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Where are the dead?
Do you believe our loved ones that have passed that were believers are asleep or in heaven?
Seahorse, I pray you don't leave here. We are all human and have different personalities and may see things differently or worship God differently but we're all important to God because we're all the body of Christ. We need each other. We need to pray for each other. Even in bible times believers sometimes quaralled among themselves and Paul would remind them that we're all followers of Christ and that's really all that matters.
We have so many denominations who interpret the bible in so many ways. It's fascinating how people can look at the same scripture in a different way. That's why I said it's it's important that we pray first before reading God's Word and asking Him to show us what He wants us to get from that scripture.
God's ways and thoughts are higher than our ways and thoughts and we'll never completely understand everything until we are face to face with Him. Paul says right now we're "looking into a mirror darkly". We only understand some things for now.
I can only imagine the wonder of that day when we see the Lord and see Heaven. I think we aren't even going to be able to imagine what's in store for us! I think it will take our breath away, don't you? I think of that song "I can only imagine" and wonder, like the artist, how I will act that day I see Jesus. Will I fall on my knees? Will I be able to even speak? I can only imagine!
We have so many denominations who interpret the bible in so many ways. It's fascinating how people can look at the same scripture in a different way. That's why I said it's it's important that we pray first before reading God's Word and asking Him to show us what He wants us to get from that scripture.
God's ways and thoughts are higher than our ways and thoughts and we'll never completely understand everything until we are face to face with Him. Paul says right now we're "looking into a mirror darkly". We only understand some things for now.
I can only imagine the wonder of that day when we see the Lord and see Heaven. I think we aren't even going to be able to imagine what's in store for us! I think it will take our breath away, don't you? I think of that song "I can only imagine" and wonder, like the artist, how I will act that day I see Jesus. Will I fall on my knees? Will I be able to even speak? I can only imagine!
The bible is one, but many false interpretations.
Yes, that is the verses..(and now I remember why I don't come here thanks for the reminder)..if Gods people aruge what message does that send unbleilvers..I also stated that I wans't on my game..I strongly believe in Abrahams boosom..but if you read Gen. 1 God (in the plural) created the heavenS and earth...no beliver in Christ is dead..the same Power that raised Christ from the dead Lives in Me...Greater is He Who Lives in me than he who is in the world...be Blessed <3 in fact I'm already Alive in Christ so my Salvation starts when I made Him Lord of my Life, why would anyone think different?
Yes I know there are a few in heaven right now the 24 elders. these ‘Elders’ are human
beings that God has taken to heaven ahead of time to help with the judgment.
We don’t know their names, but when Jesus rose from the dead, He raised a lot of people at that time, and when He went to heaven to continue His work for us there, He took these ones with Him. (Matthew 27:52, 53)
The bible says they thank God for redeeming them from earth. (Revelation 5:9) They would have to be set apart and holy in order for them to be taken to heaven. So they must be part of the priesthood. Who knows.. but it's fun to think of these things..perhaps Enoch, Moses and Eli?
Anyways apart from the 24 elders no one else is in heaven. We just await Jesus when he returns and there is no sadness in that because Jesus remembers those who were faithful. If it was a bad thing why would the ending of that bible text 1Thessalonians 4:18 say, "Therefore encourage each other with these words."?
beings that God has taken to heaven ahead of time to help with the judgment.
We don’t know their names, but when Jesus rose from the dead, He raised a lot of people at that time, and when He went to heaven to continue His work for us there, He took these ones with Him. (Matthew 27:52, 53)
The bible says they thank God for redeeming them from earth. (Revelation 5:9) They would have to be set apart and holy in order for them to be taken to heaven. So they must be part of the priesthood. Who knows.. but it's fun to think of these things..perhaps Enoch, Moses and Eli?
Anyways apart from the 24 elders no one else is in heaven. We just await Jesus when he returns and there is no sadness in that because Jesus remembers those who were faithful. If it was a bad thing why would the ending of that bible text 1Thessalonians 4:18 say, "Therefore encourage each other with these words."?
Seahorse, I think you mean Romans 8:38-39, am I right? I love that one too!
"For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."
All of this is very interesting and there have been some very interesting comments on here. Let's please not argue or quarrel. I know we are passionate people but we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
I think the bible can be rather confusing at times. I think that's why it's important to always pray and ask God for discernment and wisdom before reading His Word and asking Him to show us what He wants us to learn for that day. We may not understand everything until we meet Him face to face but I think He's more interested in our hearts and growing our faith than anything else.
I agree that those who lived in the Old Testament times had to use an animal sacrifice to cleanse their sins (it was a reflection of what Jesus would eventually do) and that was acceptable to God so I do believe that all who lived in that time who obeyed God is with Him in Heaven.
There are scriptures that suggest we "sleep" until Christ's return but there are also some that seem to suggest we go straight to Him so it can be hard to understand.
One thing I think about is when Jesus was in the Garden of Gethsemane and Elijah and Moses came to speak to Him. Where did they come from? It would appear Heaven.
Also, the bible talks about a great witness watching us and cheering us on in our race here on Earth. Who are these witnesses? Some believe they are the Patriarchs, like Moses, Abraham, Elijah, etc. I don't know.
I know Revelations gets real confusing too as it's so symbolic but I know that if I place my faith in God and His son, Jesus, as my Lord and Savior that He will lead me and guide me into the truth when He sees fit.
We are all on this walk, this journey together, learning and growing, and I hope we will continue to until the day we do meet Jesus face to face. God bless us all and may He continue to teach, guide, forgive and bless us all our days.
Peace and grace to us all, April
"For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."
All of this is very interesting and there have been some very interesting comments on here. Let's please not argue or quarrel. I know we are passionate people but we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
I think the bible can be rather confusing at times. I think that's why it's important to always pray and ask God for discernment and wisdom before reading His Word and asking Him to show us what He wants us to learn for that day. We may not understand everything until we meet Him face to face but I think He's more interested in our hearts and growing our faith than anything else.
I agree that those who lived in the Old Testament times had to use an animal sacrifice to cleanse their sins (it was a reflection of what Jesus would eventually do) and that was acceptable to God so I do believe that all who lived in that time who obeyed God is with Him in Heaven.
There are scriptures that suggest we "sleep" until Christ's return but there are also some that seem to suggest we go straight to Him so it can be hard to understand.
One thing I think about is when Jesus was in the Garden of Gethsemane and Elijah and Moses came to speak to Him. Where did they come from? It would appear Heaven.
Also, the bible talks about a great witness watching us and cheering us on in our race here on Earth. Who are these witnesses? Some believe they are the Patriarchs, like Moses, Abraham, Elijah, etc. I don't know.
I know Revelations gets real confusing too as it's so symbolic but I know that if I place my faith in God and His son, Jesus, as my Lord and Savior that He will lead me and guide me into the truth when He sees fit.
We are all on this walk, this journey together, learning and growing, and I hope we will continue to until the day we do meet Jesus face to face. God bless us all and may He continue to teach, guide, forgive and bless us all our days.
Peace and grace to us all, April
Wow is that so. ok good.
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