OK! OK! It is the Hubs and yes ricart it looks like it..Not sure of the length..We have many..I do use one..Yes honestly, but it is a bit smaller..OK The truth be told..Now I feel a big weight off of me...Ha!!! Also I have a great big mull/ax..I do use it too..We finally got a big Wood Splitter..That makes splitting and stacking easy..Any one can come over and HELP..Got to get at least 6-8 cords in...Ekkkkkk This will get your Brain Chems going....lol