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MOST ADMIRED MAN AND WOMAN OF 2009
FROM USATODAY/GALLUP
Most admired Man of 2009
1. Barack Obama -- 30 percent
2. George W. Bush -- 4 percent
3. Nelson Mandela -- 3 percent
4. Glenn Beck -- 2 percent
5. Pope Benedict XVI -- 2 percent
6. Rev. Billy Graham -- 2 percent
7. Bill Gates -- 2 percent
8. John McCain -- 1 percent
9. George H.W. Bush -- 1 percent
10. (tie) Bill Clinton -- 1 percent
10. (tie) Tiger Woods -- 1 percent
Most Admired Woman of 2009
1. Hillary Clinton -- 16 percent
2. Sarah Palin -- 15 percent
3. Oprah Winfrey -- 8 percent
4. Michelle Obama -- 7 percent
5. Condoleeza Rice -- 2 percent
6. Queen Elizabeth II -- 2 percent
7. (tie) Margaret Thatcher -- 1 percent
8. (tie) Maya Angelou -- 1 percent
9. (tie) Angela Merkel -- 1 percent
10. (tie) Elin Nordegren Woods -- 1 percent
Who would you choose?
Thank you RJ I actually printed out the Principle analysis and I put up the link so folks can see it ...
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release December 17, 2009 Executive Order -- Amending Executive Order 12425
EXECUTIVE ORDER
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AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER 12425 DESIGNATING INTERPOL
AS A PUBLIC INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION ENTITLED TO
ENJOY CERTAIN PRIVILEGES, EXEMPTIONS, AND IMMUNITIES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.
BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE,
December 16, 2009
I will pull the previous one to compare as the one before had limitations and we gave them no rights accept what was accepted through Congress and kept the ability to end the Order.
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release December 17, 2009 Executive Order -- Amending Executive Order 12425
EXECUTIVE ORDER
- - - - - - -
AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER 12425 DESIGNATING INTERPOL
AS A PUBLIC INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION ENTITLED TO
ENJOY CERTAIN PRIVILEGES, EXEMPTIONS, AND IMMUNITIES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.
BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE,
December 16, 2009
I will pull the previous one to compare as the one before had limitations and we gave them no rights accept what was accepted through Congress and kept the ability to end the Order.
The problem with Reagan is he didn't live up to his words in that the national debt spiraled out of control when he was president. That does not take back the fact that Obama is continuing to have poor economic policies that contribute to it as well. Its just that during the Reagan administration there was no specific downsizing of the government and steps to take a reduction in the national debt that succeeded. Any leader of any kind has to live up to their speeches and ideas. For that very same reason I do not feel Obama deserved the nobel prize because he has not taken any action that he should be praised for and I do believe it was condescending. I would support the reduction of unneccessary levels of government control. I just haven't seen it happen yet and I had been aware of what was going on in the media since I was young and I do remember the events of the Reagan administration and the debt spiraling out of control. I believe the only president who succeeded in reducing the national deficit was Clinton and that may have been because it was during a time of economic prosperity.
Yes, I do. Since you liked that one, you'll like this "Ronnie"...
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.' "
Yeah...that's NOT who *I* want "helping" me with healthcare...the government? Have you seen the difference between the US hospital in Haiti and the Israeli's hospital??? WOW! They have, what, 7.5 million people and they can send THAT kind of technology... We should be embarrassed. The government SURE cannot handle our healthcare! Can't even handle medicaid...
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.' "
Yeah...that's NOT who *I* want "helping" me with healthcare...the government? Have you seen the difference between the US hospital in Haiti and the Israeli's hospital??? WOW! They have, what, 7.5 million people and they can send THAT kind of technology... We should be embarrassed. The government SURE cannot handle our healthcare! Can't even handle medicaid...
Ohhh thats good Twe, Dont you just love Ronnie.....
The trouble with our liberal friends is NOT that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so. ~Ronald Reagan
For other perspectives about this matter...http://threatswatch.org/analysis/2009/12/print/wither_sovereignty/
Obama's executive order is a great step towards fighting the war on terrorism, along with many other crimes that cross international boarders. There are, among the 188 countries that are members of Interpol, many that are not US friendly and do not allow or make easy our federal agencies freedom to move about and gather info. These privileges have been given to Interpol by all these 188 countries. These countries request the assistance of Interpol in watching and tracking terrorists and other criminals. Interpol works closely with each countries individual police agency. If a international criminal is located, Interpol works with the police agency to arrest and extradite the criminal to the country of the originating warrant.
There is not now, nor – as the result of this EO – will there be, an “international police” entity with the ability or authority to “break into an American citizen’s house without a warrant .”
Individual agencies within the EU use INTERPOL data to help them do their jobs. Those individual agencies do the arrests solely within their own jurisdictions
Interpol would in almost no case need to act unilaterally in the US. They would rely on our federal law enforcement agencies to do arrests, etc, much as has been the case with the pursuit of Terrorists, drug dealers, human smuggling, kidnappings and kiddie pornographers in Europe and elsewhere. If Obama had turned over ownership of major law enforcement activities to Interpol, there would be grounds to be angry. I think that, instead, what Obama is doing is creating an environment in which Interpol can operate alongside our federal agencies with the same degree of support as Interpol gets elsewhere. Interpol does not have the resources or size to be any sort of threat to the US. They’ll probably continue to rely hugely on domestic law enforcement here, which is some of the best in the world on the federal level, aside from enforcement against white collar criminals
There is not now, nor – as the result of this EO – will there be, an “international police” entity with the ability or authority to “break into an American citizen’s house without a warrant .”
Individual agencies within the EU use INTERPOL data to help them do their jobs. Those individual agencies do the arrests solely within their own jurisdictions
Interpol would in almost no case need to act unilaterally in the US. They would rely on our federal law enforcement agencies to do arrests, etc, much as has been the case with the pursuit of Terrorists, drug dealers, human smuggling, kidnappings and kiddie pornographers in Europe and elsewhere. If Obama had turned over ownership of major law enforcement activities to Interpol, there would be grounds to be angry. I think that, instead, what Obama is doing is creating an environment in which Interpol can operate alongside our federal agencies with the same degree of support as Interpol gets elsewhere. Interpol does not have the resources or size to be any sort of threat to the US. They’ll probably continue to rely hugely on domestic law enforcement here, which is some of the best in the world on the federal level, aside from enforcement against white collar criminals
I do look for the facts in a non-biased midia. I don't listen conspericy thery extremists like the "romanticpoet.wordpress", where you get your info from..
Here's more FACTS...............
Interpol Realism
David Kopel • January 15, 2010 12:55 pm
Over the past few weeks, there has been a lot of concern in some quarters about President Obama’s Executive Order extending certain legal immunities to Interpol. These concerns are misplaced. I am currently writing a research paper on Interpol, which will cover the immunities, and many other issues. In the meantime, some preliminary clarifications:
Interpol has no authority to make arrests or seize property. Interpol is purely an organization for data exchange and analysis. Interpol employees in the United States (or anywhere else) have no authority to conduct any activities except as allowed by the host government. The Obama Executive Order adds nothing to Interpol’s non-existent law enforcement authority.
Interpol’s entire US presence consists of a five-person office in New York City for liaison with the United Nations. Under the Obama order, the premises and documents of this NYC office are absolutely immune from search and seizure. Pursuant to the International Organizations Immunities Act, passed by Congress in at the time the United Nations was being set up, seventy other international organizations in the US have immunities identical to those now possessed by Interpol. The presence of the UN was obviously going to lead to the establishment of US offices for many international organizations, and Congress want to regularize the procedures and immunities for such organizations.
Unlike standard international organizations, Interpol was not created by a treaty, and its membership consist of police agencies, not nations per se. So one could make the legal argument that Interpol is not an international organization. However, both the United Nations and the United States have taken the position that Interpol qualifies as an international organization.
Interpol requested the full set of IOIA immunities in 2005. In 2008, the US State Department approved the request, but the White House did not get around to signing the Executive Order. It obviously was not a priority for anyone, nor should such a minor issue have been a priority.
Here's more FACTS...............
Interpol Realism
David Kopel • January 15, 2010 12:55 pm
Over the past few weeks, there has been a lot of concern in some quarters about President Obama’s Executive Order extending certain legal immunities to Interpol. These concerns are misplaced. I am currently writing a research paper on Interpol, which will cover the immunities, and many other issues. In the meantime, some preliminary clarifications:
Interpol has no authority to make arrests or seize property. Interpol is purely an organization for data exchange and analysis. Interpol employees in the United States (or anywhere else) have no authority to conduct any activities except as allowed by the host government. The Obama Executive Order adds nothing to Interpol’s non-existent law enforcement authority.
Interpol’s entire US presence consists of a five-person office in New York City for liaison with the United Nations. Under the Obama order, the premises and documents of this NYC office are absolutely immune from search and seizure. Pursuant to the International Organizations Immunities Act, passed by Congress in at the time the United Nations was being set up, seventy other international organizations in the US have immunities identical to those now possessed by Interpol. The presence of the UN was obviously going to lead to the establishment of US offices for many international organizations, and Congress want to regularize the procedures and immunities for such organizations.
Unlike standard international organizations, Interpol was not created by a treaty, and its membership consist of police agencies, not nations per se. So one could make the legal argument that Interpol is not an international organization. However, both the United Nations and the United States have taken the position that Interpol qualifies as an international organization.
Interpol requested the full set of IOIA immunities in 2005. In 2008, the US State Department approved the request, but the White House did not get around to signing the Executive Order. It obviously was not a priority for anyone, nor should such a minor issue have been a priority.
Why would we elevate an International Police Force above American Law.Why would we immunise an International Police Force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American Law enforcemnt agencies.Why is it suddenly necessary to have within the Justice dept a repositary for stashing government files which,therefore, be beyond the ability of congress,American Law enforcement,the media , and the American People ,to scrutinise ............
On Wednesday for no apparent reason OBama issued an oorder removing the Reagan Limitations..it actually makes an international Police Force immune from the restraints of American Law...get your facts straight ....
You are Not correct it was not fear mongering I heard the news today and read it in the Paper yesterday ...you are wrong... this is your left wing version of it, your spin, I told what I read .and heard . The only thing right in what you say is it was an executive order not a bill I mi spoke .....
The president cannot sign bills that haven't gone threw congress. He can put threw an executive order (rare) but this is not a law, nor does it change laws. If he is signing bills quietly, behind closed doors, it's only because it's already been threw congress and is avialible for anyone to see.
As for the interpol thing, lol, read the following.................
Interpol Under Siege by Uninformed Bloggers
Mark Leon Goldberg - December 23, 2009 - 5:29 pm
Critic WatchSecurity
Last week, the Obama Administration issued an executive order that extended certain diplomatic privileges to Interpol--the International Criminal Police Organization. This was a pretty innocuous bureaucratic move, but it has apparently sparked some serious concerns among a certain cadre of blogger. For example, you have Steve Shippert and Clyde Middleton of ThreatsWatch worrying that this "could conceivably include...Americans arrested on our soil by INTERPOL officers." And Andy McCarthy of National Review writes,
"This international police force...will be unrestrained by the U.S. Constitution and American law while it operates in the United States and affects both Americans and American interests outside the United States...Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies?"
Both McCarthy and the ThreatsWatch duo's understanding of how Interpol works seems to be heavily shaped by fiction and film. In real life, Interpol is also not an "international police force." This would imply that Interpol is composed of units of officers that can chase criminals across the world, Jason Bourne style. In fact, there is no such thing as an "Interpol officer," as such. Rather, law enforcement officers from Interpol's member states are seconded to the organization from national law enforcement agencies, like the FBI, U.S. Marshals, Royal Canadian Mounted Police, ect.
This is not just a semantic distinction. Officers seconded to Interpol do not have any sort of transnational executive arrest power. Rather, officers seconded to Interpol do things like coordinate busts of international child pornography rings. The people actually making the arrests, though, are members of the national law enforcement of the country where the crimes are committed. They are not "Interpol Officers" -- because there is no such thing as an "Interpol Officer." Further, "Interpol" can't arrest an American on American soil, a Canadian on Canadian soil or a Rwandan on a Rwandan soil. Only national law enforcement can do that.
As to the specific reaon why the Obama administration would decide, last week, to extend to Interpol the same suite of diplomatic privileges that are typically accorded to international organizations? I don't have a good answer for that. My sense is that it probably has something to with the accessibility of Interpol's secure criminal databases (on things like stolen passports and the like). But that is a question that could pretty easily be answered by a phone call to the Justice Department.
I can say with authority that stoking concerns about Interpol whisking Americans away is un-informed fear mongering.
*For the record, I worked at Interpol's Headquarters in Lyon France in 2002.
As for the interpol thing, lol, read the following.................
Interpol Under Siege by Uninformed Bloggers
Mark Leon Goldberg - December 23, 2009 - 5:29 pm
Critic WatchSecurity
Last week, the Obama Administration issued an executive order that extended certain diplomatic privileges to Interpol--the International Criminal Police Organization. This was a pretty innocuous bureaucratic move, but it has apparently sparked some serious concerns among a certain cadre of blogger. For example, you have Steve Shippert and Clyde Middleton of ThreatsWatch worrying that this "could conceivably include...Americans arrested on our soil by INTERPOL officers." And Andy McCarthy of National Review writes,
"This international police force...will be unrestrained by the U.S. Constitution and American law while it operates in the United States and affects both Americans and American interests outside the United States...Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies?"
Both McCarthy and the ThreatsWatch duo's understanding of how Interpol works seems to be heavily shaped by fiction and film. In real life, Interpol is also not an "international police force." This would imply that Interpol is composed of units of officers that can chase criminals across the world, Jason Bourne style. In fact, there is no such thing as an "Interpol officer," as such. Rather, law enforcement officers from Interpol's member states are seconded to the organization from national law enforcement agencies, like the FBI, U.S. Marshals, Royal Canadian Mounted Police, ect.
This is not just a semantic distinction. Officers seconded to Interpol do not have any sort of transnational executive arrest power. Rather, officers seconded to Interpol do things like coordinate busts of international child pornography rings. The people actually making the arrests, though, are members of the national law enforcement of the country where the crimes are committed. They are not "Interpol Officers" -- because there is no such thing as an "Interpol Officer." Further, "Interpol" can't arrest an American on American soil, a Canadian on Canadian soil or a Rwandan on a Rwandan soil. Only national law enforcement can do that.
As to the specific reaon why the Obama administration would decide, last week, to extend to Interpol the same suite of diplomatic privileges that are typically accorded to international organizations? I don't have a good answer for that. My sense is that it probably has something to with the accessibility of Interpol's secure criminal databases (on things like stolen passports and the like). But that is a question that could pretty easily be answered by a phone call to the Justice Department.
I can say with authority that stoking concerns about Interpol whisking Americans away is un-informed fear mongering.
*For the record, I worked at Interpol's Headquarters in Lyon France in 2002.
News today relevant to the last post MA did speak loudly and were heard...sounds like 'We The People' finally got some action going, unfortunatly he is still signing in bills quietly behind closed doors,none of the promised transparency , ie this new one giving Interpol powers over our Police ..
As was pointed out before, all of us (or our ancestors) were at one time immigrants; we have stand up for what our fathers, uncles, brothers, sisters, and anyone who has shed blood for our freedom.
It's a pity that so many have had to shed blood to give people the freedom to do some of the horrific things they do........freedom don't come free......
I, too, am afraid of what I've been seeing in this country -- there is no respect left for what belongs to someone else -- if you want something, just take it; for other people's opinions -- if you don't like their point of view, feel free to call them stupid, ignorant, idiots or whatever; if you don't like what people are doing, just throw a big fit and they will lose their rights (praying in schools, etc)............
Am I blaming this on Obama??? Absolutely not, but I *am* blaming him for making it worse, rather than trying to do something constructive to change it.
Let's hope that the people of MA spoke loudly enough to be REALLY heard.
It's a pity that so many have had to shed blood to give people the freedom to do some of the horrific things they do........freedom don't come free......
I, too, am afraid of what I've been seeing in this country -- there is no respect left for what belongs to someone else -- if you want something, just take it; for other people's opinions -- if you don't like their point of view, feel free to call them stupid, ignorant, idiots or whatever; if you don't like what people are doing, just throw a big fit and they will lose their rights (praying in schools, etc)............
Am I blaming this on Obama??? Absolutely not, but I *am* blaming him for making it worse, rather than trying to do something constructive to change it.
Let's hope that the people of MA spoke loudly enough to be REALLY heard.
awwww luv a duck dearie I am blushin '...... Thing is I know most Immigrants feel the same ,I was talking to a Russian guy the other day ,arent I the lucky one , he told me he was also concerned and actually horrified that so much has happened so quickly in 12 months he said he escaped from Communism and could see the pattern of behavior here .Maybe now with Scott Brown's win the country will see that We the People are America ...not some upstarts wanting to change, and fundamentally transform America ... ,if they want Marxism , progressivism , go live somewhere else .I was going to say Russia but they dont want it either ...
I, personally, am proud to be considered a friend of Margy's. With all the illegal immigrants coming into this country and expecting everything to be handed to them on silver platter --- it's absolutely refreshing to have someone like Margy, who worked hard and went through the channels to become a legal citizen of this country and to stand up and defend it so whole-heartedly; working hard to be a worthy citizen.
Margy -- keep standing up -- this country needs people who love it enough to stand up for you believe in.............
Margy -- keep standing up -- this country needs people who love it enough to stand up for you believe in.............
You and Margy and a few others on here are SO GOOD at speaking up for yourselves and getting to the nitty gritty of a problem.
You make so much sense and you don't back down when those "others" try to act all innocent, like they weren't trying to cause any trouble - no, not THEM...
You are VERY well-spoken and organized in your thoughts and I enjoy reading what you have to say. You are STRONG in standing up for yourself, but you don't stoop to calling names.
I love Margy's style, too. She gets "pounded" by them a lot, yet she maintains a sense of humor. I dare say - she knows MORE about what's going on in this country and it's politics than MOST of us. She's got her ear to the ground and I read what she has to say with interest. She is VERY passionate about the country she CHOSE to belong to.
You make so much sense and you don't back down when those "others" try to act all innocent, like they weren't trying to cause any trouble - no, not THEM...
You are VERY well-spoken and organized in your thoughts and I enjoy reading what you have to say. You are STRONG in standing up for yourself, but you don't stoop to calling names.
I love Margy's style, too. She gets "pounded" by them a lot, yet she maintains a sense of humor. I dare say - she knows MORE about what's going on in this country and it's politics than MOST of us. She's got her ear to the ground and I read what she has to say with interest. She is VERY passionate about the country she CHOSE to belong to.
LOL LOL
Your just glad were fighting. Carry On
It is my passion for this country that keeps me fighting for what Americans have always fought for , I think many devious folksand I do not mean on this website, are trying to fundamentally change America and the constitution,I do believe that they are taking us into socialism , this past year has seen many changes we did not know about ..I am glad that we are fighting back .
I just wanted to say that I appreciate those that are true to themselves and that is Margy. Others as well--- I won't name all of you. Strong personalities make for good debate as does passion for the topic. No one can deny the passion here . . . or the strong personalities.
There you go again 'You are paranoid '.....see what I mean
I didnt like what you said teko I did find it demeaning I felt you were having a 'go at me for being an immigrant... I did decide to ignore it as that is the best way for me my back is strong, I am from a Military Family we do not back off, , I actually have found flmagi remarks more insulting than any I have had, I chose to ignore them also as I feel she cannot help it ,anyone who spits venom like that ...well....I thank RJ for standing up for me , I think Barbarella had many valid points I am sorry she is backing off ...
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