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I subscribed to the dbt class and was accepted.
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I'm not sure which one to join i have found a few i also had problems setting up a yahoo account so i need to try again.
What one did you join?
I'm not good at computers either but i'll try and work it out.
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I typed yahoo health groups into the search bar.  Then I typed in dbtclass.  There was only one result for that one.
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Hi, i got it so i am waiting to hear back from them to see if i am accepted. I am sick at the minute with a chest infection it would also explain the tiredness, i had to call my GP for an emergency appointment today i found it so hard to breathe, so now i have to take antibiotics i hate medication but i also hate finding it hard to breathe.
Did you have to wait long to hear back?
I have my therapist tomorrow i am so anxious about what he will say, maybe i am worrying over nothing.
How are things with you?
I hope you have a good day. Take care
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I had to wait about a day.  Hopefully they will accept you.  If not we can go through some of the stuff ourselves if you want.
I wouldn't stress about what your T is going to say or not say.  Stressing won't change the situation.
I'm sorry to hear you have a chest infection.  Not being able to breathe is never nice.
I have had severe asthma in the past and it can be extremely frightening and frustrating.

I have just gotten back from feeding the animals.  It is quite cold outside.  The sun is out which is nice though.
I also see my GP in a couple of hours.

Not sleeping very well may account for the tiredness too.

Psych meds are not all that different to say an antibiotic.

Take care.
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They asked me more questions about why i was interested in joining i didn't know what to write yet. Therapy went ok it was very upsetting though, he thinks i need to go back for psychotherapy again to deal with my past issues before i can move forward, he said thats why the trauma therapy isn't helping. He said he needs to talk more to me about the questionaire but he wasn't finished assessing it, he also asked would i feel rejected by him if he refers me on i said yeah a bit, although i know he is right.
He said i'm not ready to leave him yet and he is working out a care plan that we can work on together. I think i feel like he is actually doing something helpful at last, he is listening to me more, he said my issues go a lot deeper than he ever thought and that the work he has been doing has just been dealing with the symptoms not the core problems which is why i never get any better.
I keep forgetting its your winter, its lovely here today.
Yeah, not sleeping definelty doesn't help either it was 3am this morning i was still awake but i slept late then.
How did it go with your GP?
I have given up on the antibiotic i knew i would i panicked more than usual and blamed the medication so typical of me.
I hope you have a good day. Take care
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I get frustrated hearing about how incompetent your treatment team is.  I'm sure they could have assessed and sorted all this stuff out ages ago.  To not have answers to your questionnaire is rubbish.  How long would it have taken him to do that?  I think it's a cop out and he should have known you would be extremely anxious about it.  To make you wait longer seems inexcusable in my opinion.

I just wrote that I was interested in making my life move forward.  If you want you can always say that I thought it would be beneficial for you.  You can use my name if you like.

I was so anxious I forgot to discuss stuff with my GP.  Pretty stupid aye.  Oh well.  I guess there's always next week.  I was also wanting to ask about why I have been feeling so tired.  Anxiety, iron deficiency, some other deficiency, etc.  ??

The anxiety and fear is only about the meaning you give to the medication.  If you are not allergic to it, which you probably would have found out by now, you should continue taking it.  If you were having trouble breathing then you must have needed them.  Finish the course.  They say to always finish a course of antibiotics.
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I was really annoyed at him too i was anxious the whole week and i even took a panic attack when i was with him, then he had me fill out another form about ptsd.
I suppose maybe the good thing about seeing someone else they might be more consistent and actually do something useful, i will really miss him though and i'm not sure if i can build a relationship with someone else like i have with him, trust is a big issue for me.
I do that sometimes with my GP i can't wait to get out of his office and then when i leave i remember what i was supposed to say.
I took another dose of the antibiotic yesterday i am trying to convince myself its ok to take them and when i went shopping yesterday my chest was sore so i think i really need them.
I might use your name i wasn't sure what to say and my therapist holding back hasn't been much good, i really don't understand the man its almost as if he is afraid of me or how i'll react to things.
Still not much sleep 2am this morning then i woke to my partner shouting at the children about something and then the neighbours children were shouting when they left for school so i was awake from about 7am again..
My therapist and social worker are of on leave in July and i'm anxious already he usually is of for about three weeks that will be an interesting time
Anxiety does cause tiredness and you have alot of things going on maybe that causes it as well. Are you going to go to your nephew's birthday this weekend? Things like that make me really anxious.
I am supposed to be going to town today but i'm so tired and then my daughter has a hospital appointment, i would rather go back to bed.
I hope you have a good day. Take care
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I got accepted for the class, it will take me a while to understand how it works though. I used your name so maybe thats what worked. I have my social worker tomorrow maybe she will make some sense about the whole thing. Take care
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I hope so.  The stuff may be confusing to start with.  If you need any help or want to discuss things here or privately, feel free.
I want to go and watch my crappy TV program.  Back later.
I went to the dentist today and it was better than expected.  I had been stressing so much.
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I'm glad it went well at the dentist, i am so scared of the dentist.
My laptop is playing up so if i'm not on for a while you will know why, also i am going for respite on Monday until Wednesday.
My social worker said i need to decide what to do next about the therapy so it looks like i will be leaving my therapist i really don't want to, i feel really let down he said he could help but obviously not, i feel its by fault i must be too difficult to help.
Anyway she will still be supporting me which is something, it has taken me all these years to build the relationship i have with my therapist and now i'm expected to start all over again, its really unfair, i don't know if i can cope with what they are asking of me. I wonder will he even finish the trauma work.
It makes me even more depressed now thinking of what lies ahead, can't they see that?
The weather was lovely today we went to the lakes and my youngest two played in the water it was actually relaxing for a while.
I need to read the information more on the class, i will let you know if i don't understand anything, thanks. I hope you have a good day. Take care
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If your therapy is being transferred to someone else then I expect they would do the trauma work with you.  Have you ever had therapy with a female?  Would that make the relationship and work easier?
Better to start again and build a good foundation than to have the house you have already built on the sand continually eroding and washing away.

Just take one thing at a time.  You have coped through other stuff.  You will get through this too.

We had several calves yesterday.  They are quite cute.  I have been busy trying to take some of the pressure off my parents.  Have my nephew's birthday today.  I'm not looking forward to that.  

Respite should be good.  I hope it is becoming less stressful for you.

I have been feeling pretty bad but actually don't feel too bad at the moment.  Dreading going to this party which is made worse because I'm putting on weight and can barely fit my clothes.  Not a good thing.

I hope you have a good weekend.  The lake sounds beautiful.  Maybe you could try and do more of that.
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I went back to the lakes today after waking up in my usual mood of not wanting to be here, i also went for a walk when i got up to try and feel better, we had a bbq at the lakes and i got to much sun now i regret not putting on more cream.
How did your nephew's party go, i hope you were able to enjoy it.
I am really anxious about having a new therapist but i have been trying to think of it as a new start and sometimes i feel like my therapist could have listened more, maybe this one will, it will take a few months for the referral to go through and my therapist is hoping to see me for a week or two when i see the new one just to give me that extra support until i feel a bit more comfortable with the new therapist. I don't like the thought of the trauma work being left in the open the way it is, i still have terrible nightmares and other strange intrusive thoughts.
Yeah respite is becoming less stressful at last, i actually am finding the time alone quite relaxing, i think the crisis intervention weekend there helped me in a way to feel safer there, home was not safe that weekend.
The calves sound cute, is it winter with you yet or still autumn.
I have put on weight to so i can understand how you feel, i try walking to tell myself at least i'm trying, doesn't stop me eating though unfortunately.
I hope your day went well. Take care
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Oh dear.  It's always the way, isn't it?  Sun sounds great though because it wet here.  Was bucketing down overnight.
It went OK.  It was good to see him interacting with his little friends.  He really likes one of the girls.  He was a little sulky and quiet after she left for a bit.
My brother-in-law is probably a little depressed.  My sister is worried about him.

Therapy should turn out OK in the end.  If your current T has problems knowing what to do then having someone else manage your care seems for the best.  I can sympathize with how difficult it must be for you though.  I think I may have problems with interacting with a new T -if or when I get one.
Keep working through the issues and the thoughts will become less intrusive.

Winter.  The calves are really tiny due to lack of feed due to the drought.

I'm not getting that energy balance right.  Still eating too much.  I need to do something to change that.  I think that therapy will help with this.  Until then ... I'll keep trying other stuff.
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Depression seems to affect everyone its an awful illness.
I am glad the party went ok its good to get out of the house sometimes.
I went for a walk today again, still depressed though i think i've had my three or four good days and i have come down again, my social worker is so patronising, she said if you know thats the way it goes then you need to do something about it, is she stupid, if i knew what to do i would obviously do it.
I have been thinking alot about my therapist and i am going to ask him what choice's do i have if i don't go to psychotherapy, i really want him to finish what he started first but instead i feel like i am being forced out, i hate that.
I was at my parents today as its Fathers Day and they don't care about me either and now my therapist is giving up there's not much hope for me.
I'm sure it will be hard to when you get a new therapist, its hard getting to know someone else and trusting them.
The weather is nice today but i can't go out too much sun yesterday and my shoulders ache, its my own fault though.
I have just realised what has set me of this time, the neighbour grabbed my 3yr old son and threw him out of the garden, my partner wouldn't let me go over because i was so angry, i wanted to call the police but my partner said no. They have a son and a daughter but the man is evil he tried to start an argument with my 14yr old one day as well and its over nothing, they just aren't good people, things like that really annoy me when i feel so powerless there is nothing i can do about it.
Anyway sorry for going on, at least i know what set me of this time.
I hope you have a good day, i have respite tomorrow, i don't really want to go though.
Take care
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I've been there too.  A T made me learn the dbt skills but before distress tolerance had been covered I was told to use distress tolerance skills.  What?  Seriously?  Useless.

No, it's good that you can identify what has caused things to ?deteriorate or upset you.  This is good.  Really good.  I think it is a real step forward, even if it doesn't feel like one.

People do care.  Many people just care in different ways.
I once overheard my mum saying she didn't care if I died.  that seems a bit brutal coming from a  mother but I know that she does care.  We all just have trouble communicating.

I see my GP today so need to go get ready.  Sorry for the rushed post.
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I hope it goes well with your GP and that you have a good day.
Yeah i guess it is good that i can identify what upset me and knowing what it was made it easier to deal with it, i went for another walk a longer one this time, i was anxious but i trying to focus on where i was going, my mind is ahead of my body though i want to do more but i am so unfit but i guess i am making a start by walking.
I am glad you can still see that your mum cares even though she said that, if feels terrible when it feels like no one cares.
My social worker thinks if i can like myself more and be content in myself then i won't be so worried if people care or not, easy for her to say.
I hope all goes well today. Take care
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Your SW is right.  It takes time though and until you make some more changes and move forward the comments can feel hurtful.

My appointment with my GP went pretty badly.  I was anxious and ?? frustrated and flustered.  I just about got up and left.  At one point he said the consult wasn't being very helpful and I was taking my frustration out on him and we would end it there.  I got up to leave, snatched the script out of his hand and said thank you.  He said he didn't think I meant the thank you.  I went back and discussed stuff a little more.  I wasn't very polite and used language I wouldn't generally use, especially not in public.  Bad day.

I also just went and got some vegetables out of the garden for dinner.  Mum said I was wasting half of the leeks and silver beet.  I cut the stalks off the silverbeet (probably because I worry about the calories in them) and chucked away a lot of the leek because they had dirt within the layers.  My teeth often break when there is dirt, etc still on something.  Or seeds still in raisins or sultanas, etc.  Mum said I was wasting them.  I just thought it was a joke because we have stuff in our garden that nobody picks and then it goes rotten.  Surely that is an even bigger waste.  She also uses my bad appointment to justify her ****** mood and behavior (like it is all my fault).

There's some of my venting.  I'm sure there's more but I should stop now.

Enjoy respite.  I think I probably need to start doing some walking too.  I've been very slack lately.  
How are you finding the dbt stuff?  It must be confusing starting on that particular module.
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Sorry it didn't go well with your GP but i can see your bound to be frustrated and angry at the way you have been treated, it took courage to stay there though good for you.
I am here anytime feel free to vent anytime, its good to get it out.
Your mum shouldn't blame you for her bad mood its not your fault. My partner does that too or he will find fault in anything i do, like today i am exhausted i came home and done the washing tidied up and made dinner and he complained when i went to use the computer.
I went for lunch with my social worker today it was good i was very anxious though i'm not good at socialising even though it was just with her.
My therapist cancelled our appointment today he's not at work his office rang to let me know this morning they said he will call me with another appointment.
My mood isn't to bad being in respite helps a bit or maybe its just a good day. My social worker is collecting me in the morning to take me home, i think she calls everyday to make sure i stay there, she knows i panic and want to go home. Also there is a man there who is freaking me out a bit, he lives there all the time and he follows me about now he is scaring me a bit so i stayed in my room last night for a few hours
instead of downstairs. I didn't sleep so well either.
I went for a walk yesterday but it was too hot to go far i went down by the river it was beautiful so peaceful. There is also a woman there who has bpd i met her before when i was in the hospital, she is in and out of the hospital all the time, now she's in this place as an alternative to hospital.
Yeah the dbt stuff is confusing i don't know where to start i'm confused by all the e-mails i need to take time and read it, how is it going for you?
Are you going back to your GP next week?
I am so tired today i am going back soon.
I hope you have a good day. Take care
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I have had a nurse and SW take me for a drink.  I found it very anxiety provoking.
That would have been disappointing.  I hate canceled appointments.  Especially last minute one.  At least you have had some support while being in respite.
You've come a long way in the past few months.  It wouldn't have been too long ago that you would be kicking and screaming and not wanting to go to respite (metaphorically speaking of course).  To go and to benefit from it, even a little, is a big deal.

I think they all have a meeting in the morning and that information will be relayed to those on your treatment team.

You should talk to the staff about feeling uncomfortable around that person.

OK, I guess.  I would advise probably deleting all of them except the ones from russ and cyndi -they are the lesson or homework ones.
I'm happy to go through this weeks lesson with you if you think that would help.  It was mainly about cheerleading statements this week.  That is like finding something positive to say about something.  There were some statements and we just needed to write the positive to it.  I posted my homework if you wanted to read what I wrote.  I put my name in the subject line.

Probably.  My GP moves into a new surgery next week.  I am probably a little bit curious.  I'll work this out with my GP.

I hope you have a good day too and also manage to get some rest.
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Yeah i feel like i have made progress in some area's but not in others, i had an ok time there but i am tired because i don't sleep well, i am beginning to like the feeling of safety there, although i don't talk much to the staff i know they are there. Yeah they have a meeting in the morning when the day staff come in and then another one when the staff changes at night again.
I still feel ok although i am afraid to say it incase i feel bad again. I haven't heard from my therapist i don't know if he is back at work or not, my social worker said she will let me know and find out when he has another appointment for me.
I was glad my social worker was there as a support i think it helped, i didn't feel so  lonely, i always feel lonely even with the support.
She does annoy me at times though because she is so positive and my life is not positive all the time, i guess i feel i have to get more used to her as i will still have her when i change therapists.
I hate cancelled appointments too and then having to wait on him to call with another one but hopefully my social worker will sort it out.
I hope it goes well with you GP its good to have someone there who will listen.
I am so tired i need to go and lie down, i hope you have a good day.
Take care
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Having someone who is optimistic and bubbly may be hard now but it can't be all bad.  Imagine seeing someone who didn't inspire change or hope.

It's freezing here today.  It is snowing on the mountains.  I was suppose to clean my brothers car for when he comes home on Saturday but it is cold and wet.

I hope you get some rest and start to feel a little more ?energetic soon.
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I know maybe it is better she is that way.
I called her today those familiar feelings are surfacing again so i rang my social worker, i should have called my therapist but i am feeling upset at leaving him so i am keeping my distance from him.
I then took a really bad migrane as well.
Still feeling not good those boxes of medication are starting to look appealing i think if i was angry enough and made my mind up i could take them all really quickly, i will see how the day goes.
Take care
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I doubt anyone could take meds, in quantity, quickly.  That is not a dare or challenge by the way.
If you refuse to take meds at all then you shouldn't be receptive to taking them now.  Throw them away.
The migraine is probably due to all the stress.  Try to relax.

The best way through feelings is to confront them.  You should tell your T how you feel.  He never gave you the results from your 175 question form either, did he?

Went up to the airport today to see my brother and his girlfriend and to drop off his car.  They will be home next week for a week.

Feeling tired and a little stressed and have a headache (?dehydration).
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I got his appointment this morning and along with it an appointment to see the psychiatrist i don't know if he was responsible for getting me the appointment. No, he never gave me the results yet i find that annoying him but then i haven't seen him since so hopefully he will this week, maybe thats why he is sending me to the psychiatrist, too much to think about.
Anyway i realised something is seriously wrong with me, mentally, we went for a drive really late last nigh out to the lakes i like things like that anyway when i got out of the car i panicked i could see people everywhere in the trees and just standing about i haven't felt fear like that in a long time i couldn't sleep last night thinking about it. My partner says its just my imagination i hope so i thought i was going mad.
I did a stupid thing the other day something i have never done before, i can't write it down here but it has made me realise that something is wrong i think i was in denial before, i told my social worker and she was angry with me but she said i'm an adult its my choice but i guess by her tone of voice she wasn't impressed, eventually she will give up too. Anyway i got a buzz from it i'm not such a coward after all.
In a strange mood today i don't feel so good after last night and i was sick all day yesterday because of what i done the other day.
I thought it very formal my therapist posting out an appointment he usually calls but he was of for three days so i guess he couldn't call everyone i need to stop taking it so personally.
The migrane was awful i had to take painkillers which was not a good thing too  tempting.
How are you feeling today any better?
I hope you have a good day, take care
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