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Circumcision?
Alexander Zadiel is almost here and we still haven't decided whether or not to have the circumcision. Any opinions on this? Have any of you decided on one for your babies or previous ones? Just wondering if its bad whether we do it or not.
well i think it is much cleaner and lot less infections uncircumcised carry bacteria u be crazy not to do it personal choice
Well one of the reasons I am for it is because I have had many UTI's pre-pregnancy. It started when I got sexually active and I always seem to get them 3-4 days after sex. It got to the point that I needed to take a pill after sex to prevent one. I am a special case being they were so frequent (3-4 a year).
However those males who are circumcised I never seem to have an issue with.
After a few boyfriends I realized that those uncircumcised may have carried the bacteria easier under the foreskin. I just don't find it very surprising that I seem fine with circumcised men.
At first I thought with my ex that he had dirty hands and that he was putting bacteria in me with them. But I would get him to wash his hands before we fooled around and i still would get a UTI regardless.
Of course we can say that any man not cleaning as often as they should can cause bacteria to be passed. Of course you can teach your child to clean the underneath well. However many men do not clean their penis's until their shower which is most times once a day. Leaves a lot of room to carry bacteria around.
Anyways i'm NOT using this as a general fact for EVERY MAN, it is just experience I have had for me. Which is one of the reasons I prefer to circumcise. Out of my experience, this is a re-enforcing factor with me. Even when taught to clean well, I feel uncircumsied penis's can carry bacteria easier. People can disprove this all they like, but I believe what i've seen and been through.
I think there is a lot of good debates and reasons on either side, and in the end it is a personal preference and this is the choice I would make for MY BABY. Others can do whatever they please for whatever reasons they believe in.
However those males who are circumcised I never seem to have an issue with.
After a few boyfriends I realized that those uncircumcised may have carried the bacteria easier under the foreskin. I just don't find it very surprising that I seem fine with circumcised men.
At first I thought with my ex that he had dirty hands and that he was putting bacteria in me with them. But I would get him to wash his hands before we fooled around and i still would get a UTI regardless.
Of course we can say that any man not cleaning as often as they should can cause bacteria to be passed. Of course you can teach your child to clean the underneath well. However many men do not clean their penis's until their shower which is most times once a day. Leaves a lot of room to carry bacteria around.
Anyways i'm NOT using this as a general fact for EVERY MAN, it is just experience I have had for me. Which is one of the reasons I prefer to circumcise. Out of my experience, this is a re-enforcing factor with me. Even when taught to clean well, I feel uncircumsied penis's can carry bacteria easier. People can disprove this all they like, but I believe what i've seen and been through.
I think there is a lot of good debates and reasons on either side, and in the end it is a personal preference and this is the choice I would make for MY BABY. Others can do whatever they please for whatever reasons they believe in.
Sorry, I just had to add this in...it's sort of in keeping with Ashlens comments. I too am a first time mom, and you know, so much of this is trial and error. We just need to keep in mind that the one thing we all have in common is how much we love our children. I have taken some flack on some of the decisions I have made for my son, even though DH and I felt they were in his best interest. I just wish we could support each other a bit more and tear each other apart a bit less. Sorry, don't mean to lecture, it's just one of the things I have found extra difficult in learning how to be a good mother.
Whether you choose circumcision or not, there is always that case where something went wrong. Most of the time it doesn't, but every now and then.
I can give you the opposite side of thing. My SIL opted not to have my nephews circumcised. My older nephew developed infection after infection, and eventually at the age of 5 had to be. Now, is that the norm? Of course not, it's rare. However, had he been circumcised it wouldn't have happened. His story is one of the things that gave us pause in deciding not to circumcise our son. My point is, you can always find something, know what I mean?
I do have to say this...regardless of what Ivy and her partner decide, it is clearly going to be a well thought out decision. Those are always the best ones. We should always think through every decision regarding our children, so whether you choose to or not to, it's already clear your a great mom!!
I can give you the opposite side of thing. My SIL opted not to have my nephews circumcised. My older nephew developed infection after infection, and eventually at the age of 5 had to be. Now, is that the norm? Of course not, it's rare. However, had he been circumcised it wouldn't have happened. His story is one of the things that gave us pause in deciding not to circumcise our son. My point is, you can always find something, know what I mean?
I do have to say this...regardless of what Ivy and her partner decide, it is clearly going to be a well thought out decision. Those are always the best ones. We should always think through every decision regarding our children, so whether you choose to or not to, it's already clear your a great mom!!
The thing is....the rest of us feel just as passionately about it. and trying to insult another person's beliefs is NOT the way to change minds. my husband made the choice for our son. does he remember it? no. does he feel like his choices were violated? no, not at all. I have a friend who was uncircumcised and I remember him being in tears one night after a girl refused to sleep with him upon seeing his uncircumcised penis, and he said he wanted the surgery SO bad but he was terrified of having it now that he's old enough. HE was angery at HIS parents for NOT doing it.
So it's just a matter of how YOU feel about what your son would want. Mostly because once they get older, the choice is taken away because the surgery is SO much harder to recover from as an adult. I think this choice should be up to our husbands, personally not as at all as women. Would we want men choosing if we had some sort of female-altering surgery? NO...we wouldn't. so I think the husbands/fathers should be able to choose...but that's just me.
But my whole point was....it's great that you feel passionate about it. so does everyone else. there's no reason to be rude on EITHER side of this argument....we have to support each other as mothers and remember that we're not going to agree with each other's parenting choices....but that doesn't make any of the choices WRONG. Just remember and respect that DIFFERENT is not necessarily WRONG :).
So it's just a matter of how YOU feel about what your son would want. Mostly because once they get older, the choice is taken away because the surgery is SO much harder to recover from as an adult. I think this choice should be up to our husbands, personally not as at all as women. Would we want men choosing if we had some sort of female-altering surgery? NO...we wouldn't. so I think the husbands/fathers should be able to choose...but that's just me.
But my whole point was....it's great that you feel passionate about it. so does everyone else. there's no reason to be rude on EITHER side of this argument....we have to support each other as mothers and remember that we're not going to agree with each other's parenting choices....but that doesn't make any of the choices WRONG. Just remember and respect that DIFFERENT is not necessarily WRONG :).
I think the point a few of us are trying to make is that the questions ivy_kween88 asked are not what you're answering. Giving someone statistics is fine, but IMO every post you've made seems like you're trying to convince her not to do it. It's her and her other half's decision, not yours. And being that this is a post asking opinions, not what she should do...I think that's where it should end.
It is sad that the little boy died, but like Waitingforgoodnews said...you shouldn't be posting that the cause of death is a circumcision, you aren't an ME as far as I know, and to my knowledge...you didn't perform the autopsy, if there was one.
On that note, people die everyday from various surgerys/simple procedures. Giving birth vaginally can kill a woman, a c-section can kill a woman, having a tooth infection can kill you...there are risks with everything you do, every choice you make has a pro and con. Some have smaller risks than others, but the point is you make the decisions based off how you feel and what you think is best.
The decisions we make as parents are what we think are best for our children. NO ONE can tell us otherwise. It may be one's opinion that something was wrong, or unjustified, but that is there opinion. We as parents have a right to raise our children and make decisions as we see fit...if this were not an option, babies would be taken from parents at birth to be raised by trained, qualified professionals, everyone would be raised the EXACT same, and no one would ever have to lift a finger when it comes to rearing their child.
It is sad that the little boy died, but like Waitingforgoodnews said...you shouldn't be posting that the cause of death is a circumcision, you aren't an ME as far as I know, and to my knowledge...you didn't perform the autopsy, if there was one.
On that note, people die everyday from various surgerys/simple procedures. Giving birth vaginally can kill a woman, a c-section can kill a woman, having a tooth infection can kill you...there are risks with everything you do, every choice you make has a pro and con. Some have smaller risks than others, but the point is you make the decisions based off how you feel and what you think is best.
The decisions we make as parents are what we think are best for our children. NO ONE can tell us otherwise. It may be one's opinion that something was wrong, or unjustified, but that is there opinion. We as parents have a right to raise our children and make decisions as we see fit...if this were not an option, babies would be taken from parents at birth to be raised by trained, qualified professionals, everyone would be raised the EXACT same, and no one would ever have to lift a finger when it comes to rearing their child.
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