An Oral clarification

[quitescared]

Dr's,

I have unfortunaelty returned to your wonderful sight in request for information/clarification.

I am a straight male, uncircum. Recently i was travelling through Dubai and found myself making an incredible mistake after having a few drinks. I was in company with a Chinese working lady. We DID NOT have sex nor did i touch her genital area. She did however masturbate me after touching herself briefly but i am of the opinion this is a no risk situation?? My scare has come from a 5-10 SECOND EXPOSURE to RECEIVING UNPROTECTED ORAL. I asked her to stop, which she did. Placed a condom on and continued for about 30 secs until i asked her to stop again. The unprotected piece scared me greatly.

I did not seeing any blood within her mouth, there was no blood or open cuts on my p*nis. I had clippered my pubic hair approximately 12 hours prior but did not see any nicks in the skin. I immediately asked her if she was healthy and clear of HIV which she replied she was clear.

What is my level of risk here if any. I am someone who worries greatly about HIV and am very annoyed to return to this site in this situation. I have read numerous posts with similar concerns but i guess i am happy to make the donation and hear it from the horses mouth directly relating to my circumstances.

Thankyou for this great service
in appreciation

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

Correct.  I'm not going to repeat the words.  Move on. That's all for this thread.

[quitescared]

Thankyou for your candid response and the link for further reading. Appreciated.

What i have taken from this is that Oral Sex very rarely transmits HIV if at all. Therefor a brief 5-10 sec exposure makes it almost impossible without the presence of secondary circumstances such as blood in the mouth, open sores on penis etc. These circumstances (blood/sores etc) would perhaps increase the risk from 1 in 10,000 as has been stated. Am i correct in these assumptions?

With regards to my situation you are stating that i do not need testing, there was no risk of transmission even IF she did have HIV. I can continue relations with my partner with no risk/fear. Correct?

Thankyou Dr for answering this final follow up question.

Enjoy your 4th July Holiday
regards

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

Welcome back.  But I have to say I cannot imagine what you expect to hear that you don't already from your discussions a few months ago on this and the HIV community forum.  In fact, I'm stopping to answer your question after "We DID NOT have sex nor did i touch her genital area. She did however masturbate me...."  Those facts alone mean you could not possibly have caught HIV, even if your partner were infected (which she probably was not) -- regardless of what the rest of your question says.

Now I have read the rest.  You say nothing that changes that assessment. As for "relating directly to my circumstances":  the forum rarely does that.  We pretty much always answer based on the general principles, without regard to details of individual exposures.  Certainly there is nothing in your description of the exposures that is any different from the hundreds of similar replies on the forum.  In any case, you were not at risk, do not need to be tested on account of this event, and you can safely continue sex with any regular sex partner(s).

I hope you will use this additional learning experience to educate yourself thoroughly about what does and does not constitute a risk for sexual acquisition of HIV.  You could start with the thread below, which explains the biology of HIV/STD transmission.  Start reading with the follow-up comments starting December 14:  http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/1119533

Thanks for the thanks. But please do not keep returning to the forum to ask about no-risk exposures.  The reply will always be similar.

Regards--  HHH, MD