Help i just want to move on finally!

[Sill_Scot]

I stupidly had unprotected oral both ways and what I’m pretty sure was protected but I’m not 100% sure so let’s say unprotected full sex with an African CSW in Lagos Nigeria. About 2 months after I developed aches and pains in my arms legs, underarms neck and back some days quite severe &the odd night sweat. I’ve also had a dark spot appear in my eye and 3 skin tags appear (now gone).  
Around a year on I have acquired multiple eye floaters and genital warts approx 5 in total which have now gone. 2 years on I still have eye floaters and I still get aches and uncomfortable feelings all over but mainly under my arms in around other points in my limbs and collar bone.  Sometimes I feel like I’m bruised however I have no markings. These are my only real symptoms no rash or sickness however I have had a couple of bad flu bouts and an awkward inflamed tonsil with tonsil stones on one side.   The only other worry I had an ex girlfriend of mine developed Very dry skin on her eye lids which appears to be Seborrhoeic Dermatitis and she has also had 2 very bad bouts of Flu and tonsillitis in the past few years.  Were we’re both tested prior to having unprotected sex but I’m worried I passed HIV on to her!  I never had sex with her until after my 12 week test.  
Testing wise I had a 4th Gen test at 5 and 10 weeks, Rapid Insti HIV1/2 at 4 months and an 4th Gen at 4.5 and 6.5 months and finally another 4th Gen at 11.5 months exposure. ALL NEGATIVE.  Ive also had a full STD screening including Hep B but not Hep C  out to 6 months and normal blood tests at 2months and 1 year post exposure all normal.  In your opinion am I clear from HIV all subtypes including Africa and my symptoms are down to something else. All the NHS and my private doctor stressed that the tests I had are more than conclusive after 3 months. The Africa factor combined with the symptoms worries me! Thanks

[Sill_Scot]

Thanks for your response but I'm not quite sure what your point is.  I was concerned about the possible vaginal sex exposure and secondly the unprotected oral ( vaginal ) where I came in contact with vaginal secretions not saliva!
That's for your input though :)

[manmadhan]

I recently attended a workshop on HIV (in Singapore). According to them, it takes at least one litre of saliva to transmit HIV. oral sex can never involve that amount of saliva. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. even if you keep on spitting into a jug, you are going to take hours to get one litre of saliva. so just forget it and carry on

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

I said nothing about a psychological origin of your symptoms, only that HIV isn't the cause.  However, whenever a person hints that his or her own symptoms have an emotional origin, usually s/he is correct -- so it is your comments, not mine, that make this seem a reasonable possibility.

That will be all for this thread.  And please no new ones on the same exposure, testing, etc.   The reply always will be the same.

[Sill_Scot]

Thank you for your answer.... I will seek counciling as suggested and thank you for your compassion! I just thought with the prolonged symptoms that you might have a change of opinion and as to someone not medicly trained as myself its hard to understand how pychological problems can cause my syptoms. I guess the added ilnesses of my ex girlfriend the have hightened the anxiety! Howver I understand this is an irrelivent! and I will do my hardest to move on!

Thanks

D

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

This appears to concern the same exposure that generated your question on this forum in 2008 and a number of discussions on the HIV community forum. The answers are the same and the NHS GUM clinic and your private doctor are correct:  your test results prove you do not have HIV and that something else explains any and all symptoms you have.  And those symptoms don't sound serious; the only health problem in evidence here is the psychological one that is making it difficult or impossible for you to accept the reality that you don't have HIV despite more than a year of repeated testing and reassurance.  Professional counseling probably is in order to figure out why (perhaps guilt over your apparent sexual indiscretion?).  I suggest it out of compassion, not criticism.

There will be no follow-up comments or discussion on this thread.  It is unlikely there is any information you can provide that could change my opinion or advice.

Regards--  HHH, MD