Aa
Aa
A
A
A
Close
Avatar universal

insertive *******, frotage and vaginal sex

Doctor I am going to need psychological help because i like to live to the edge of the danger and that unquestionably must be treat it , because I am putting always my life in risk and that conduct is not good.

Do You Remember the girl of the club that I told you moths ago, This time I took her out of the club and we went to my hotel (this was 29 of December). She show me her a HIV test that she had took on 28 of November. (NEGATIVE).

She perform oral sex without preservative ( Suck my Penis), Then, I put a condon and we had the first vaginal sex relation.
Then she returned to me and practice oral sex ( Suck my penis) and frotage (She rub her vagina against my penis). Warning, never was direct penetration without condom, only rubbing or frotage.

We continue playing and I put the other condom and we proceed to the second vaginal sex relation.
There is my history doctor, now I feel a lot of anxiety, I know that insertive oral sex does not carry a high risk and that frotage neither.

I contact the girl and ask her to repeated the HIV test on 3 of January and also was negative. I have a hard copy of the last test (5 days after our encounter).
But I have a horrible anxiety,
In summary:
*She has 2 negative HIV Test (28 of November and the 3 of January)
* I was with her on 29 of December (Blowjob without condon, frotage and vaginal sex with protection)

Do you think that im over reacting? Please your recommendation
5 Responses
Sort by: Helpful Oldest Newest
239123 tn?1267647614
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Since your partner for sure does not have HIV, there is no need for you to be tested further.  All is well; for sure you do not have HIV.
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
Doc, i just want to share with you that for my fears i ask the escort to take another HIV test on january 24.

She is in honduras and she went to take her test. NEGATIVE.
I have a Photo of the results.

Im gona wait 8 weeks to take my test because that nigth i was so drunk and y know that my frottage was really near to penetration before put my codom
Good Bless you
Helpful - 0
239123 tn?1267647614
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
You're right -- my error.  You posted on the international forum in December 2009; I was thinking it was only a couple of weeks ago.  Please accept my apology.

Could she be in a window period?  Conceivably yes but exceedingly unlikely.  Among most population groups of women in the US, western Europe, or other industrialized countries, under 1 in 1,000 have HIV.  That includes escorts, i.e. high-priced female commercial sex workers.  The odds in someone with 2 negative tests 5-6 weeks apart have to be under 1 in a million.  And even if she had it, the possibility of transmission from the contact described is nearly zero, since genital contact without penetration (some call it "outercourse") carries no known HIV transmission risk.

Apologies again for misunderstanding the timing of your previous MedHelp session.  But as you can see, it doesn't change my opinion or advice.  You should not be at all worried about HIV and do not need testing on account of this event.
Helpful - 0
Avatar universal
Dr, Hunter, i think you are confunsing me with other member, i have more than a year that i dont wrote in this formum or international forum.

My anxiety is coming for the frotage (Rubbing) situation, if my head of penis could be expoused to vaginal fluids.
I dont want to discuss What if situation, but want to know your medical opinion.

And the other think its if my partner could be in the windows period, remember that she is a escort.
Helpful - 0
239123 tn?1267647614
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Welcome back to the forum.  However, you are asking the same questions as on the STD international forum; I hope you don't expect different answers than you received from Dr. Cummings.

As you were told there, receiving oral sex carries little or no risk for HIV transmisison, and of course boddy rubbing (frottage) is a zero risk activity.  Further, you describe a partner who definitely does not have HIV.  I don't know what you are worried about; indeed you are overreacting.  You don't need HIV testing on account of these events.

When people are inappropriately anxious, and especially when they understand their fears are irrational -- as you obviously do -- our experience on this forum is that no amount of repetition of the facts and the low chance of transmission resolves their fears of HIV.  You recognize the need for professional mental health attention, and online forums are not a substitute for it.  For these reasons, there will be no ongoing discuss or follow-up comments on this thread.  There is nothing you can add that could possibly change my opinion or advice.

Good luck--  HHH, MD
Helpful - 0

You are reading content posted in the HIV - Prevention Forum

Popular Resources
Condoms are the most effective way to prevent HIV and STDs.
PrEP is used by people with high risk to prevent HIV infection.
Can I get HIV from surfaces, like toilet seats?
Can you get HIV from casual contact, like hugging?
Frequency of HIV testing depends on your risk.
Post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) may help prevent HIV infection.