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fordyce's condition/hpv problem (lip line - white bumps/redness)

hi everybody, this is my first time posting here, although i have read through different forums for a couple of months now and have found this site extremely helpful.

ok so here is my problem: about 4 or 5 months ago i contracted hpv. i wasnt completely sure i actually contracted it until a couple months ago when i noticed a wart in my genital area and had it frozen off. this whole ordeal, although it stressed me out a lot, went relatively smoothly.

however, the thing is, that about a month after i believe i contracted hpv, i noticed two small white dots on the border of my top lip. i assumed they were just white heads because i have had semi-frequent pimples on the borders of my lips before. So i put some tazorac on them to cure the problem. however all that happened was a real pimple showed up right next to the dots, got big, popped, and went away leaving a slight scar. while the pimple got big, the two dots seemed to fade away, but after the pimple went away the dots came back. so now i have these two white dots on the edge of my lip on top of a scar that is a little darker than the color of my lips.

I was worried for a while that they could be the beginnings of warts on my lips, but judging from the what i have read and from the fact that i did not engage in oral sex with my partner, i doubt this is the case. My dermatologist took a very brief look at them and said they are either clogged pores or sebaceous glands. Then when he saw the sebaceous glands actually on my lips (which i'm absolutely sure is fordyce's condition) he said they're probably just more sebaceous glands and there is nothing i can do about them.

however in this last month or so i have noticed many more of these small white dots appearing along the edges of my lips and a little above. i wasnt too worried at first but then they became more and more visible, and started having lots of redness around them, which is the worst part, making them even more visible. this is causing me to start to doubt that these dots are sebaceous glands.

they seem to be worse after i wash my face or if i stretch my lips a lot or anything like that, and sometimes appear very oily and shiny. i find at times the red area seems to sting/burn until i pat it down with a paper towel.

they seem to blend into my lip more and not be as visible when i drink LOTS of water, right after sleeping, or when i drink alcohol.

i apologize for the length of this post, but i thought it would be best to include as much information as possible in order to clear up any vagueness or over generalizations of conditions.

if anyone has experienced anything like this, please let me know what has worked/not worked for you, or your ideas on what it might be?

i am assuming that the timing of these bumps and the hpv are just coincidence, but if there is any reason they may be connected, i am open to hearing it.

again, i apologize for the length, but hopefully some of you can relate and we can help each other out. i wish good health to all of you, thanks.
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I'm dealing with the same thing. Bumps popped up this summer around June and have slowly spread across my top lip. I asked my Obgyn but she automatically assumed it was hsv2. Problem is, they're painless and aren't growing. They hurt when I mess with them too much but other than that, no pain. I'm so scared its something serious like oral cancer or hpv. I smoke marijuana as well as vape. Trying oil of oregano with evoo soon. Im so self conscious its insane.
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has the oregano been effective?
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I had a similar situation where I made a massive mistake. I met a prostitute, her mouth from outside looked fine her hands looked fine her factual features looked fine she looked pretty clean and pretty. She was drinking alcohol and I couldn't see any cuts on her face or facial skin. I didn't have anal or vaginal sex just mutual masterbation.

She masterbated my penis and I fingered her and we engaged in deep kissing and I put my tongue into her mouth once. There were a few moments where we took brakes on the deep kissing. But I am not sure if inside her mouth there were any form of spots/cuts/or ulcers.

Few days later I saw tiny little yellow spots inside my cheeks and top lip. I don't know if am seeing them now and they were allready there or if I am panicking and looking closer at my lips and inside my mouth. I looked at the top of my lips and inside my cheeks and I see tiny little yellow dots which look exactly like Fordyce's Granules/spots.

I will be seeing my gum clinic end of this month, but according to the NHS websites HPV automatically clears up within two years as the immune system beats the virus. Whereas herpes is not curable. That is my concern if if I have herpes or HPV. I know my encounter was a low sexual activity but there is a very low chance of transmitting HPV or herpes through deep kissing.
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Read this whole message if you have what's been described here or if you have any STD because you'll want to check back here periodically to hear my results in developing a cure for this and hear how others including myself have had disease dissembled wirelessly for free.

This could be a new strain of HPV or herpes which would need to be identified in order to be dissassembled via scalar technology as others have apparantly cured their herpes and HPV using scalar waves and which has greatly reduced if not completely cured a H pylori infection I've had for two and a half years and didn't eliminate with antibiotics but that I must wait two more months to be retested for as the antibodies stay in the blood for a bit after you've eliminated h pylori.
I contracted most likely what you all pretty much have described by sharing a vaporizer. I noticed this the day after I had one lil bump and then four hours later a patch and some spots on the lip line and then later what appeared to be two little ingrown white heads in the center of the lip.

Thinking this could be HPV or herpes or bothmade me suicidial for a little bit but I've calmed down as I've been thru too much ******** to not find a cure for this **** along with bringing numerous other vital discoveries to the fore front that I have to be very careful with.

I'm going to try 100% pure oregano on my lips.
I'll try aloe Vera as well.
I'm going to have a laboratory test done on the shedding of these spots or try and burst one open and test it this way. I'll look into PCR testing and so forth

This most likely is not Fordyce spots. possibly HPV or oral herpes possibly both. There's very little chance that I developed these spots randomly the day after sharing that vaporizer and I sure as hell didn't catch this from anyone sexually.

Only fools choose not to share their experiences as to how they healed themselves. That is vital for evolution.  And there's a ridiculous amount of suffering on our planet that makes me question a whole lot and thankfully I've finally got answers as to why and what to do about it for myself and anyone else who feels they deserve to know, and answers without blind faith.

Save this webpage address and check back once a month if you feel that's a good idea, if you don't then that's up to you. If you find out what this infection is or have anymore valuable information or experience in regards to this type of thing and its not already widely known to our species and/ or you or someone you know about comes up with a cure or remedy that's realistic then you better be sharing that or I won't be the only one hunting you down.

Best regards,
Robotic blue God

PS. I have experienced pain that is largely indescribable and beyond the scope of what the average person can relate to by the usage of entheogenic substances that inflicted mental insanity far beyond the pain of any regrets but that brought me to a very much beneficial overstanding of what has to be done for the evolution and sentient expansion. What I'm getting at is that I'm not joking at all here and I'm extremely serious about all of this. If reading this was so distasteful for you, then it will be foreseen that you learn from it C and that it is as beneficial as possible for you
and others.

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have you had success with either aloe or the oregano oil??
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any updates on this thread? i noticed the same thing on the corners of my upper lip and i as well am hpv positive. i've been applying aloe vera on it. has anyone tried anything that works permanently?
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did the aloe work at all, whats your status now?
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Same goes for me, contracted HPV 2 years ago, only noticed this until recent, been to the doctors twice since, first time received a prescription of 'Aciclovir' (tablets to clear herpes) which seemed to do nothing at all, now on a prescription of 'Daktarin' a gel for treating oral fungal infections aka Thrush. I've already started to expect no results from this either.

It's annoying to visit multiple doctors for them all to be clueless about what it is and have to google image search whilst I'm sat with them.

it's quite strange we all seem to say we have these white spot clusters on our top lip line, maybe a few scattered on bottom, should we all coincidentally assume we happen to have fordyce spots only located on the top lip as well as having HPV?

the last doctor I visited said she doesn't think these are fordyce spots despite comparing my lip to those shown on google images, I believe the only reason I was given thrush medicine was due to claiming I had a white coating on my tongue a few days earlier and admitted to smoking...

any solutions of what this could be?

PS. tried pure aloe vera plant gel fresh from the leaf, didn't notice any changes.
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how long did you use the aloe for? how is your condition now?
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Where did you find the information for this remedy are there any updates or other treatments you discovered since this post? Thanks
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