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Should i try Suboxone or go Cold Turkey?
Hello, I've been reading about various ways of eliminating Percocet from my life. I'll give you a little history on how
I got to this point. I've had pain for many year, 20 yrs to be exact and the MD's don't know why. Some say fibromyalgia and arthritis, but it does not matter at this point. Four or five years ago it got really bad and my DR put me on Tramadol since it did not make me drossy, so I could still go to work. At some point i discovered it was bad stuff and weaned myself off by cutting back for about six months. The week i was finally free,I was in a car accident and broke my L1, that was Nov 22, 2009. Got back on tramadol because i did not want percocets. I tought it was worse than tramadol, wrong. Tried many times to wean off without success. Then I found out how evil tramadol was and told my DR. he admitted that he also was deceived by the drug companies about the safe use of Tramadol . I'm on my third month of Percocets, 3 to 4 a day. I refuse to get another script, can't live like this. A friend recommended Suboxone but I'm reading lots of bad stuff about it too. I would rather go cold turkey but need advise. Have the Thomas Plan and read alot about Immodium, but I'm extremely afraid of the withdrawal. I went to bed a few times without my pill and woke up shaking , sweating, heart racing, runny nose and all the other crap.
My plan is to take a few days off and try cold turkey, my Dr already gave me the Ativan and the clonidine and is willing to support me. Any advice will be greatly appreciated on how long this can take and what to expect. Its now July and I plan on trying this in two weeks.
Thanks All
I got to this point. I've had pain for many year, 20 yrs to be exact and the MD's don't know why. Some say fibromyalgia and arthritis, but it does not matter at this point. Four or five years ago it got really bad and my DR put me on Tramadol since it did not make me drossy, so I could still go to work. At some point i discovered it was bad stuff and weaned myself off by cutting back for about six months. The week i was finally free,I was in a car accident and broke my L1, that was Nov 22, 2009. Got back on tramadol because i did not want percocets. I tought it was worse than tramadol, wrong. Tried many times to wean off without success. Then I found out how evil tramadol was and told my DR. he admitted that he also was deceived by the drug companies about the safe use of Tramadol . I'm on my third month of Percocets, 3 to 4 a day. I refuse to get another script, can't live like this. A friend recommended Suboxone but I'm reading lots of bad stuff about it too. I would rather go cold turkey but need advise. Have the Thomas Plan and read alot about Immodium, but I'm extremely afraid of the withdrawal. I went to bed a few times without my pill and woke up shaking , sweating, heart racing, runny nose and all the other crap.
My plan is to take a few days off and try cold turkey, my Dr already gave me the Ativan and the clonidine and is willing to support me. Any advice will be greatly appreciated on how long this can take and what to expect. Its now July and I plan on trying this in two weeks.
Thanks All
Hi Julia, It's day fourteen and I'm ok. Have had a headache for a full week but its starting to ease up. This week was worse that the first week but I can't quit now. My pain is slowly returning but I'm managing on Tylenol and Advil.
How can I function with a pinched nerve due to a compression fx and arthritis on no drugs. Any suggestions? I started acupuncture and hope it provides some relief.
Despite all the aches and pains im happy to be free.
How can I function with a pinched nerve due to a compression fx and arthritis on no drugs. Any suggestions? I started acupuncture and hope it provides some relief.
Despite all the aches and pains im happy to be free.
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Summer colds can be nasty. Feel better soon. Rest and keep hydrated.
Dr. Julia
Dr. Julia
Day six and doing ok. Feel like i have beginnings of a cold. Alternating between tylenol and advil for the next two days. Hope this is it , haven't thought about taking any perks.
Well its day five and i feel fine, felt strange yesterday, not sure what that was, plus a bad taste in my mouth.
Sleeping like a baby but still ache in the morning, so im taking Advil. I'm also on a ton of herbs and 1mg of Clonidine. I did try the Imodium on the first day and i believe it works but I got bloated and had to drink Mag Citrate for the constipation. I was expecting the runs when i stopped taking it but nothing yet.
For me the pills was not for getting high it relieved my physical pain and now that I'm not taking it the pain is still there but not as intense. So I'm guessing that at some point it became a physical addition and when i tried to stop taking the pill my body rebelled. I don't feel any kind of craving or need for it , the pill. For me if i did not take it on time i felt extreme pain and discomfort.
Is it because i was on such a low dose? I read that it takes about five days for Percocet to be totally out of the body, is that true.
I feel like I,m free from a heavy burden.
Sleeping like a baby but still ache in the morning, so im taking Advil. I'm also on a ton of herbs and 1mg of Clonidine. I did try the Imodium on the first day and i believe it works but I got bloated and had to drink Mag Citrate for the constipation. I was expecting the runs when i stopped taking it but nothing yet.
For me the pills was not for getting high it relieved my physical pain and now that I'm not taking it the pain is still there but not as intense. So I'm guessing that at some point it became a physical addition and when i tried to stop taking the pill my body rebelled. I don't feel any kind of craving or need for it , the pill. For me if i did not take it on time i felt extreme pain and discomfort.
Is it because i was on such a low dose? I read that it takes about five days for Percocet to be totally out of the body, is that true.
I feel like I,m free from a heavy burden.
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Don't give up. It is not going to be easy. But keep on with it and you will overcome your addiction. Read my suggestions over again if you get into trouble. I am here for you.
Ok it almost three oclock pm and I've not taken anything. Feeling alittle shaky but clear headed. I hope the other shoe does not drop because its been about thirty six hours.
Made it threw the night,got up one time and took Aleve as a precaution
Did not take any pill this morning. Feel my usual ache self so I sat in hot tub for twenty minutes. Plan is to not take another pill ever. This is my first twenty four hour free of drugs.
Wish me luck.
Did not take any pill this morning. Feel my usual ache self so I sat in hot tub for twenty minutes. Plan is to not take another pill ever. This is my first twenty four hour free of drugs.
Wish me luck.
Have had a percocet since yesterday morning at 7:30 . not sure if i should
take one tomorrow., I'm i moving to fast ?
take one tomorrow., I'm i moving to fast ?
Its 1242 am just got up after three hour of sleep. Feeling good Blood Pressure and Heart rate stable. don't feet like i need a pill but I took an Ativan and three Aleve. Also took some Promethazine with codeine to help me sleep. Hope that enough to get me threw night. slight headache and body feels strange. God i hope this works. Well im going back to bed, work tomorrow.
Thanks for the advice, today i manage to get by on three pill but its not the first time I've done that. I've never take more than four in one day so I'm hopeful that I can beat this pill. I don't want to substitute one problem for another, so i'll keep trying the taper. What i don't understand is how it happen so fast. I was able to stop the Tramadol the first time but not this time. The withdrawal was much worst than the Percocet. I have to stay on top of this because I've seen what drugs do to people first hand on my job.
I became suspicious of Tramadol about four years ago and the Dr. said it was ok. I trusted him because he's been taking care of me for 22 years. As soon as i realized i needed help i went to him and presented my plan based on my research online and books i purchased. He was eager to help and gave me the meds i needed I've only been on percocet for two and a half months so I'm going to try this at home first.
I will let you know how i make out.
Thanks again.
I became suspicious of Tramadol about four years ago and the Dr. said it was ok. I trusted him because he's been taking care of me for 22 years. As soon as i realized i needed help i went to him and presented my plan based on my research online and books i purchased. He was eager to help and gave me the meds i needed I've only been on percocet for two and a half months so I'm going to try this at home first.
I will let you know how i make out.
Thanks again.
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
It sounds like you have read every blog I have written, the Tramadol, the Suboxone, you are so on top of things, it is unreal... I am very impressed. But even you fell into the trap of the "magic potion", like I sometimes fall into a trap of the magic potion of a "diet" craze.
However, as a physician, I can tell you that there are no magic potions out there for withdrawals, just like there are no magic weight loss pill. Unfortunate as it may sound, one way or another you will go though the process of withdrawal.
There is really no easy way of detoxing from home. I have dealt with hundreds of addicts who have all told me horror stories of doing it by themselves. I would only guess that if are successful in doing it at home you don't end up in my clinic.
Just in case you are curious, it takes us three to four days to detox a patient and get him/her back home drug free and feeling well on Naltrexone therapy (no opiates).
At home, the basic technique is to space out the pills you take on a consistent manner until you take only one at night, then half at night, than every other night and then none. See if your doctor can write you a prescription for some Requip for restlessness, Neurontin for anxiety and malaise, some Flexeril or Soma for a few weeks for muscle spasms and maybe some Seroquel low dose, for sleep. It will make your withdrawals easier. Valerian and Magnesium is sometimes helpful remedies over the counter.
The residual symptoms of insomnia and depression can last another few months. Thus, it is not easy, but it gets better and better over time and you can look forward to a drug free healthy energetic you in the future.
Take a look at my blogs about options for detox and recovery. You may also take a look at my clinic website where I also have my blogs and a lot of other info about drug addiction and recovery. Look especially into the blog and the info on Naltrexone therapy after getting clean. It really improves your chances of staying clean for good by cutting down your physical cravings. Look into my clinic website as well. All this can be done by clicking on my name in blue.
There is a injectable form available now that is covered by all major medical insurances called Vivitrol that you would need to get only once monthly to stay clean. Just keep it in mind for the future. Good luck to you.
However, as a physician, I can tell you that there are no magic potions out there for withdrawals, just like there are no magic weight loss pill. Unfortunate as it may sound, one way or another you will go though the process of withdrawal.
There is really no easy way of detoxing from home. I have dealt with hundreds of addicts who have all told me horror stories of doing it by themselves. I would only guess that if are successful in doing it at home you don't end up in my clinic.
Just in case you are curious, it takes us three to four days to detox a patient and get him/her back home drug free and feeling well on Naltrexone therapy (no opiates).
At home, the basic technique is to space out the pills you take on a consistent manner until you take only one at night, then half at night, than every other night and then none. See if your doctor can write you a prescription for some Requip for restlessness, Neurontin for anxiety and malaise, some Flexeril or Soma for a few weeks for muscle spasms and maybe some Seroquel low dose, for sleep. It will make your withdrawals easier. Valerian and Magnesium is sometimes helpful remedies over the counter.
The residual symptoms of insomnia and depression can last another few months. Thus, it is not easy, but it gets better and better over time and you can look forward to a drug free healthy energetic you in the future.
Take a look at my blogs about options for detox and recovery. You may also take a look at my clinic website where I also have my blogs and a lot of other info about drug addiction and recovery. Look especially into the blog and the info on Naltrexone therapy after getting clean. It really improves your chances of staying clean for good by cutting down your physical cravings. Look into my clinic website as well. All this can be done by clicking on my name in blue.
There is a injectable form available now that is covered by all major medical insurances called Vivitrol that you would need to get only once monthly to stay clean. Just keep it in mind for the future. Good luck to you.
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