Jim/Kalio

[ladybug52]

Did you see my reply to Proactive's post on the Forum? Hate to be left hanging when I was so tottttaaalllly right and all!JK! But I didn't think either of you would go down w/o a fight!
"Am I just paranoid or am I being ignored?"
Thankd goodness for OrphanHawk replying or I would really be over the edge.
Bug

[mikesimon]

You're right and when we don't have the benefit of facial expressions and body language we are playing in the dark and the wrong impressions can be made and inferred. I like Myown a lot and I think she knows it or at least suspects it. I wouldn't play around with someone I didn't care for. I am upset that she is upset because TX does change things and I forget about that sometimes. I spent 4.5 years on TX so you'd think the effects would be in my top of the mind awareness but I do forget about it. It's only when I see something that I cannot explain or a reaction that I did not anticipate that it dawns on me that this person is treating and that's probably it. Like I said, I like her and hope she comes back and feels okay about you and about me and about being here. Mike

[jmjm530]

Thanks Mike, it means a lot.

I do remember, however, when I was the object of parody several times when on treatment and I wasn't amused. The difference I think is that the parody of you and MyOwn came out of like, respect and friendship (the parody of me did not) and I think you know that, and hopefully so does MyOwn. Still, parody/humor/satire, is often not easy to convey on the internet where we often don't know the other person very well and are unable to get the normal conversational feedbacks such as voice intonation, body language, etc.

Be well,

-- Jim

[jmjm530]

Your words express my thoughts a lot better than my previous post which may have come off a bit cold.  Still, looking back, the parody was a bad idea for the commotion it caused and I would think twice before doing similar again. I should also know better than trying to play "peacemaker" with two people who are adult enough to deal with it on their own. In trying to make things better, just made it a worse.

All said, I don't let you off the hook Bug since you started this thread :) I tried to leave the whole topic behind from the previous thread, but no, you just had to bring it up again and get my opinion :)

Be well,

-- Jim

[mikesimon]

I didn't think anything you said was malevolent or mean spirited. It was a parody and I found it funny. I was not offended because I think we have been around each other long enough to take a little liberty now and again. Myown has taken liberties like that but perhaps she doesn't realize or remember it or maybe it's the ribavirin. Do we all have to think the same or have the same beliefs and do we all have to have the same sense of humor? What a dreary world that would be! I thought this side of MH was intended for us to have a place to chat and discuss non-HCV related subjects and let our collective hair down. I enjoy it and if it gets a little personal so what? Myown had characterized me as a spoiled rich kid when I don't recall ever suggesting anything like that unless the fact that I am an attorney or have a business is proof of wealth. I wasn't offended - it was all in fun or so I thought. Don't have any self recriminations about this because it was all in fun and most everyone who reads it will see it for what it is - just fun dancing around a very serious and heart breaking disease. Take care Jim. Mike

[mikesimon]

I am very familiar with my Old Testament and I have read your New Testament but I am not as knowledgeable about it. We just see things very differently. I think that's okay as I am not out to convert you to my belief system and furthermore I do not believe that your beliefs will condemn you to eternal damnation. I wonder if you can say the same about me. Since I posted only an excerpt from the article you might have understood better what it said had you taken the time to read it - it is only 4 pages. I generally refrain from discussing this stuff with people who say that they talk with God. I am sure that suicide bombers would say that they talk with God and that they are instructed by God to blow themselves up. Their faith and belief must be very strong but notwithstanding their faith I don't believe they're right. I doubt one could ever reason with that type of believer. How can you argue with them - they must be right because they talk with God. Mike

[ladybug52]

First, I have to apologize because I am guilty for saying in jest, "MS has it bad for you:)" I WAS kidding, and I didn't realize at the time that it was in poor taste. I know MIke loves his wife and you love your husband, but like Jim I didn't know it was embarrassing or compromising your principles to joke about that. I was just trying to make a joke.
You are just hard to read sometimes. We can't see each other and I tell you constantly how funny you are. I think you have a flip, sarcastic dry sense of humor. When we are around someone funny, we respond with humor. We want to be funny too!  Jim was really funny in his parody of you and Mike. I think he probably writes for some comedy series and is filthy rich but keeps it a secret. He meant no harm. He's always been one of your biggest supporters and friends. If you feel like you're the entertainment be flattered! We have enough sadness and pain in our lifes, and laughter and smiles help. It wasn't meant derogatory in any way, nor did it sound like he was trying to put you in a bad light. I have to stop for now. I always considered you a fun intelligent person with strong beliefs, but maybe I really don't know how to get along with you. It doesn't change my opinion of you, I just have to re-evaluate how I interact with you. I thought it was hilarious when you posted "Ladybug is a Liar!" The truth shall set you free! That's why I said it first!
Take care
Bug