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Dancing With the Stars
Wow! Anyone see the new lineup for this season? Starting with Paul McCartney's ex, Heather Mills, it's by far the most interesting list of "B" celebs to date.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2007-02-21-dancing-lineup_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2007-02-21-dancing-lineup_x.htm
If you can get him to see a good hepatologist you'll have done a lot. Good luck, Mike
Thanks alot Mike! Your advice was very helpful and helps me to feel more confident that even with my limitations of what I know about cirhosis,what I do know can maybe be of help to him in weighing his decision not to tx.
I sincerly appreciate you reaching out to me concerning this matter.
I'll let you know how it goes.
thanks again.
I sincerly appreciate you reaching out to me concerning this matter.
I'll let you know how it goes.
thanks again.
You ask "In your opinion or maybe based on knowledge you've gained over the years, once someone has cirhosis, they should make an attempt to tx and rid the virus, correct?"
Absolutely, unless his cirrhosis is so far gone that TX is contraindicated but if he's conducting services I wouldn't think he was that far advanced. Had the doctors and I known in 1995 what is commonplace knowledge today I might have avoided transplantation but, back then cirrhosis was believed to preclude treatment. I don't know that I could have cleared with regular interferon but I might have slowed down the progression. As it was I wouldn't have qualified for a transplant in 2000 had cancer not been suspected so I might have had a chance to keep my own parts had I attempted treatment early on.
I probably wouldn't anticipate being able to diagnose the condition of his liver so I don't think trying to formulate a list of questions aimed in that direction would be helpful. You know the basics and if he knows (which I doubt) his relevant blood markers you can just wing it and probably be close to the mark. If his platelet count is low we know that is not a positive indicator of liver health. I think you're goal should be to educate and encourage him enough so that he sees hope and possibility and seeks medical evaluation from a good hepatologist immediately. If he does that and is prescribed treatment and undertakes treatment you'll have plenty of work to do then. Often people need to hear success stories and come to see and believe that there can be a positive resolution to this disease. Even though he is a Minister he may still be dwelling in the dark with respect to HCV so go and shine the light. That's really all I would try to do and I'd go in knowing that sometimes people cannot see the light even when it is shining brightly in their eyes. Good luck. Mike
Absolutely, unless his cirrhosis is so far gone that TX is contraindicated but if he's conducting services I wouldn't think he was that far advanced. Had the doctors and I known in 1995 what is commonplace knowledge today I might have avoided transplantation but, back then cirrhosis was believed to preclude treatment. I don't know that I could have cleared with regular interferon but I might have slowed down the progression. As it was I wouldn't have qualified for a transplant in 2000 had cancer not been suspected so I might have had a chance to keep my own parts had I attempted treatment early on.
I probably wouldn't anticipate being able to diagnose the condition of his liver so I don't think trying to formulate a list of questions aimed in that direction would be helpful. You know the basics and if he knows (which I doubt) his relevant blood markers you can just wing it and probably be close to the mark. If his platelet count is low we know that is not a positive indicator of liver health. I think you're goal should be to educate and encourage him enough so that he sees hope and possibility and seeks medical evaluation from a good hepatologist immediately. If he does that and is prescribed treatment and undertakes treatment you'll have plenty of work to do then. Often people need to hear success stories and come to see and believe that there can be a positive resolution to this disease. Even though he is a Minister he may still be dwelling in the dark with respect to HCV so go and shine the light. That's really all I would try to do and I'd go in knowing that sometimes people cannot see the light even when it is shining brightly in their eyes. Good luck. Mike
Thanks Mike.
I do agree 100% that it is my responsibility to talk to the pastor and not just because I am a Christian or Jew or whatever, just as a fellow human being. I agree and I am definitely going to do it, but 'my approach' in how to handle it has been my true concern.
The stigma is what holds me back of sharing my own story.I don't want to feel like people are afraid to sit next to me if they know I had hep. Though I must say,I haven't seen anyone shy away from the Pastor.
In your opinion or maybe based on knowledge you've gained over the years, once someone has cirhosis, they should make an attempt to tx and rid the virus, correct?
I have learned alot on forum, but as far as cirhosis, my knowledge is very limited. I know I recently read on forum that there are different degrees A,B C (I believe it was in reference to child plough reference,,I may be saying this all ****-eyed and backwards).
But I guess one of the questions I should ask the pastor is if he knows to what degree is the cirhosis? I even wonder if he knows his geno type or if he knows what that means. I am very curious at this point how much his doctor has given him as far as information.
Many of us have found out the hard way that the doctors sometimes give us little info or incorrect info, and some give NO info,such as "you have hep, leave it alone and you can live to be 82." That was what I heard at my first consult. Some doctors amaze me.
But if you don't mind, can you give me some questions that might be something I can give him to ask his doctor about his cirhosis?
Last week the pastor mentioned how we all have to rid ourselves of stress as much as possible and he said, "I have terrible bone pain in my shoulder and I know it is because I have been taking on too much responsibility and have been very burdened because of it."
I was thinking to myself, yup he has the typical bone pain that we all get from hep and he thinks its stress, which maybe it is, but I couldn't help but think its the hep.
So any more thoughts or info is appreciated.
thanks
I do agree 100% that it is my responsibility to talk to the pastor and not just because I am a Christian or Jew or whatever, just as a fellow human being. I agree and I am definitely going to do it, but 'my approach' in how to handle it has been my true concern.
The stigma is what holds me back of sharing my own story.I don't want to feel like people are afraid to sit next to me if they know I had hep. Though I must say,I haven't seen anyone shy away from the Pastor.
In your opinion or maybe based on knowledge you've gained over the years, once someone has cirhosis, they should make an attempt to tx and rid the virus, correct?
I have learned alot on forum, but as far as cirhosis, my knowledge is very limited. I know I recently read on forum that there are different degrees A,B C (I believe it was in reference to child plough reference,,I may be saying this all ****-eyed and backwards).
But I guess one of the questions I should ask the pastor is if he knows to what degree is the cirhosis? I even wonder if he knows his geno type or if he knows what that means. I am very curious at this point how much his doctor has given him as far as information.
Many of us have found out the hard way that the doctors sometimes give us little info or incorrect info, and some give NO info,such as "you have hep, leave it alone and you can live to be 82." That was what I heard at my first consult. Some doctors amaze me.
But if you don't mind, can you give me some questions that might be something I can give him to ask his doctor about his cirhosis?
Last week the pastor mentioned how we all have to rid ourselves of stress as much as possible and he said, "I have terrible bone pain in my shoulder and I know it is because I have been taking on too much responsibility and have been very burdened because of it."
I was thinking to myself, yup he has the typical bone pain that we all get from hep and he thinks its stress, which maybe it is, but I couldn't help but think its the hep.
So any more thoughts or info is appreciated.
thanks
Flguy said:
Sometimes I wonder if we get a little trigger-happy
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"We" get a little trigger happy? Whose the "we?" Making it sound as if your including yourself. I guess that makes it ok for you to say.
I'm not trigger happy, I shoot from the hip with a purpose and intent.
One more time, but I thought I made myself clear.
My question is why would anyone who basically stayed totally clear when a certain person was not only trigger happy, but slitting a person by the throat everytime they opened their mouth? Where was the concern of the "concerned citizens" then? It seems you look to defend this "new guy" 'just incase' we are wrong in 'assuming' he is up to no good.
Well we saw plain and clear that a banned person was up to no good for a long time. Where was the outcry of the MEN then? One or 2 maybe.
Sorry but as far as "changing the subject" viewed as being helpful,,that is not what I call helpful.
Thats the same if I was walking down a street in NYC and a guy came up to me and grabbed me by the throat and my husband offered the guy a stick of gum "just to change the subject" of the guy "KILLING ME". If my husband didn't pop the guy in the nose, he could pack his bags when we got home as far as I am concerned.
Now this "Lucky" guy. I guess he's not the big "R" either, yeah right. See this is what happens when "tolerance" is shoved so far down society's throat. People can't see clearly anymore because they are so afraid of 'offending.' They forfeit 'justice' for so called 'tolerance.' Or ooooh what if we 'offend'or what if we are wrong in our assuming,(even tho the evidence is very clear) Well thats how a lot of judges think today and thats why we have so many criminals walking the streets with us.
Btw. I am not mad at you either, not that you would loose sleep over it if I was.
Sometimes I wonder if we get a little trigger-happy
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"We" get a little trigger happy? Whose the "we?" Making it sound as if your including yourself. I guess that makes it ok for you to say.
I'm not trigger happy, I shoot from the hip with a purpose and intent.
One more time, but I thought I made myself clear.
My question is why would anyone who basically stayed totally clear when a certain person was not only trigger happy, but slitting a person by the throat everytime they opened their mouth? Where was the concern of the "concerned citizens" then? It seems you look to defend this "new guy" 'just incase' we are wrong in 'assuming' he is up to no good.
Well we saw plain and clear that a banned person was up to no good for a long time. Where was the outcry of the MEN then? One or 2 maybe.
Sorry but as far as "changing the subject" viewed as being helpful,,that is not what I call helpful.
Thats the same if I was walking down a street in NYC and a guy came up to me and grabbed me by the throat and my husband offered the guy a stick of gum "just to change the subject" of the guy "KILLING ME". If my husband didn't pop the guy in the nose, he could pack his bags when we got home as far as I am concerned.
Now this "Lucky" guy. I guess he's not the big "R" either, yeah right. See this is what happens when "tolerance" is shoved so far down society's throat. People can't see clearly anymore because they are so afraid of 'offending.' They forfeit 'justice' for so called 'tolerance.' Or ooooh what if we 'offend'or what if we are wrong in our assuming,(even tho the evidence is very clear) Well thats how a lot of judges think today and thats why we have so many criminals walking the streets with us.
Btw. I am not mad at you either, not that you would loose sleep over it if I was.
I'm going to jump in and give you my 2 cents. When you first brought up the minister with HCV you mentioned a reluctance to acknowledge that you have HCV. I have to stretch my imagination to relate to how you feel - and you're not alone Myown because a lot of people are unwilling to admit to having this disease. I had a transplant for HCV and possibly for that reason I never hesitated to admit having hepatitis c. Of course, having a surgery like that precludes any attempts at secrecy. But, I will say that when I was diagnosed in 1995 I didn't try to hide my situation - I put it right out in the open. I believe that just having this disease is stressful enough without having to exert the added effort necessary to conceal it. I am not naive and I realize that some people's work environment precludes coming out with the truth but I don't have that type of environment so I am, and always have been, open about it. I don't know your reasons for not wanting to admit to having hepatitis. If it is necessary to maintain a comfortable work environment then I agree that's the healthy way to go as far as your work is concerned.
From your posts I gather that you are a religious woman. From mine I assume you sense that I am not very religious. I believe in God but I am Jewish and so our belief systems differ somewhat. But, fundamentally I think we both believe in doing good and helping our fellow man/woman even when it isn't an easy thing to do. So, I think you should speak with him openly and honestly and tell him what you know and what you think he should do. We here at MH are somewhat consumed with HCV and as a result we know more about it than most people infected with HCV. When they need our knowledge, wisdom, strength, guidance, support and compassion it is our duty to help. It's the Christian thing to do and the Jewish thing to do. It's the thing to do even if we didn't believe in God. It is a blessing and honor to be of service to another and I believe sincerely that it is our duty as well. That's my take on it Myown and I hope that you're not sorry you asked for my opinion. Mike
From your posts I gather that you are a religious woman. From mine I assume you sense that I am not very religious. I believe in God but I am Jewish and so our belief systems differ somewhat. But, fundamentally I think we both believe in doing good and helping our fellow man/woman even when it isn't an easy thing to do. So, I think you should speak with him openly and honestly and tell him what you know and what you think he should do. We here at MH are somewhat consumed with HCV and as a result we know more about it than most people infected with HCV. When they need our knowledge, wisdom, strength, guidance, support and compassion it is our duty to help. It's the Christian thing to do and the Jewish thing to do. It's the thing to do even if we didn't believe in God. It is a blessing and honor to be of service to another and I believe sincerely that it is our duty as well. That's my take on it Myown and I hope that you're not sorry you asked for my opinion. Mike
no, i dont need an editor... as a matte of fact,.. my vocabulary's much wider than yours.. its just that i choose to be the one who does more typos here than you do. ok, i'll leave u alone a u wished. just dotn rub the bottle again will yah! it gives me shiver, ur kinda scary. go on, do ur thing.. i'll just be reading dont worry...
bahu buli na kano.
thanks
bahu buli na kano.
thanks
What is it with you? At least you are giving some clues about your personality. First, you talk about your officemate, which gives a better understanding of your name 'hard core back'. And then you go on to say 'impressing women aint my style'. You've got a flair for the obvious, fella. Or maybe it's just a flair. Leave me alone. I wish not to hear from you. I don't think you want an editor.
oh, men, you oldies do know how to mess things up.. go talk about anything u wanted im outa here.. najeen, whoever u are, if u r too accept the fact that ur being mistreated here think again. u can hit the abuse botton too u know.. u got ur right to here.. and to u FIguy, impressing women aint my style, go try to hide ur rev persona somewher.. it stinks..
babayu.. mga gurang...
babayu.. mga gurang...
Let me make it clear. I object to you associating those beliefs, those comments and those attitudes with my name, as you very clearly did. It was irresponsible and reprehensible and for some reason you are drawing a paralell to me. Why?
that a few interlopers and intruders can make me go crazy for a moment, but I sure hope that the stress that they bring will not make us start going after each other on this forum, cause that's exactly what they want..anyway, tomorrow is another day, and if the Lucky's - (who just might be a woman) and all the fun little charecters of today are still here, maybe I don't need to be...I really wish everyone a good night...
najeen
2/21/2007
C5 . I've never seen the show. What is it all about? People dance with movie stars and we watch? I don't want to offend anyone but that reminds me of soft core pornography. American Idol is bad enough. Anyone remember StarSearch?
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Now this is a guy that just wants to "blend in?" Whose humor does that sound like? Sounds like someone pulling some peoples legs to me.
Doesn't your job have something to do with human behavior of some sort?
This guy is looking for attention. Its impossible for people to hold a conversation in here without one of the 'personalities' breaking in to say something to stir. My remark to you was because it seemed you were defending this guy cause a few 'women' may have been tapping him too hard on the shoulder.There has been alot overlooked by MANY on forum for a long time and was just wondering why all of a sudden people being concerned. Why did this guy from 2004 just happen to show up now?
Okay, I gave you an answer and now I am finished.As I have stated before, I don't run for popularity contests cause I will never win. So if I offended you, it wasn't meant that way, just said what I saw.
So thats it for me. Tired of the drama.
At this point he can attack who he wants,no one will believe it unless he leaves a mark like Zorro.
2/21/2007
C5 . I've never seen the show. What is it all about? People dance with movie stars and we watch? I don't want to offend anyone but that reminds me of soft core pornography. American Idol is bad enough. Anyone remember StarSearch?
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Now this is a guy that just wants to "blend in?" Whose humor does that sound like? Sounds like someone pulling some peoples legs to me.
Doesn't your job have something to do with human behavior of some sort?
This guy is looking for attention. Its impossible for people to hold a conversation in here without one of the 'personalities' breaking in to say something to stir. My remark to you was because it seemed you were defending this guy cause a few 'women' may have been tapping him too hard on the shoulder.There has been alot overlooked by MANY on forum for a long time and was just wondering why all of a sudden people being concerned. Why did this guy from 2004 just happen to show up now?
Okay, I gave you an answer and now I am finished.As I have stated before, I don't run for popularity contests cause I will never win. So if I offended you, it wasn't meant that way, just said what I saw.
So thats it for me. Tired of the drama.
At this point he can attack who he wants,no one will believe it unless he leaves a mark like Zorro.
oh, sorry.. it aint my fault.. theyre trying to make up things like am stirring them all or that i am rev or something.. i dont know.. i getting mad with these stuffs they keep insisting.. ok, am sorry, not to him.. top u.. have a good day... i'll have my lunch now..
...that FlMan has come to my aid, in his own special way, sometimes by just changing the subject and engaging in conversation with me...when I've been "sought after" which is a nice way to put it....from more then one member, and then, with one or two members (as we've recently witnessed) who are more then one member within themselves...I've been asking some computer geeks I know, and there really isn't much any one site can do to stop a person from coming on with more then one identity....unless they really keep up with it, which is usually a lot of trouble unless there are a lot of monitors...and this isn't the case here...
So for me, I'll just live with it, to the extent that I can, and try to ignore some things that aren't positive around here....but knowing me, if I get a mind to, and I see some things too often, I'll open my big trap from time to time, my bad I know...after all, I can leave too if I need to...though there are so many nice, funny and informative members here, and I am following their progress as well..just hope the tone changes to a positive one, whatever it is we discuss here...
So for me, I'll just live with it, to the extent that I can, and try to ignore some things that aren't positive around here....but knowing me, if I get a mind to, and I see some things too often, I'll open my big trap from time to time, my bad I know...after all, I can leave too if I need to...though there are so many nice, funny and informative members here, and I am following their progress as well..just hope the tone changes to a positive one, whatever it is we discuss here...
hey! You know what! We are both on the same track here! These crazy women are trying to say we are rev when the fact is, we are not! Why dont they ask CINDY of medhelp who we are. I was helping others here with a different ID right now since they are kicking my back here. They're even trying to make my language an issue. I even told them, ill send them my picture if they still dont belive me. well, what the h***, THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO NOW.
najeen - if or if not ur rev, i dont care anymore, they had been crazy about this stuff..
najeen - if or if not ur rev, i dont care anymore, they had been crazy about this stuff..
spelling is crazy and my one post is all the way over to the left.
I will post this and see if things are still mixed up.
I will post this and see if things are still mixed up.
Was the "man of the hour" here in 2004?
Yes.
So I guess thats why his multiples were here also.
Trigger happy?
Where were you when Rev was assaulting a woman on forum. I wish YOU and some others would have been a little trigger happy then.
Sometimes I wonder if the boys club exists on forum. For those that have nothing to say when a woman is being 'picked on' (and of course that is an understatement),,but yet voice their opinion when some women are questioning a man about who they really are.
How can someone's mind go to 'porn' from what was a nice conversation going on amongst the "real members."
Or haven't you noticed everything gets turned to a 'dirty' comment? Dancing with stars to porn? And this person wants to fit in and be accepted? No it sounds like they want to cause a stir everytime they post.
Finished.
I am now in the wait and watch mode. Let him say what he wants. I am tired of high school.
Yes.
So I guess thats why his multiples were here also.
Trigger happy?
Where were you when Rev was assaulting a woman on forum. I wish YOU and some others would have been a little trigger happy then.
Sometimes I wonder if the boys club exists on forum. For those that have nothing to say when a woman is being 'picked on' (and of course that is an understatement),,but yet voice their opinion when some women are questioning a man about who they really are.
How can someone's mind go to 'porn' from what was a nice conversation going on amongst the "real members."
Or haven't you noticed everything gets turned to a 'dirty' comment? Dancing with stars to porn? And this person wants to fit in and be accepted? No it sounds like they want to cause a stir everytime they post.
Finished.
I am now in the wait and watch mode. Let him say what he wants. I am tired of high school.
I know your stats? You give me too much credit. I said I treated for 48 weeks and relapsed and asked how about you? Then I said you spend more time talking about this phantom than you do about hepatitis. That was in response to your week long revenire hunt which was hard to avoid if you read the forum. I don't see him here. Do you? Am I the mystery man?
I could also be Ringo or Paul. Anything anyone wants. I don't want to be revenire but if it pleases people say the word.
I could also be Ringo or Paul. Anything anyone wants. I don't want to be revenire but if it pleases people say the word.
For those of you so inclined, a seach of the archives will show 'najeen' posts to 2004. That's long before I came to this forum and long before I even knew I had hep c. Sometimes I wonder if we get a little trigger-happy.
Okay, maybe not soft core pornography but how about those people that like to watch? Voyeurs?
Voyeur means "an obsessive observer of sordid or sensational subjects" and this whole najeen reminds me of revenire reminds me of that. You're feeding this guy's ego just by keeping up talking about him. His head must be blown up like a Macy's parade balloon. The name of this thread should have been Dancing With Revenire. Does that remind you of him too? How about when you're walking around at the grocer? Is he in the cereal aisle getting his Grape Nuts? Does he go to the same church as you too?
I am LOL at all of this. The guy is gone or wouldn't he be posting? Maybe he's watching us all from heaven? He could have died? Wasn't he sick with hepatitis or was that made up?
Have fun.
Voyeur means "an obsessive observer of sordid or sensational subjects" and this whole najeen reminds me of revenire reminds me of that. You're feeding this guy's ego just by keeping up talking about him. His head must be blown up like a Macy's parade balloon. The name of this thread should have been Dancing With Revenire. Does that remind you of him too? How about when you're walking around at the grocer? Is he in the cereal aisle getting his Grape Nuts? Does he go to the same church as you too?
I am LOL at all of this. The guy is gone or wouldn't he be posting? Maybe he's watching us all from heaven? He could have died? Wasn't he sick with hepatitis or was that made up?
Have fun.
Ok, back from picking the kids up from youth group.
Perhaps you'd be willing to explain to me, in a post that you addressed to me, the following comments which, by your addressing, were intended to me.
How can someone's mind go to 'porn' from what was a nice conversation going on amongst the "real members."
Or haven't you noticed everything gets turned to a 'dirty' comment? Dancing with stars to porn? And this person wants to fit in and be accepted? No it sounds like they want to cause a stir everytime they post.
You may be watching and waiting. I'm awaiting your reply.
Thanks.
Perhaps you'd be willing to explain to me, in a post that you addressed to me, the following comments which, by your addressing, were intended to me.
How can someone's mind go to 'porn' from what was a nice conversation going on amongst the "real members."
Or haven't you noticed everything gets turned to a 'dirty' comment? Dancing with stars to porn? And this person wants to fit in and be accepted? No it sounds like they want to cause a stir everytime they post.
You may be watching and waiting. I'm awaiting your reply.
Thanks.
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