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Nov 04, 2013 - 12 comments

I'm just curious.  Would we have a good chance with IUI?  I know you can't tell us for sure, but with Brian's sperm being the way they are, would that even be a consideration?   I don't know the circumstances that they  would suggest IUI.  

This IS never ending. :(
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by Sheaby, Nov 04, 2013
If his counts are that low, your chances aren't going to go up considerably to be honest.  For an IUI they have to do the wash, so low counts post-wash will be even lower.  IUI is more for female IF, if you have PCOS or Endo or something along those lines and MF isn't too much of an issue.

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by Des_a_rae, Nov 04, 2013
Okay tysm Sheaby!  I was just curious. His count, his motility and morphology is awful.  The urologists mentioned the IVF with ICSI and I guess I was just hoping for a cheaper solution. That's okay though, hopefully we'll get there soon. :)

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by Ellen038, Nov 04, 2013
I did many iui's before the 9 ivfs. I had some iui's about 10 yrs ago and then some before we started ivf without success. You pretty know all of our history Des, and even with a donor with an excellent count it didn't happen because of my issues. Knowing what I know now I would go directly to ivf. It would of saved us over 6 months time. For me time was more of an issues then the money. I always knew some how we would come up with the money. Just trying to give you my honest opinion. It is also a known fact that ivf has a better chance for success.

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by Ellen038, Nov 04, 2013
Des, I would be interested to know also if DH's count has gone up. That may influence your decision on maybe trying a couple iui's if they aren't too expensive.

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by Des_a_rae, Nov 04, 2013
Thank your Ellen, I appreciate the honesty  :)  I told Brian to check with work because we need to get him in this week  I'm curious also and I agree, it could help us in knowing what our options.  I'm completely with you. If IUI is an ify and they're more confident with IVF that's what I'd be going for for sure.  As of now its IVF with ICSI.  I'm praying Clomid has helped!!  Thank you again!!!

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by Des_a_rae, Nov 04, 2013
So many typos, lol. Stupid phone, ya'll know what I'm saying. :)

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by Ellen038, Nov 04, 2013
ICSI will be perfect with MFI wether his count is up or not. I know with DH they said if they could even get a few surgically it would be an option for us. In our case, iui's were pretty expensive and clomid was brutal for me to be on. As bad as the ivf meds affect me I would take them any day over clomid. Again my personal opinion and meds affect everyone differently. Your chances 35 and under are really good with ivf as far as age goes.  You are in a good age group for IVF. I was 36 and in that same age bracket when we started IVF and only sat out cycles my darn cysts kept me out or when I had to have more and more surgeries. The last several IVFs I was in a different age bracket and I started getting less and less eggs which was concerning to me. I was literally watching my fertility diminish I felt. Going down for 23 to 12. The sooner your able to start the process the better but of course there are so many more factors to consider too. I hope others give you their opinions too. If you ever want to know anything about our journey I am willing to share in hopes of saving you precious time and money.  I'm not sure how much testing you've had done yourself but maybe it would be a good idea to look in to some basic labs while your waiting. Whatever you diced it the labs will def help you figure out what you may need to adjust for success!

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by Ellen038, Nov 04, 2013
* decide not diced....I have a dumb phone too lol

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by Des_a_rae, Nov 04, 2013
[email protected] dumb phone to.  

Ellen, I have always appreciated your help and honesty. :)   I hate that you and many other wonderufl ladies on here have had to travel the long hard road, but the advice is way better coming from someone that's been there.    I will be turning 35 in Jan. so I guess that's a good thing.  I was always worried about being older but just 2 years ago ( and I know time changes things) they were doing lots of test before I had my surgery in B'ham at the fertility clinic and things went well.   The RE said he sees no reason why I couldn't get pregnant and go on to have a healthy baby.   I have seriously considered making another appointment just to see what's going on, get recent tests done instead of going by what the old ones said and things like that.  Maybe get my regular gyno to do those here?  and then when we're closer to IVF go to B'ham and see how things are then.  Every test I had was great the only thing he said he wanted 'better' was my progesterone after O day.  BUT the only reason I think mine was lower was because I had just got my + opk 2   days before ( I ovulated later because of clomid) so I don't think it had enough time to rise and it was only a 9 and he said he wanted it above 15.  He put me on progesterone and within a week I was up to a 16.  But like I said..on my CD21 test, it was only a 9 and that was because I had just got my + opk 2 days before.  I think that played a huge part.  Do you think so?     I cant' wait to get this ball rolling again.  I haven't felt this hopeful in a long time. :)  

Thank you so much again! :)

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by Ellen038, Nov 04, 2013
I think progesterone would be an easy fix since your put on progesterone along with estrogen, baby aspirin and ( other meds if you have other conditions) after egg recovery. I was on those pluse Lovenox and prednisone until 13 weeks. I was put back on progesterone last week so I'm guessing it must be ok into the second tri too. Maybe test things like thyroid and thyroid antibodies, NK cells and try metholated folate in case you have MTHFR which some say can cause repeat losses, I would think you may need another HSG because of the time that's lapsed unless they did chromotubation during your surgery which is basically the same procedure as HSG but done during surgery. I have had chromobutubation twice and an HSG. My mind is blanking out right now on other labs that you could ask to have repeated. Some of the labs aren't covered by insurance so make sure you look into them beforehand. Having tests before IVF will help insure better success. Sorry I don't mean to monopolize your journal. I can feel myself becoming obsessive.

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by TTC2006, Nov 04, 2013
If it were just one issue, motility, morphology or count, I would say give IUI a chance. Morphology was our main issue, and I did get pg three times from IUI.  Unfortunately, with my issues included, we lost those pg's and one to a fluke ectopic.  In the end,even with morph numbers ranging from 0-2%, we ended up with a natural pg although it took 7 years of hitting nearly every single fertile time.  

With a triple whammy like you guys are dealing with, I'd say to go straight for ICSI IVF, especially while age is still on your side.  

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by Des_a_rae, Nov 04, 2013
Thank you Ellen, I was thinking the same about the HSG also.  Even though mine was good the first time, I've had a surgery since then.  They did not do this during my last surgery so best to do it again.  I'm not familiar with all these labs so knowing before hand helps  bunch. :)   You're not monopolizing my journal, all info and help is appreciated!! :D

Thank you TTC..I agree.  That's what I was thinking..out of all those 3 none of them are on our side lol.  It's all bad :(  Well POOR I should say.  At least that's what the paper said.    It's amazing how you ended up pregnant naturally, how wonderful!! :)   Ugh, we're going on 9 years ourselves, but I was just (eh if it happens, it happens) for the first 2 or 3..then I buckled down and started trying.  I just hope we get some good news on this repeat SA.  

Thank you both again! :D

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