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1388999 tn?1370042814

Face Lift or not that is the question.???

Hello.... you might find this an unusual question but I have this lovely Clumber Oscar !  he has a problem with his sight.My Vet suggested I give him a face lift as he has  quite loose skin on his head and  because of that he has a heavy brow which intrudes a bit over his eyes so he has trouble seeing sometimes.

What my Vet wants to do is  to cut a strip of flesh  off his head and pull everything up and away from his eyes so he can see better.Another Vet said not to do it  ! so that is where I am at,When I pull back the folds from his face these two big eyes are looking at me they seem to double in size.I do not know what to do as he is a happy healthy dog but if it would improve his sight maybe I should.Or should I let sleeping dogs lay.  

There is a photo of him sitting   in an armchair on my profile page.Put a cigar in his mouth and there is Winston Churchill.

Looking at Oscar sometimes I bet I know how the Clumbers  evolved..... they bred an English Cocker spaniel
with British Bulldog or a Bull mastiff as Oscar has the same size body as my Golden Retriever and he is a good
size fellow.

   Thank you  for  your time sincerely       Joan.

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1388999 tn?1370042814
Hello thank you for replying,   I am going  to chatter on a bit so only read if you are interested and have  time.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Well Oscar has no skin probs or deep folds just extra flesh and skin he is a sturdy fellow about 4 kilo's overweight and about a kilo of that is in the head area so the extra skin is quite firm.His Paws are huge his Ears are thick as is his Tail...A big dog with short thick legs.He was born with hip dysplasia  had the nerves cut! a complete success 5yrs ago.He talks nonstop ....well its more like a gurgle in different tones and he rubs his body against me like a cat ,he loves all animals and squeaky toys, the louder the better.He looms large in our lives he is very special.He adores our gentle pack leader Shane a Golden Retriever and Maybelle another Clumber.I have never ever had three dogs that get on so well, never a growl all eat slowly close together in the kitchen.Curl up together when asleep .
I am so blessed as they love and look after me.Well I let them think that lol.


I will have a Chat to Peter Bartrem
my Vet he is a good surgeon he did the op for Oscars hips.
I have emailed you a pic of him.Oscar that is.

Thank You so much for your valuable time I really appreciate it.
                                                                                        sincerely Joan.
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MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Dear seeana,

There is no one I respect and admire more than Winston Churchill. If Oscar looks like him, I salute you!

That said it is not uncommon to consider 'adjusting' redundant skin, if it causes problems.
Deep skin folds cause chronic bacteria and yeast infections in those folds, in some dogs.
Sometimes skin folds, or the hairs that project from them, will be in frequent or constant contact with the cornea of the eye, leading to pain, ulceration and eye injury. Folds in other areas also cause  a variety fo problems.

In this case you indicate the folds are obstructing his vision. Unless he is walking into things (risking injury, particularly eye injury) it is a judgment call whether skin fold resection should be considered more cosmetic than therapeutic. That said, there is nothing unethical or inappropriate abut considering it. If you think Oscar will have a better quality of life with his vision more unobstructed, then it is reasonable to have it done. You may be surprised at how much more playful and apparently happy he is once he can see more easily.

Do ask you doctor how often he/she has done similar procedures and about the precautions that will be taken to make anesthesia safe. The procedure is not particularly risky however a safely conducted anesthesia and good tissue handling skills will give the best result. If still in doubt, consult a specialist surgeon in your area.

Good luck and send us a picture of Oscar!

Dr G
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