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christians are human
do think because christian people get mad thier a fake and not for real
We're human... We have a lot to learn. The more we think and act consciously with conscience, the more we learn.
I think the only difference between a christian getting mad and a non christian getting mad is the christian is forgiven because he acknowledges that Christ died on the Cross for him. All of us are human and were born into sin and tho we may strive to be more Christlike, we are still human and God reminds us that none of us are without sin. No not one. And
Thank God that he looks upon the heart because no body else does. Actually the Bible says Be Angry and Sin Not. How many of us have been successful in that one?
Thank God that he looks upon the heart because no body else does. Actually the Bible says Be Angry and Sin Not. How many of us have been successful in that one?
Hello. Anger is a natural reaction that does have a legitimate place in human nature. Though it may be labeled as a negative emotion, it still has a purpose. Anger is an appropriate reaction to injustice, whether it be towards a murderer who takes the life of a friend or relative, or a corrupt private corporation or government that is responsible for devastating someones retirement. The thing to avoid is harboring anger, which becomes resentment, and ultimately harms the one who is upset, not the one who is the source. This is the premise for forgiveness as a means of healing. Additionally, therein lies the Christian ideal of hating the sin, but loving the sinner. But anger is also a catalyst for change. In this respect, it inspires the enacting of laws, repercussions for those that seek to harm others, and even revolutions. No one should be allowed to infringe on the basic rights of others, but also, no one should be considered to be unworthy of prayer. GM
:-) we can break it down if you like. The neat thing with discussions is there is no grading on right/wrong answers, just a willing heart and mind to try understand what you are interested in.
This started out with a poll question on whether people think a christian who gets mad is a fake one. The consensus seems to be "no"...that Christian or not, people are human and anger is an emotion. I think it can be a motivator for change when things are not right such a racial issues where some one is treated unfairly because of their skin color or other types of discrimination.
An example of Jesus in the temple getting angry at the money changers was a "godly" example of anger. It is good to examine what types of anger there are....but the fact remains that we are imperfect and not to lay claim to an excuse to do/be anything...but we are in process of learning.
You are welcome to share your perspective. I enjoy reading your insights :-))
This started out with a poll question on whether people think a christian who gets mad is a fake one. The consensus seems to be "no"...that Christian or not, people are human and anger is an emotion. I think it can be a motivator for change when things are not right such a racial issues where some one is treated unfairly because of their skin color or other types of discrimination.
An example of Jesus in the temple getting angry at the money changers was a "godly" example of anger. It is good to examine what types of anger there are....but the fact remains that we are imperfect and not to lay claim to an excuse to do/be anything...but we are in process of learning.
You are welcome to share your perspective. I enjoy reading your insights :-))
This discussion is just passed over my head. Will tade of revision to get the gist of the suvject.Somebdy commented that science creates energy, movment where as spirituality gives direction.contiol.contolling is not checking, it is measurin the the current affiir and adjust in a best manner.
This explantion is simple and if meditated on , it will clear many conceps of our life events.
This explantion is simple and if meditated on , it will clear many conceps of our life events.
All good points. If a person seems to be always angry, snapping at others over everything ...it is a symptom of a bigger problem. If we see someone is acting like that, a caring attitude would lead another Christian to pray for them and seek a considerate manner in which to approach the person to seek counseling or if they want to talk to someone....being a safe person to listen or suggesting counseling, etc.
In the matter of sin, there is a model given, where you approach the person privately, then if they don't listen, bring another church member....
Matthew 18:15-20 "If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone.
(Matthew 18:15-20 (King James Version)
15Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican..... )
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Where we as humans run into difficulties are the differing ways in which we see things. What is sin to one and makes them angry may not be to another.
My understanding of it is that if something causes another to stumble, a person shouldn't do it in such a way that a brother/sister is grieved to the point it causes much anguish.
Taken from the Bible:
Romans 14
The Weak and the Strong
1Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. 2One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
9For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. 10You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11It is written:
" 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,
'every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will confess to God.' "[a] 12So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.
13Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. 14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food[b] is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died. 16Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. 17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.
19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.
22So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.
Footnotes:
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My view: I am thinking how debates can be endless and take the focus over getting other things done. I think we can see from what goes on around us in our homes to churches, to other types of dealings that emotions get heated up and some just have to be right......have to have the last word.......have to be heard......etc., etc. Some leave scratching their heads wondering how did it get so far from the original intention????
So ....back to the original question that started this thread:
do think because christian people get mad thier a fake and not for real
yes
no
only god can judge them
it a straight front(faking )
.......... No
In the matter of sin, there is a model given, where you approach the person privately, then if they don't listen, bring another church member....
Matthew 18:15-20 "If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone.
(Matthew 18:15-20 (King James Version)
15Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican..... )
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Where we as humans run into difficulties are the differing ways in which we see things. What is sin to one and makes them angry may not be to another.
My understanding of it is that if something causes another to stumble, a person shouldn't do it in such a way that a brother/sister is grieved to the point it causes much anguish.
Taken from the Bible:
Romans 14
The Weak and the Strong
1Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. 2One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
9For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. 10You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11It is written:
" 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,
'every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will confess to God.' "[a] 12So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.
13Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. 14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food[b] is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died. 16Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. 17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.
19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.
22So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.
Footnotes:
.......
______________________________________________
My view: I am thinking how debates can be endless and take the focus over getting other things done. I think we can see from what goes on around us in our homes to churches, to other types of dealings that emotions get heated up and some just have to be right......have to have the last word.......have to be heard......etc., etc. Some leave scratching their heads wondering how did it get so far from the original intention????
So ....back to the original question that started this thread:
do think because christian people get mad thier a fake and not for real
yes
no
only god can judge them
it a straight front(faking )
.......... No
tbabi20, you bring up a good point. We are supposed to bring to attention a sin to another Christian but in a loving, gentle way. If they won't listen to us the bible says we are to get some of the elders of the church to approach this person. If they won't listen to the elders then they are supposed to be put out of the church to let Satans refine them in the hopes that will make them repent.
One time I had a concern about a behavior I saw in a person who was disrupting a meeting to the point I couldn't hear the speaker and when I approached the speaker afterwards and said I enjoyed listening to her but that it was hard to hear her because how loud and disruptive this other person was being she said "Oh, that's just the way she worships". But the bible says we are to be orderly. His church is not to be chaotic or confusing or disruptive.
It's a good idea to pray first before approaching anyone and confess any sin in your own life and wait on the Lord to direct you on what He wants you to do. But we are supposed to pray for people, even our enemies, because God can do miracles and change hearts, even the coldest of hearts. Prayer is powerful and it's there for us to use.
As to the original question I believe anger is a God given emotion just like love, sadness, grief, joy, but we have to be responsible in how we conduct ourselves while angry. It's not ok to hurt someone else because we're angry. The bible says to not let the sun go down on our anger. We do have to work out our differences when we can and give the rest to God.
One time I had a concern about a behavior I saw in a person who was disrupting a meeting to the point I couldn't hear the speaker and when I approached the speaker afterwards and said I enjoyed listening to her but that it was hard to hear her because how loud and disruptive this other person was being she said "Oh, that's just the way she worships". But the bible says we are to be orderly. His church is not to be chaotic or confusing or disruptive.
It's a good idea to pray first before approaching anyone and confess any sin in your own life and wait on the Lord to direct you on what He wants you to do. But we are supposed to pray for people, even our enemies, because God can do miracles and change hearts, even the coldest of hearts. Prayer is powerful and it's there for us to use.
As to the original question I believe anger is a God given emotion just like love, sadness, grief, joy, but we have to be responsible in how we conduct ourselves while angry. It's not ok to hurt someone else because we're angry. The bible says to not let the sun go down on our anger. We do have to work out our differences when we can and give the rest to God.
I think it's a little different though with God getting mad. He has a right to, he can judge and he alone knows fully what's in the heart.
I guess none of us can be called real christians then because we all get mad. I agree we all fall short but we press on and pray that God will help us do better.
I can say though that there is one person who goes to my church that I don't want to judge but seems to me to be really fake. I don't know why but he ALWAYS picks on me and shows a special christian face to elders & pastors and when he's teaching; but then when he's just with the youth he's arrogant, angry and mean. I can't help but feel some kinda way about him; but I'm asking God to help me with people like him because he may be the person I live beside in heaven lol. I think maybe I should say something because being a christian is not allowing people to continue with destructive attitudes and behaviours but helping others grow into the character of God. Hey I would appreciate if someone loved me enough to call me on my errors - maybe that's what we need to do in a loving way.
It's difficult, I often ask myself how to conduct myself with people who are mean and heartless because I know that leaving them to continue doing that is not what's best but yet I know that showing anger towards them back will make people think I'm that way too. Sometimes when I get mad at people I think about how they would receive me if I went to their door to witness lol. I don't want to be a stumbling block or hinder someone from believing in Jesus because of how I acted.
I guess none of us can be called real christians then because we all get mad. I agree we all fall short but we press on and pray that God will help us do better.
I can say though that there is one person who goes to my church that I don't want to judge but seems to me to be really fake. I don't know why but he ALWAYS picks on me and shows a special christian face to elders & pastors and when he's teaching; but then when he's just with the youth he's arrogant, angry and mean. I can't help but feel some kinda way about him; but I'm asking God to help me with people like him because he may be the person I live beside in heaven lol. I think maybe I should say something because being a christian is not allowing people to continue with destructive attitudes and behaviours but helping others grow into the character of God. Hey I would appreciate if someone loved me enough to call me on my errors - maybe that's what we need to do in a loving way.
It's difficult, I often ask myself how to conduct myself with people who are mean and heartless because I know that leaving them to continue doing that is not what's best but yet I know that showing anger towards them back will make people think I'm that way too. Sometimes when I get mad at people I think about how they would receive me if I went to their door to witness lol. I don't want to be a stumbling block or hinder someone from believing in Jesus because of how I acted.
There are different types of "mad" "angry". Jesus got mad over his Father's temple being used in an inappropriate way. God has gotten angry and destroyed man, etc.
You can ask others what if any "godly" types of anger there are as well as ungodly.
I think we are imperfect. I also think that once a true Christian realizes the sin/mistake he or she will admit and ask forgiveness from God and/or the person if someone is involved or seek ways to right a wrong.
You can ask others what if any "godly" types of anger there are as well as ungodly.
I think we are imperfect. I also think that once a true Christian realizes the sin/mistake he or she will admit and ask forgiveness from God and/or the person if someone is involved or seek ways to right a wrong.
sorry forgot the word all
we all fall short of the glory of god
we all fall short of the glory of god
we fall short of the glory of god.
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