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What do you consider "truth" to be?
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:-))  Thank you for sharing from who you are.
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I have been having powerful chestpains that would start from the center and spread through all my extremidies  for about 7 months.  No reason at all. Recently I went on quest for new and better technolgy, well try to make it anyway or theory.  I found a man who truly understood the path of the electron and graphed it so it can be visualized and understood(Marko Rodin).  That same design is the same of the earth when viewing the electromagnetic field.  This lead me too satilite images of the North and South poles(amazing) it has holes. Then crop circles, lost city of atlantis,  Scribes of Ancient Sumeria and there predictions of PlanetX,  Mayan Calaender, and on and on and on.

Your pains are spirtually in nature.  A veil of secrecy is falling before your eyes.  The positive charge is calling you back to its love.  If you except its love and truly embrace it you find yourself an instrutment for instilling powerful values which will spread to every individual you are capable of reaching.  And in turn they will do the same.

Electricty will help explain what it is in a simply way.

Positive charge in nature fans out and explores and finds itself returning to a negative form gradually only wanting to come back to a positive state.

This is the source of the never ending electron.
Hence Infinite.  Always was and always will be.
From smallest(atom) to the largest(Cosmos)
It is us and we are it, In a way to learn itself ,just as a child learns to crawl then run.  We are children, with brothers in the skys.

Its time to wake up.  Its not too late.

I truly hope this will help you all on your journey.

Oh by the way my two brothers started to feel the same way as if someone was standing on there chest.

I haven't given them this same message yet, I have to move slow or will be ignored


Beware the bearer of false gifts and promises.
Sucumb to the inner better more loving self.

If you feel that anything I explained and described can help someone else on there journey feel free to use my words as they are truly your words as well.

I was not searching for god.  Caring and wanting to help mankind helped me find my way it will help you find yours.
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Love it!!!

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I see life in bits n pieces with glimpses of things that led me here or there.  Awareness early on as to another dimension.  Also reaching out to understand things around me.  Loved reading fairy tales and biographies later...connection to Indians (Sioux, etc.)...felt sad about the land being taken from them and them being cheated.  Devised my own super hero...Sun Man who would get the land back.  I was tom-boyish & loved being outside and animals, horses in particular along with cats.  So there was a connection to others, the earth, the past, and old people.  Loved old people early on...they were like walking "books".  Had a vivid imagination.

Raised by Aunt & Uncle & Grandma.  Aunt & Uncle went to the Catholic Church but I was to go to the Lutheran Church.  Didn't find out till years later that Grandma had insisted.  Grandpa came from Malmo Sweden but never passed on history to us so we have a dead end.  My older sister & I remember Grandma & Aunt speaking Yiddish as a child but once again, nothing went further than their lips.

I was intuitive & sensitive to the surrounding & felt an awareness of God.  Grandma would point at me and say...He sees you!!!  Many years later I was delighted to find out that one of God's names is El Roi.  I lived with a live sense that He saw all I did so it made for interesting experiences....along the way.....Jehovah Witnesses, Penecostal, and eventually out of the church for a very lonnnnnnng time.  Asked Jesus into my heart in early 20's....had that mountain top experience where everything became more vivid and all of a sudden "words" would pop into my thinking and to go look them up.  I quickly realized that many of us use words not knowing the meaning.  I started feeling the need to write poetry then.

Will stop with that....leaves me in my early 20's...stranded...lol!!!!
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"However, to ease you in, I will be gentle and offer you the opportunity to share how "spirituality" your belief has helped you thus far in your life.  What challenges did you face along the way?  Did you consider another way or is this "the one" that must stay in place as it is at home in your heart/mind? "

OK, that should be about 100 pages (g)!
I'll start with the last question first. I'm a child of the 60's and 70's. It was a period of spiritual seeking and confusion, and I dappled in a number of "alternative religious experiences".
However, i went to Brooklyn College, part of the City University of New York. In 1970, Brooklyn College, adding together all it's programs, had 33,000 students. Over 85% of us were Jewish, It made Brooklyn College the largest Jewish student body on the face of the Earth! and we represented every branch of the American Jewish experience, from totally secular to Ultra-Orthodox.
During my freshman year, I got involved in the Hillel Foundation, the Jewish Student's organization with it's own building just off campus.(One of the side streets leading up to the campus is called Hillel Place. It was very "middle of the road", but we were unique of all Hillel's in the US - we had TWO rabbis instead of the usual one. Not because of the size of the campus, but the regional director had his office there. He was orthodox, and the local Hillel Director was reform. Rabbi Frimer, the orthodox rabbi (Jews will think I'm making that name up, since the Yiddish word for Orthodox is "Frum" also pronounced "Frim" - but that WAS the man's name!) was very involved in local events.

A lot of what I know about Judaism I learned at Brooklyn College Hillel, or during a course in Midevle Jewish history I took in the history department. I had been considered being a history major until I took that course and got a C - it was my first history elective, and NOT a good sign, but then I had a brilliant teacher.)

I also learned a lot during my studies for my Masters in Social Work, which I got at Yeshivah University. Some of the courses had a Jewish twist to them, so I learned ethics from a Jewish point of view, for example.

During my childhood, my family was what i jokingly call "nominally Orthodox" (my only sibling uses the phrase now, too). WHEN we went to synagogue, it was an Orthodox one, what today is called "Modern Orthodox" - but we rarely went.. I was the only one of my cousins on either side of the family to have an Orthodox Bar-Mitzvah.

From 13 to college my sister and I worked to get my folks to observe more holidays, even if it was only partially. We had heard someone use the phrase "levels of Observance" and that made us feel that it was acceptable to practice Judaism "less than perfectly Orthodox". I still feel that way.

After my sister and i graduated from college, my father's work took him back to Florida (St. Pete). I say 'back' because I had been born in Key West, which makes me more Southern than anyone else! (g)

Before my parents left NYC, I had moved out, and was already struggling with my sexuality. After they moved to Florida, I began to drink heavily to try to drown out my confusion, and confused memories of childhood abuse by strangers. Heavy drinking is very much socially stigmatized among Jews. I kept my drinking secret even from my sister, who now lived in New Jersey.

After i learned to accept myself as gay, my drinking continued as a periodic thing - whenever I wasn't in a relationship. My friends joked that i turned serial monogamy into an art form.

In 1981, a sweet young (7 years my junior, but still an adult) Jewish man  who I had first met 2 years earlier suggested that we date. JUST date- no sex. And I agreed.

A few months later, i asked him to stay in the apartment to take care of my dog and cat an plants while I went to Florida. And he never left. Like i said to him this afternoon "Sometime I turn around and look at you and say to myself 'How the hell did we do it? 28 years! Well, whatever we're doing, it's working out right, so we shouldn't make the mistake of asking the centipede  how he walks."

(old joke - if you asked him, he'd get so confused trying to figure  it out, he'd never be able to do it again) ;-)

I got sober in AA on Leap Day, 1984. Years earlier, I had been involved in NY's gay synagogue, in a leadership position, but had stopped when my drinking escalated.

When I was in grad school, I was preparing a presentation on Substance Abuse in the American Jewish Community, and got in contact with JACS - "Jewish Alcoholics, Chemically dependent and Significant others".It was then a struggling, independent organization, but is now a program  of the largest Jewish social service agency in the country. Their main function, other than education, is to hold two weekend "Spiritual Retreats"a year.

It was a number of years before I went to a one day event, and I found a wonderful group of diverse people, so I went to the next retreat, and made some life long friends. Through this, I ended up at a Chassidic Wedding (the daughter of one of our members) and being the adopted brother of a dear friend from our mutual the first retreat who is a Jew By Choice (a convert) when she married, holding one of the poles of the Chuppah - the wedding canopy - while her spouse's 3 sisters held the other ones.

I was also dragged by a JACS friend to a Egalitarian Conservative synagogue to see their new openly lesbian rabbi - before that had been 'approved' by the Conservative movement. Rabbi Carter wasn't so much open as her being gay was the worse kept secret in Brooklyn.I did NOT join because the rabbi was gay, or because there were so many lesbian and gay members.

I joined because it was a warm, welcoming house of prayer which was "just right". I found the Reform services I went to with my sisters to be "Judaism Light", while Orthodox services are too long, and my Hebrew is moderate, not excellent. I LIKE some English in the service. I also like mixed seating, and women being equals in the services.

I also like the congregation (The Park Slope Jewish Center) because it is participatory. Members volunteer to lead parts of the services, or to read from the Torah. (I even learned how to do that - I'm TERRIBLE at it - I keep mixing up the arcane musical symbolism - but I've done it a few times.) And, as I said, members give the "D'var Torah" - their explanation of that week's readings.I like doing THAT! I always learn something new.

A few years ago, i jointly wrote the D'var Torah for the anniversary of my Bar Mitzvah with a woman who was observing the 10th Anniversary of her father's death the same weekend, and studying for the rabbinate.Bella wanted me to give the actual talk, but she picked the theme. The story of Billam and his talking She-*** as seen from the point of view of domestic violence. So we gave  a "sermon" on domestic violence while talking about that story.

Is this the "one' way? I think that for a Jew it is. But our laws were given to us so that we could be a light to the world, teaching them that there is but One G*d, and that the world has a covenant with G*d made with Noah - the simple laws given to Noah in return for a promise to never wipe out humanity again. Only that section of Genesis applies to other people - the rest is for us to remember that we were "chosen" for just one job - to bear witness.

that is what the phrase "The Chosen People" means. Not that we are better than anyone else, but that we have a special burden on us.ANYONE can become one of us by Choice. Very few choose to take up our burden.

(Yes, we discourage converts - a left over from Roman laws after Christianity became the State Religion of Rome. We debate dropping it all the time  - but after 2000 years, habit becomes Law.)

Ike
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Thank you:-)  Well, when you say you will attempt to answer our questions about Judaism, you may regret saying that :-))))

I am very interested in it and the questions would be "never-ending".  However, to ease you in, I will be gentle and offer you the opportunity to share how "spirituality" your belief has helped you thus far in your life.  What challenges did you face along the way?  Did you consider another way or is this "the one" that must stay in place as it is at home in your heart/mind?

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Either that, or I will start giving "D'vrai Torah" ("words on the Torah" -not a sermon, more like a lecture, but it can be sermon-ish) on the weekly Portion. Traditional oriented congregations, even liberal ones, do not have sermons, but a weekly "lesson', and an increasing number of synagogues ask members to give the lesson. After all, that;s the "speech" Bar and Bat Mitzvah kids traditionally give. An explanation of that week's reading as seen from the eyes of a 13 year old."new adult".

A Quick Explanation:
The Five Books of Moses, aka "The Torah" (The Law) is read in synagogues worldwide in a traditional annual cycle. We even have a minor holiday in the fall celebrating that cycle, when we read the last chapter and the first chapter, making it an actual cycle.
In ancient times (it is not clear exactly when) readings from the Prophets (mostly) were selected, mostly to illustrate some point about the weekly reading, but some of the "Haftorahs" as these are called are about events in the Liturgical Calendar.

Want to get confused (even more)?
To shorten the already long Sabbath service, liberal synagogues (Reform, Conservative and Reconstructionist, here in the USA) split the weekly readings into a triennial cycle (three years).   But we still want to celebrate that holiday (Simchat Torah) each year. It's a big favorite, especially with kids. So we reading 1/3 of each weekly Torah reading each year - the first 1/3 of each reading the first year, the second third the next year... Otherwise we'd have to celebrate that "Cycle" Holiday every three years!

By the way, if anyone has any questions about Judaism, ask me - I may not know the answer all the time, but I AM better than averagely educated.

My cousin's husband keeps asking me when i'm going to become a rabbi - my problem is I have a learning problem with Hebrew. - the grammar past the present tense defeats me.
And let's not forget the tense called "The past prophetic'

Ike
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You are a welcome addition here.  You are bringing us full circle and will flesh in some important things, I think.

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Before someone gets excited: we all agree what the Hebrew word means. It is an unusual Hebrew word for "Labor" which appears twice int the Five Books in two totally different contexts.

The first is with the prohibitions to perform labor on the Sabbath.

The second is a list of the "forms of labor used to build the tabernacle in the wilderness".

We are all pretty much in agreement that the list of labors used to create G*d's temporary Abode on Earth is the list of the forbidden forms of labor.

what we found to say for the following 5000 years was: What can we learn from that as a general rule to judge if another form of labor which didn't exist in the wilderness - say, driving a car - is forbidden or allowed.

I should explain - for us, debate is an art form 5000 years old. Our holy books (The Talmud) even record the loosing arguments.

A very tired Ike at 4:45 AM

who has been known to give a lesson on the weekly Reading at my Synagogue (Egalitarian Conservative).
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Truth:

I have a magnet on my desk which I just bought this week in a Dollar Store (the magnet - not the desk )
It has no attribution but it says, on a photo of a foggy woods:

'WORDS ARE THE FOG ONE HAS TO SEE THROUGH"

As someone attempting to become a writer, I liked that thought - but I also thought about "WORDS" and "TRUTH"

Truth can also be like fog -one has to see THROUGH it.

As a Jew, I often wonder if that is why our Torah - our Holy Law - the Five Books of Moses often repeats the same law a number of times, but with slightly different wording. Because "Words are fog" and "truth is fog" and someplace in the interface - we can find the WAY to understand G*d's will for us.

That, by the way, is why it is impossible to post the Ten Commandments in public places. It appears TWICE in the Torah  - and the Hebrew wording is different Add to the confusion any attempt to get consensus on an English translation for ONE of those versions, and...

Get my point???

'WORDS ARE A FOG"   But although the Word of G*d is Truth - it is still WORDS, and therefore subject to confusion.

I'll give you one tiny example. My People have spent 5000 years debating what the commandment to do no "labor" on the Sabbath EXACTLY means. We have produced thousands of pages of commentary on the subject.

There are four major denominations of Judaism in the US, and we all disagree on what that one WORD "labor" - in Hebrew" means. To say nothing of the sub-denominations.

We all believe "with a perfect Faith" (in the words of Rabbi Maimonides's "Principles of Faith") that it IS the TRUTH. We just can't agree on what that Truth is.

Or any truth, except that there is One G*d, Creator of heaven and Earth.
Somehow or other, we all manage to agree on that one Truth..

which gives ME hope that we can find a second TRUTH to agree on before the Messiah comes, and answers ALL of our doubts.

Ike
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Somewhere I wrote some thoughts on the different types of truth.  Specifically, according to some spiritual systems there are 2 types of truth.  A "truth" that is almost like a "math" truth.  Meaning that according to all the names, values, and attributes that humans have cataloged, something is "true"

The other type of truth is one that would always be true.  No matter when, where, how, who, etc. etc.  It is a "pure" truth that would be "true" even if we were not here to observe it.

But I cannot remember where I saved the file, Duuurrrr!

I can't remember which religious system it is right now, does this ring a bell for anyone?
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I consider the truth to be hard to find.

lol
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