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Jun 05, 2009 - 16 comments

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I have had some small encouragement this week in the whole School Resource Officer (SRO) saga.  I went to my Wed. body sculpt class (6/3/09) and the instructor, Candy asked me if anything new was going on since we had last talked.  I told her about my having gone to see the DA, to no avail.  I also told her that I went to see the SRO’s supervisor, the Lt., at the Police Department (PD).  I told her how defensive the Lt. was about the SRO and how he said that I am the ONLY parent who has complained about the officer.  What a shame, because the more people I talk to, the more I hear, “I don’t like him [his name is used here]”.  The ONLY person who seems to like him is his boss.

Last Friday, May 28, when I came home from the VERY frustrating meeting with the SRO’s boss, I wrote an e-mail to the school district superintendent.  In the message, I told him about the incident where two female students wrote a list of 68 ways they were going to KILL another student.  I received a response from the superintendent on Tuesday, June 2, saying that “there are a large number of variables with each and every situation like this and after being informed, I am comfortable with how it was handled.”  HUH????  This is THE GUY who I quoted from the newspaper when I wrote to him as having said, “The school pursues prosecution and expulsion even in the case of pranks, hoaxes or impulsive venting of emotions.”  He was quoted as having said that after a student at a different junior high school made a list of 18 students he was going to “hit/kill”.

After getting that message from the superintendent, being turned away from the DA, and the “almost” fight with the SRO’s boss - because the SRO is *so* wonderful, I felt like quitting.  I knew I was NOT going to, but like Peggy and Barb said in their comments to me, I knew I was going to *have* to regroup, rethink, and renew.  I was really praying and asking if I should actually QUIT altogether or regather my strength and hit the ground running when I was up to the battle.

Kind of like the last time when I was asking God a similar question, I feel I got my answer.  As I was saying, when I went to the class at the Y this past Wed., the instructor, Candy, wasn’t only interested in what was going on for the sake of gossip.  Her daughter will be attending the same junior high school within the next year or two.  At the elementary school where her dau now attends school, there is a program called Police Academy, and this SRO is involved in that program.  Candy has already seen enough to know she doesn’t like him.  Not only does SHE not like him, she said there is another mom who is a private detective who doesn’t like him.  This lady wants to talk to *ME*.  Candy took my phone number in order to give it to her private detective friend.  I haven’t heard from her yet, but perhaps I will over the weekend.  I am encouraged.

But wait!  There’s more.  While Candy and I were talking, a mutual friend of ours was also standing there.  She, of course, got interested in the topic of our conversation.  Candy started asking me to fill her in by saying things like, “Tell Mary about the alcohol!”  So, I’d tell Mary that nice little piece of information.  After THAT incident, Candy said, “You DO know that Mary’s husband is an attorney, don’t you?”  I said, “No, I did NOT.  What kind of attorney IS he, Mary?”  She told me he worked all kinds of cases, but this was CERTAINLY within his realm.

Then, Candy prompted me to tell Mary even MORE stuff.  By the time I got finished, Mary said that I *HAD* to call Mike, her husband.  We stepped into an office and she wrote down his office phone number.  She said that if nothing else, the first consultation is free and he can help us to get started.  I had told her that I had already made up my mind that *IF* I get an attorney, I wanted someone out of town.  I have already figured out (DUH!) that in this small town, I am banging my head up against a wall.

Later that day, I received an e-mail from Mary.  She was so convinced by all that she heard from me that day - and from some stuff that Candy told her that I did NOT hear - that she stopped by her husbands law office.  She filled him in on what she could remember.  HE WANTS TO SEE ME.  Her words were, “He’s already on your side.”  Huh.  I am reluctant to call him because I know I only get ONE FREE visit and I have MUCH WORK to do.  But, the way I look at it, I did not go looking for this....it came looking for me.

I just wanted to give you guys an update.  Thanks for hanging with me.  I appreciate all your GOOD ADVICE so much.  You guys are so smart!!!  Maybe it will rub off on me...

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by margypops, Jun 05, 2009
Dont know about the smart... I have a good gut and a lot of perception, actually I have met some really bright. intelligent folks on MH even the very Liberal ones LOL  You sre one heck of a fighter, I admire that a lot, thank you for his picture now I have something to mentally throw daggers at, they are sticking together ,school suprintendant/SROs boss . I dont see this as purely personal for you I see the big picture that this idiot will continue with his behavior if not stopped, no I am not talking politics here, although I could have been with those words.....Bash on Twe..

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by twehner5, Jun 05, 2009
Throw all the daggers you want!!!

You won't believe what I just heard on our local, noon news.  If I can word this well, I believe I might be able to get YOU GUYS as frustrated as this made me!  First, let me say that I am NOT saying that I don't care about dogs.  I have a 5-month-old Sheltie that I can't wait to see every morning when I get up, okay???  Please hear the DEEPER meaning in what I *AM* saying!  I don't want the PETA people breathing down on me - LOL !

Here goes:  Earlier this week, there was a hit-and-run.  Someone hit and killed a dog, but didn't stop to report it.  *NOW*, our illustrious PD is all up in arms about it.  (THIS IS THE PART *NOT* TO HANG ME FOR...ARE YOU WITH ME?)  Now, I would NOT know that it is ILLEGAL not to report this.  IT WAS OUT IN THE COUNTRY, BUT EVIDENTLY, STILL WITHIN CITY LIMITS.  They are saying that because they *think* there must be more than $1,000 worth of damage to the vehicle, the person *HAS* to report it.  DON'T GET ME WRONG - COMMON COURTESY SAYS, BY ALL MEANS, TRY TO FIND THE OWNER!!!!  I'm just saying, I had no idea that it was a law to report that you hit a dog!!!!  Did you???  I am also saying that the same PD that thinks the SRO is *wonderful* thinks this is a "heinous" crime!!!  They are searching for the owner of this vehicle.  They know from car parts the year and make and color of the vehicle.  They've spent more time investigating the death of this poor dog than trying to find out if this SRO is REALLY bullying my dau.!!!!

Follow me here:  A *COP*, a School Resource Officer, no less, can tell kids how to extract alcohol from rubbing alcohol AND GET BY WITH IT!!!!  I don't hear the PD up in arms about THAT!!!  A COP can let two kids get by with making a list of 68 ways to KILL ANOTHER KID, and nothing gets done, when a child at another school got EXPELLED  and is being PROSECUTED for making a list of 18 kids HE wanted to "hit/kill".   WHAT'S UP WITH THIS TOWN????

I better go eat.  Maybe my blood-sugar is low!  My "dander" sure is UP!!!!

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by Barb135, Jun 05, 2009
I sure hope you will call this attorney and see what options are open to you.  I agree that this idiot MUST be stopped.  

The thing with the dogs ---- now don't get ME wrong, either, okay??  I think what the PD is saying is that the reason the driver is REQUIRED to report this is because they (PD) are assuming that there was at least $1000 damage to the vehicle and in most states, any accident with more than $500 damage (I'm pretty sure that's the right figure) is required to be reported.  Other than that, I would NOT know there was any law about reporting it if you hit a dog; although you are absolutely correct that common courtesy says you should try to find the owner and let them know.  AND, I think it's also considered "cruelty to animals" if you leave an animal dying along side of the road.  No, I'm not involved in PETA.  

All that said, it does seem that the PD might have their priorities just a bit off kilter....  It's okay for an SRO to harass and discriminate against a teenage girl, but they are going to "hunt down and prosecute someone for hurting a dog" - no, I don't want anyone jumping on me either - I AM a dog lover; I have 2 of them and would be devastated if anything happened to either of them.  

Yep, I think the PD needs to *rethink* their priorities - or at least give the 2 incidences equal consideration.........

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by Barb135, Jun 05, 2009
I hadn't looked at the pic very close to begin with - is that a bullet proof vest he's wearing?

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by twehner5, Jun 05, 2009
Yeah!  Isn't that just a hoot???  It's a Memorial Day parade!!!  He's a dumb, goof-ball.  Thanks for pointing that out.

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by Barb135, Jun 05, 2009
Hmmm - maybe he thought there was a need for it?  lol.  Or maybe he thought it made him look like a REAL cop, instead of a scumbag that bullies junior high girls..    

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by margypops, Jun 05, 2009
Well you didnt do it did you, I do agree that if an animal is hit and not killed it should be looked after but as this one is a goner I agree with you,it was too late to help the poor dog, ,  I have always thought you were supposed to report it so they can notify the owners. Why did he wear a bullet proof jacket to a Parade have you got some terrorist looking' guys where you live...well he looks a bit swarthy come to think of it....That is what makes me mad he told young giirls of 'Impressionable' age how to extract alcohol from rubbing alcohol wonder how he knows that? It does sound as if they dont want to go there I wonder if it is opening a Pandoras Box, just a thought.

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by Barb135, Jun 05, 2009
Margy - what's this about "swarthy" - hmmm - not thinking "attractive" are you??  lol  Somehow, I'm guessing that's what HE is thinking.  Seriously, *I* think he just wants to look like a REAL cop, not a bully of junior high girls.  Looks like THEY might be the only ones he can get the best of , but he'd better be careful, cuz Megan has a "mama bear" who might be a cute little thing, but she's tenacious as all get out....  

Anyway - I agree the dog was a gonner, so let's quit worrying about IT and START worrying about these children that this pervert is mingling amongst every day.  

I go back to what I said earlier - the PD might need to *rethink* their priorities.........

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by margypops, Jun 05, 2009
No Swarthy as in terrorist looking swarthy ,(evil)  I cant say it here it would be politically incorrect...trust me. Yes I expect he does like to think the girls are impressed with him hence the cheeky ,familiar chatting he does with them..I have seen men do that with girls, what I dont like is the stuff he is saying to them ,he goes beyond what is okay..Yup Mama BEar is a fighter hope I would be also in her place.

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by twehner5, Jun 05, 2009
I think that the SRO knew you loyal friends would want to throw daggers at him.  He wore the bullet/dagger-proof vest to fend off Margy's daggers!  

My daughter has the misfortune of seeing Mr. Swarthy tonight.  The last school dance of the year is starting right about now.  She got ready with a bunch of friends, so I didn't get to see the stunning finished product.  I loaned her my camera and told her that if she loses it, I'll "lose her birth certificate"!  LOL!  Do you think she believed me?  I just wish Barney Fife wasn't going to be there...  You know it's funny, but most of the kids at Megan's school joke that they don't even think he carries a real gun!  If he only knew the things they say about him, he wouldn't be HALF as cocky as he is!!!

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by peggy64, Jun 06, 2009
ALL RIGHT NOW!!! Don't insult Barney like that!!!

I am glad things are rolling in the right direction now. I told you a lawyer would have to get involved and I am so glad you had one to just appear in your lap this way.  What a blessing.


This PD needs some revamping for sure. We are after who hit a dog, but will overlook an officer harrassing children. Hopefully, this will make national news!! Maybe the lawyer can get that part out and give them some much needed publicity.

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by twehner5, Jun 08, 2009
Thanks, Peggy, for correcting me.  Of course, you are correct!!!!  Barney, I am SORRY!  You do NOT deserve that insult.  


BUT, I heard something interesting today.  The instructor at the Y knows one of the officers at the PD *and* a state trooper.  She told me that she was planning on asking them the next time she sees them what they think of the SRO.  

FUNNY ENOUGH!  They must have already been in the Y when she told me this, but she and I arrived at the same time and didn't realize they were there.  Before the class even started that I was there for today, she called me over and couldn't wait to tell me what THEY told her!  

The police officer told her rather reluctantly, AND he said that he SHOULDN'T be telling her "this".  What he told her is that Officer "Johnson" (name changed to protect the GUILTY!) is "known to like the girls and be a flirt."

What kills me about this is that officers within the PD know about his antics, but his superiors cover it up.  *I* get the version of, "But do you know how many kids he's helped???"  It makes me sick!  It makes me angry.  IT MAKES ME WANT TO FIGHT!!!!  

The state trooper told her that she should tell my dau to carry a tape recorder and record any and all of what he EVER says to her and eventually take it to the PD, the DA, & to an attorney.  I'm not sure THAT would work, because my dau completely ignores him now.  He glares at her, according to her friends, when she walks by.  Yeah.  He's very mature.  (He's 47 or 48!)


*THEN* today at school, Megan and her friends heard Officer Johnson, the SRO, ask the Ass't Principal (AP) if he had seen a girl who was at the dance on Friday evening.  He said, about the girl, "Didn't she look GOOD in that dress?"  Megan and her friends about had a cow!  They couldn't believe not only that they heard that, but that he'd say that in the presence of students............

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by Barb135, Jun 09, 2009
I sure as heck hope SOMEONE is documenting this stuff -----------  

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by peggy64, Jun 09, 2009
That explains todays generation, when they have "those" types in authority. God help us!!

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by twehner5, Jun 09, 2009
Oh!  I'm further behind Square One than I thought.  I talked to the attorney's wife today at the Y.  She asked me if I had called her husband yet and I said I had NOT called him.  She again encouraged me to do so, and I assured her that I definitely WILL.  I've just been trying to decide WHEN to call him.

Knowing that I get ONE free visit, of course I want to make the best of it.  I told her I thought that I'd try to speak to a parent FIRST who might also have issues with the SRO.  

She said that the only thing her husband had said so far is that he hoped I had a paper trail.  I told her that once I saw that things were "getting no better fast", I started handling things via e-mail as much as possible.  I quit making phone calls.  She THEN told me that her husband does NOT like e-mails.  He wants to see certified letters - e-mails are weak, at best, if this WOULD ever come to a court case.  

Uh-oh.  Then I have nothing.  I felt like she had punched me.  I quickly recovered.  After a split second, I told her that what I could do is send the PD a certified letter (return receipt requested) as a follow-up to our meeting we had on May 21.  In the letter, I would "re-hash" all the high-points that I brought out at the meeting about the SRO.  In this way, I would be documenting that I *did* make them aware of the SRO's actions and on what date I did it.  I will go back and re-read the very first journal about all this (When the BULLY is a COP) and read the points I told YOU guys that I brought up as a reminder.

That got me to thinking....I could also do a certified letter (RRR) to the Superintendent about the "69 ways to Kill".  Remember, he recently completely blew off that situation, even though THAT is a serious offense.  On this one, I might consider a Cc: to the newspaper.  OR, I could inform the superintendent that my next step WILL be to Cc: the newspaper...

THEN I thought that I might send a THIRD letter to the principal at my dau's school, the superintendent, AND the PD and outline my reasons why *I* think the SRO is bullying my dau.  While I am painfully aware that this is hard to prove, I have to start the paper trail someplace, right?  

I feel better just planning all this!  BUT, tomorrow my parents arrive for a month-long visit.  I plan to find a balance between thoroughly enjoying them and NOT letting this very important business fall through the cracks.  I haven't even told them about this because it started out soooo subtly and then suddenly snowballed.  I will have a hard time explaining it to them.  They don't get "bullying" or "harassing".  They are without a doubt "doormats".  So, wish me luck!  Perhaps they will feel differently about their granddaughter.

When I go see the attorney, I will ask him if ANY of these letters are a good idea.  I am glad to have his interest.  I don't want to let too much time go by without contacting him.  It's just been so busy.  I have 3 days of work left - and the children are acting a bit "wooley", so I CAN'T WAIT TO BE FINISHED!!!!!

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by margypops, Jun 10, 2009
So where do you get your determination from ,good job for your kids that you do,  yes I wish you luck you will need all the paperwork you can get from the sound of the conversation you had with the attorneys wife. If you send certified mail you can almost be guaranteed a response and answers to your rehashed high points from the meeting on May21. I guess when you see the attorney he will tell you if it is a good idea to start the paper trail now, I hope he has good positive feedback for you. Have a good time with the Family ...

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