Aa
State of the Union Address...thoughts?
I didn't watch the whole thing, but most of it.
It was a good bit of rhetoric, but it did spark some hope, for me personally. I think it was wonderful that all of the different people...from different tragedies/experiences were included. I cried watching the parents of the girl who was just shot and killed, just days after performing at the inaguration. I could see the pain in their eyes. And watching Gabby Gifford just makes me SO sad....God love her. She was just robbed of so much.
You know..it would be SO nice if we could just all take away from it the things that mean something to each of us, without the inevitable media evaluation (bashing/praising) that's coming. Soon, we'll be hearing how many times Obama blinked, how many minutes the applause lasted, what everyone was wearing. Who cares...let's just get down to business, and make this country what it is...a great place with great people from all walks of life.
I wish the President the best...he's got a tough road ahead of him and a lot of issues to face. I would like to see all the leaders stand together and realize that they're playing for the same team. I know it's a pipe dream, but that's okay. I'm feeling patriotic...and having hope is a good thing.
It was a good bit of rhetoric, but it did spark some hope, for me personally. I think it was wonderful that all of the different people...from different tragedies/experiences were included. I cried watching the parents of the girl who was just shot and killed, just days after performing at the inaguration. I could see the pain in their eyes. And watching Gabby Gifford just makes me SO sad....God love her. She was just robbed of so much.
You know..it would be SO nice if we could just all take away from it the things that mean something to each of us, without the inevitable media evaluation (bashing/praising) that's coming. Soon, we'll be hearing how many times Obama blinked, how many minutes the applause lasted, what everyone was wearing. Who cares...let's just get down to business, and make this country what it is...a great place with great people from all walks of life.
I wish the President the best...he's got a tough road ahead of him and a lot of issues to face. I would like to see all the leaders stand together and realize that they're playing for the same team. I know it's a pipe dream, but that's okay. I'm feeling patriotic...and having hope is a good thing.
I think it is hard to find good, motivated employees across the board these days. I really do. From youth to older folks, a strong work ethic seems a quality that can be hard to come by. Not just min. wage earners but throughout all situations.
"Somebody above mentioned something along the lines of "if you pay them more, they will work harder". I can't buy into that. For some, a small percentage, that may be true."
I can testify to that. Some will work harder but my experience has been, I have lost count on how many people I have gotten raises for. They well deserved them at the time. Not much time after they get their raise, they start missing work or slacking off. One even had the audacity to tell me now; he can afford to take off work!
I can testify to that. Some will work harder but my experience has been, I have lost count on how many people I have gotten raises for. They well deserved them at the time. Not much time after they get their raise, they start missing work or slacking off. One even had the audacity to tell me now; he can afford to take off work!
Somebody above mentioned something along the lines of "if you pay them more, they will work harder". I can't buy into that. For some, a small percentage, that may be true.
I've been in management for the last 22 years. In those 22 years, I've never seen that theory work out. In both positions I've held, we often paid more than our competitors with the thought that we would embrace a harder working employee. Truth is, I hired a lot of great workers who took a lot of personal pride in the job they did, simply because their name was on that job at the end of the day.
I have also hired people who could not wait to get off work, did just enough to not get them fired... and that eventually was enough to get them fired. Their intensity began to wane. Those with drive saw the potential for advancement right in front of them. Those people knew that they would be rewarded one way or another for their efforts.
When I was in the bar business, I hired and rehired a guy who had been a professional "smoke jumper". (Those are the guys that jump from airplanes to fight forest fires.) This guy knew a hard days work. When I hired him, he had worked at the club before, in a starting level position. His past experience with us got him rehired and he said the most awkward thing to me when I hired him. "I don't want to advance. I want the bar back position because I know everything there is to know about that job and where I fit in here with that position. I know and understand the wage and it is no problem. I also know that the more I do for the bartenders and the waitresses, the more tip money I put in my pocket. This is about lifestyle. I'm too old to jump from planes and that's what I love to do. This job will allow me to pay the bills, put a little something away and afford me all of the time I want to go camping and fishing."
That guy was as dependable as the second hand on a digital watch. Never had to check on him, and he never left anything undone. It was about work ethic and having his name on that job at the end of the day.
That is a rarity! I hired many people who were great at their jobs. They did what they did for the "team". The ones who didn't last (of their own doing) were the ones who were "above" the job, but tried to stick with it because it was a job. They simply didn't care, and it showed. They were also the ones who could not believe it when they were fired.
I've been in management for the last 22 years. In those 22 years, I've never seen that theory work out. In both positions I've held, we often paid more than our competitors with the thought that we would embrace a harder working employee. Truth is, I hired a lot of great workers who took a lot of personal pride in the job they did, simply because their name was on that job at the end of the day.
I have also hired people who could not wait to get off work, did just enough to not get them fired... and that eventually was enough to get them fired. Their intensity began to wane. Those with drive saw the potential for advancement right in front of them. Those people knew that they would be rewarded one way or another for their efforts.
When I was in the bar business, I hired and rehired a guy who had been a professional "smoke jumper". (Those are the guys that jump from airplanes to fight forest fires.) This guy knew a hard days work. When I hired him, he had worked at the club before, in a starting level position. His past experience with us got him rehired and he said the most awkward thing to me when I hired him. "I don't want to advance. I want the bar back position because I know everything there is to know about that job and where I fit in here with that position. I know and understand the wage and it is no problem. I also know that the more I do for the bartenders and the waitresses, the more tip money I put in my pocket. This is about lifestyle. I'm too old to jump from planes and that's what I love to do. This job will allow me to pay the bills, put a little something away and afford me all of the time I want to go camping and fishing."
That guy was as dependable as the second hand on a digital watch. Never had to check on him, and he never left anything undone. It was about work ethic and having his name on that job at the end of the day.
That is a rarity! I hired many people who were great at their jobs. They did what they did for the "team". The ones who didn't last (of their own doing) were the ones who were "above" the job, but tried to stick with it because it was a job. They simply didn't care, and it showed. They were also the ones who could not believe it when they were fired.
The minimum wage thing irks me.
I will say, I don't have a problem raising it because it's just a normal move, to keep up with inflation, etc.
BUT, to say it needs raised because a person cannot raise a family or 4, 5, 6 on it I strongly disagree. Back to the same argument I suppose. For starters, minimum wage jobs aren't really set up to be a career, or something a person should even PLAN on raising a family on. Historically, those jobs were for HS kids, college kids, and the untrained worker (who maybe was supporting himself).
For me, it goes back to accountability. I don't want to HEAR that a family of 4+ is struggling to make ends meet living off a min wage job, of course they would! It's up to each person to do what they need to to support their family. If you're going to HAVE a family of 4 or whatever, then get an educationm, or seek ouit a trade, and get a higher paying job! No one should be setting out to raise a family on a min wage job. That's insanity!
There are PLENTY of higher paying jobs out there..take the construction field for example...it's impossible to find people to DO those jobs because a lot of people don't want to do that kind of hard, demanding physical labor.
My husband pays well...he'll start someone out at $12 for a general laborer. That's NO experience required...just someone willing to work. He also offers at LEAST a dollar an hour raise every year (usually the first at 6 months). In all our years in business...it's been impossible to find a good laborer. They will last a few weeks or so.
So, while I'm all for the raising of min wage to keep up with our economy, I wholeheartedly disagree that it should be raised to allow people to raise families. Not one person should be okay with that. Basically, we're lowering that bar again by approaching it like that. We're saying..."it's OKAY for you want to raise a family on only a min wage job, so we'll raise it for you.". That's not what a minimum wage job should be about.
Now, believe me, I understand life happens and that sometimes that's all a person can find, maybe they're out of work, whatever. I'm not talking about a transition situation. IN those situations, a person should be eligible for some help. I'm talking about the people who "settle" for these lower paying jobs with no attempt to seek out something better...and complain about struggling.
I will say, I don't have a problem raising it because it's just a normal move, to keep up with inflation, etc.
BUT, to say it needs raised because a person cannot raise a family or 4, 5, 6 on it I strongly disagree. Back to the same argument I suppose. For starters, minimum wage jobs aren't really set up to be a career, or something a person should even PLAN on raising a family on. Historically, those jobs were for HS kids, college kids, and the untrained worker (who maybe was supporting himself).
For me, it goes back to accountability. I don't want to HEAR that a family of 4+ is struggling to make ends meet living off a min wage job, of course they would! It's up to each person to do what they need to to support their family. If you're going to HAVE a family of 4 or whatever, then get an educationm, or seek ouit a trade, and get a higher paying job! No one should be setting out to raise a family on a min wage job. That's insanity!
There are PLENTY of higher paying jobs out there..take the construction field for example...it's impossible to find people to DO those jobs because a lot of people don't want to do that kind of hard, demanding physical labor.
My husband pays well...he'll start someone out at $12 for a general laborer. That's NO experience required...just someone willing to work. He also offers at LEAST a dollar an hour raise every year (usually the first at 6 months). In all our years in business...it's been impossible to find a good laborer. They will last a few weeks or so.
So, while I'm all for the raising of min wage to keep up with our economy, I wholeheartedly disagree that it should be raised to allow people to raise families. Not one person should be okay with that. Basically, we're lowering that bar again by approaching it like that. We're saying..."it's OKAY for you want to raise a family on only a min wage job, so we'll raise it for you.". That's not what a minimum wage job should be about.
Now, believe me, I understand life happens and that sometimes that's all a person can find, maybe they're out of work, whatever. I'm not talking about a transition situation. IN those situations, a person should be eligible for some help. I'm talking about the people who "settle" for these lower paying jobs with no attempt to seek out something better...and complain about struggling.
Nobody insulted anyone. You took the mans opinion and were offended by it. He didn't name you out in his post. Sheesh people.... (Everyone can have an opinion, just as long as it matches yours, eh?)
Sorry Amanda...
That last comment was meant for ORPHANEDHAWK.
And OH... I'm still very curious who I was insulting. It's my opinion, right wrong or indifferent, and if my comment offends "people", then I apologize.
Doesn't make it any less right wrong or indifferent!
That last comment was meant for ORPHANEDHAWK.
And OH... I'm still very curious who I was insulting. It's my opinion, right wrong or indifferent, and if my comment offends "people", then I apologize.
Doesn't make it any less right wrong or indifferent!
You must join this user group in order to participate in this discussion.
You are reading content posted in the News from the past to the future to share and discuss Group
A list of national and international resources and hotlines to help connect you to needed health and medical services.
Herpes sores blister, then burst, scab and heal.
Herpes spreads by oral, vaginal and anal sex.
STIs are the most common cause of genital sores.
Condoms are the most effective way to prevent HIV and STDs.
PrEP is used by people with high risk to prevent HIV infection.
