped sooo many times that they would give me something stronger..maybe a 5 day supply for every month..I would even take it to be renewed once a month.. but no, they won't give you anything.  The most I got was the motrin 800's, when I plainly told them I could take 8 tylenols at a time and it wouldn't help :S  And believe me..I have a very low tolderance to medicine..I can't even take a half of a pain pill...like a lortab 5?  without being knocked out.. BUT that's what gets me through the pain!!  sleeping through it..I can feel myself dosing off and STILL hurting.. BUT since they won't give me anything like that I keep tylenol pm's around..just to knock myself out with :S     and yes..the lap helped sooo much when I first had it done...I felt great for 5 months and slowly the pain started returning.  I'm tempted to have another lap...it would be worth it..and you're right, buy me some time!!    

790669 tn?1465189099
by Des_a_rae, Jul 08, 2012
And Cher, your questions aren't stupid.  Thank YOU for helping!!

Thanks Stacey... Risa has mentioned this to me before...  I'm going to have to check it out!!    I'm desperate !!  Thank you also!!

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by Des_a_rae, Jul 09, 2012
I need something to nourish something.  :|   Not only is AF  always sooo painful, it's always soooo heavy!  

1386765 tn?1451164337
by pb95, Jul 09, 2012
I think the clomid did help.  That looked pretty regular.  I can't imagine what having this condition must be like, but I do know what it is like to want a child and have the pain in my heart.  What helps me is making a plan and seeing the end of what I think is all I can do.  Once I've crossed that time I will feel okay with closing the door.  You are still so young so make sure you are doing what it is you want.  I sense DH doesn't want it as much as you do (possibly because he can't stand to see you in pain?)?  I'd do everything I could but then accept the help and put yourself out of pain. You never know if DH's boys need a little help and one IUI could change everything for you in a minute.   I am a 100% believer in the acupuncture.  Only someone that has experience in Fertility though.  I am with my 3rd acupuncturist now and finally have someone that knows what they are doing.  She works not just my reproductive organs and hormone regulation, but my entire system.   I feel a change in my body immediately after I see her and throughout the month.  You are such a nurturer and natural mother that I really do see it working for you sometime.  I know it is a long road and wish it was easier for you!!

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by Des_a_rae, Jul 09, 2012
Thanks so much hun, I completely agree about the clomid, even if it was for just 3 months.  I do try to plan out everything, set goals and such, but I've failed at this.  I always told myself by 25 I'd be married, start having children blah blah blah.. I'm married to a wonderful man, but no child.  I have "fur"babies that are wonderful and I wouldn't take any amount of money in the world for them, but it's not the same :(.  This is where I'm at now.."the end and whether I should close the door or not".   I've never given up on anything in my life, but I feel torn, between my forever pain and a child that I might not ever have.
DH has always said that he's afraid.  He's sooo mad that they can't "fix" me without causing more problems and IF I ever became pregnant, he's always said.."what if something happens to you, or the both of you?"..so I know he's scared..he's unsure but so am I.
I need to start looking for an acupuncturist.  The city I live in is kinda small actually..but I'm going to look..hopefully I can find one close without having to go to a bigger city.  I hope I can find one that has experience in fertility!!   I'm sooo glad it's made a different for you, that gives me hope.  I've always felt helpless, like nothing I do helps or fixes anything but hopefully this will help and that's all that matters!  Thank you so much for your kind words!!  I really appreciate the friendships I've made here!!

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