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Any Egyptians here?
I am an Egyptian with Bipolar Disorder ..... currently going through a severe mixed affective episodes.
If there are any Egyptians - or expats in Egypt - here willing to communicate, talk about our problems discreetly, or even meet and form our very own support group, drop me a line.
If there are any Egyptians - or expats in Egypt - here willing to communicate, talk about our problems discreetly, or even meet and form our very own support group, drop me a line.
guys im bipolar too my case is not severe but strange can anyone recommend a professional doctor please !? nad im from cairo btw
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I am extremely bipolar 1. I have been on 400 mg seroquel 1200 mg triliptal (sp) now I'm on geodon 40 mg twice a day. Plus .05 ativan. You would think I would be knocked out all day, when I'm hyper manic I can't slow down. I have to have seroquel to slow me down. Sleep is very important, but not too much. That is the crash comes lasts 3-7days of pure hell. You can only try to pick your head up and pretend. Some days staying in bed. I was a highly functional, but the behaviors were still there spending. Hyoersexuality, mean selfish and on and on. Bipolar owns me I don't own it. Anxiety = you care too much Depression = you do not care at all. FYI I was at 800 mg of seroquel for over a year.
hello Guys,
I am suspecting that my father has bipolar disorder while his doctor diagnosed him as a depression patient, so that thanks to recommend a good doctor in Cairo
I am suspecting that my father has bipolar disorder while his doctor diagnosed him as a depression patient, so that thanks to recommend a good doctor in Cairo
well, i am interested in the idea of having agroup meeting under the supervision of a doctor to express our thoughts outloud. please let me know if this could be achievd and how?
Hello everybody!
well, interesting!!
I read most of the comments here..definitely I'm looking for a support group,,I'm not sure about the definition/description of my case/problem, but for sure I know that there is something wrong with me, but I don't know what it is..I tried to ignore it and pretend that I'm normal person, (well, this technique helps sometimes but I consume a lot of energy while trying, then I find myself with low or no power at all, so I feel so weak and getting worse). However, I don't believe in medication for such mental problems, that's why I am looking for a support group to meet with people who also have mental problems so that we could share our thoughts, feelings and issues with a kind of ease (you cannot share such thoughts with your colleagues or even your close friend cause this might be bothering through time). I was thinking about going to a psychiatrist, but they are going to put me on medication and give me some pills which is likely to make me worse. I mean if you go to a pdoc you will get worse, and if you go to an Egyptian pdoc you will find yourself in the hell.
meeting with people like you might be helpful.
well, interesting!!
I read most of the comments here..definitely I'm looking for a support group,,I'm not sure about the definition/description of my case/problem, but for sure I know that there is something wrong with me, but I don't know what it is..I tried to ignore it and pretend that I'm normal person, (well, this technique helps sometimes but I consume a lot of energy while trying, then I find myself with low or no power at all, so I feel so weak and getting worse). However, I don't believe in medication for such mental problems, that's why I am looking for a support group to meet with people who also have mental problems so that we could share our thoughts, feelings and issues with a kind of ease (you cannot share such thoughts with your colleagues or even your close friend cause this might be bothering through time). I was thinking about going to a psychiatrist, but they are going to put me on medication and give me some pills which is likely to make me worse. I mean if you go to a pdoc you will get worse, and if you go to an Egyptian pdoc you will find yourself in the hell.
meeting with people like you might be helpful.
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I watched 20 min and it seems a nice movie, comedy drama
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Enjoy...
It would help very much , I believe that we only have each other , we all need a safe place to express our feelings and find compassion and support from people who can understand us ( Most of us can't express their feelings even to our family and close friends ), we want to share our experience and learn from each other how to cope with our struggles , I understand that many are afraid of joining a support group because of the stigma about mental illness
I talked to my doctor and he is willing to organize such a group . I think it will be more safe than meeting in a public place and we can benefit from the doctor's experience
any one who interested please send me a message
I talked to my doctor and he is willing to organize such a group . I think it will be more safe than meeting in a public place and we can benefit from the doctor's experience
any one who interested please send me a message
i have been looking for such groups in egypt all over the past month but invain, all groups are foreigners. i even made an account on facebook to be able to search the whole facebook pages about such groups but also was of no use. only the official pages of psychologists and psychatrists whre they announce their courses and opinions. but I FIND NO ACTIVE GROUP HERE IN EGYPT.
would be grateful and appreciating if we could make a private group.
would be grateful and appreciating if we could make a private group.
Well, I think that reviving this thread is very important, as there are no (as far as I know) support groups in Egypt for BP, although I think that we should have one
Now I read your both letters in detail: I shall comment using my modest view and my ten years of experience in this nasty illness:
you said:because my parents thought I was depressed
You don't go to a doctor because you think you are depressed, depression is debilitating and you can't help it except going to an expertese
you said: I went to Suez to have seafood without my parents
no harm done in that everybody can take funny decisions, I did the same
you said:As for the anti-depressant my mum did not approve to it AT ALL
again it's not a matter of your mum didn't approve of it, when you need it you will damn need it
you said: I had some delusions like hearing things and I have these TONS of teddy bears and I was (guess still am) convinced difference from what's real and what's a dream
these are more likely hallucinations a psychotic phenomena, delusions like you think you are dead.
you said:I abused seroquel
seroquel should be adjusted and fixed it's not aspirin.
Ok I think you have bipolar 1 and not schiz.. your pdoc is in favor ot the latter because of the psychosis, but considering the personality and behaviors, sudden decisions , etc...you may be BP1 and it comes with psychosis as well when not well treated. you may not a mood stabilizer an intervention that renders you well balanced, if you don't like seroquel there are other antipsychotics like zyprexa but all of them make you gain weight even more than seroquel. some of them they say they don't like abilify or geodon I don't know neither used any of them, but this is a compromise or better sacrifice you have to take an illness is an illness you have to face.
finally there is an illness called schizo-affective disorder, i am not knowlegeable in it, you can either surf the internet about it or PM Mr ILADVOCATE he is an active member in this forum and help everybody including myself
good luck and post anytime
you said:because my parents thought I was depressed
You don't go to a doctor because you think you are depressed, depression is debilitating and you can't help it except going to an expertese
you said: I went to Suez to have seafood without my parents
no harm done in that everybody can take funny decisions, I did the same
you said:As for the anti-depressant my mum did not approve to it AT ALL
again it's not a matter of your mum didn't approve of it, when you need it you will damn need it
you said: I had some delusions like hearing things and I have these TONS of teddy bears and I was (guess still am) convinced difference from what's real and what's a dream
these are more likely hallucinations a psychotic phenomena, delusions like you think you are dead.
you said:I abused seroquel
seroquel should be adjusted and fixed it's not aspirin.
Ok I think you have bipolar 1 and not schiz.. your pdoc is in favor ot the latter because of the psychosis, but considering the personality and behaviors, sudden decisions , etc...you may be BP1 and it comes with psychosis as well when not well treated. you may not a mood stabilizer an intervention that renders you well balanced, if you don't like seroquel there are other antipsychotics like zyprexa but all of them make you gain weight even more than seroquel. some of them they say they don't like abilify or geodon I don't know neither used any of them, but this is a compromise or better sacrifice you have to take an illness is an illness you have to face.
finally there is an illness called schizo-affective disorder, i am not knowlegeable in it, you can either surf the internet about it or PM Mr ILADVOCATE he is an active member in this forum and help everybody including myself
good luck and post anytime
Oh, and another thing, I abused seroquel, like whenever I felt that something was wrong, I took it.
I forgot to mention that sometimes I just can't tell the difference from what's real and what's a dream, and most of my dreams start with something irrelevant to the dream, however it's something I do in reality, as if it's like a trick to convince me that it's not a dream. Something like taking off my earrings before going to bed because they hurt me when I'm asleep, then the dream or the nightmare to be precise begins with something that has nothing to do with that.
Actually I went to see a a doctor because my parents thought I was depressed (and of course they ran out of methods to make me okay) and I started having these HORRIBLE nightmares that messed with my mind, then I become insomniac blablabla. I had some delusions like hearing things and I have these TONS of teddy bears and I was (guess still am) convinced that they are real, like they feel and they know what's going on around them, so my room was like the scariest thing on earth.
As for the mania, let's just say that I did things that I'm not very proud of and I'd rather forget, but the thing is I'm not really sure what to consider mania, sometimes I feel like I couldn't care less about anything and just do whatever the hell is on my mind, does that count? Like this one time 2 years ago, I had the urge to eat seafood so I went to Suez to have seafood without my parents knowing and I'm living in Cairo.
Seroquel drove me crazy because it felt as if you throw a basketball so hard on the floor, now the ball is supposed to jump back up so hard as well, only you put your hand above the ball to prevent it from jumping. It was as if something was controlling my mind, whenever I fell happy, sad, shocked, surprised...etc. as if someone is holding my brain with their hands and telling me to calm down. Plus it made me so freaking fat!
As for the anti-depressant my mum did not approve to it AT ALL.
Right now, sometimes I just switch my cell phone off and stay in my room, and sometimes I just feel like throwing a party, and I hate the feeling that I can't control what I'm doing or how I'm thinking.
and about the current events in Egypt, they do make me anxious especially that it's my field of study.
Talking about studying, I'm afraid that these symptoms will affect my study, because it did back then. So I just wanna know is there a way out of this? Can I have it under control?
As for the mania, let's just say that I did things that I'm not very proud of and I'd rather forget, but the thing is I'm not really sure what to consider mania, sometimes I feel like I couldn't care less about anything and just do whatever the hell is on my mind, does that count? Like this one time 2 years ago, I had the urge to eat seafood so I went to Suez to have seafood without my parents knowing and I'm living in Cairo.
Seroquel drove me crazy because it felt as if you throw a basketball so hard on the floor, now the ball is supposed to jump back up so hard as well, only you put your hand above the ball to prevent it from jumping. It was as if something was controlling my mind, whenever I fell happy, sad, shocked, surprised...etc. as if someone is holding my brain with their hands and telling me to calm down. Plus it made me so freaking fat!
As for the anti-depressant my mum did not approve to it AT ALL.
Right now, sometimes I just switch my cell phone off and stay in my room, and sometimes I just feel like throwing a party, and I hate the feeling that I can't control what I'm doing or how I'm thinking.
and about the current events in Egypt, they do make me anxious especially that it's my field of study.
Talking about studying, I'm afraid that these symptoms will affect my study, because it did back then. So I just wanna know is there a way out of this? Can I have it under control?
Psychiatry is not a straight forward discipline, and symptoms can trick the best of pdocs, if good pdocs do exist from start. for schizophrenia you are bound to take antipsychotics and I don't understand why seroquel drove you crazy. The reason why pdocs differ in diagnosis is perhaps you had psychosis (i.e. delusions or hallucinations or paranoia) but BP also can lead to that when in mania.
Don't get scared we all passed through this at the beginning, for the start of any of these illnesses is hard, then it smoothes away as you will get accustomed and know how to adjust to your symptoms.
I once posted here affirming that if there is no depression then there is no BP, WHY?? because not only that BP ensures that you must have the two poles and you must oscillate in between, but also that you will not need antidepressants which are the real enemy of BP. So if you can hold on and don't get scared from going into insanity, then you will get better with time. The stable people sometimes lose their mind, again so long that you are scared to become crazy it means you will not be crazy, because insane people don't know for sure that they are insane.
Only some advice:
1. try to avoid antidepressants as much as you can
2. better not to take depakine (anticonvulsant) in case a pdoc writes it for
you because it leads to ovarian cyst and sure one day you might think
of having children.
again there are signs for schizoph...you have some restlesness and need to walk. But this is associated with many psych illness. There is something in medicine called comorbidity where you get signs of ADHD, anxiety,etc.. along with the main illness, this is why pdocs are perplexed at times not being able to diagnose besides their drugs are of a few types (i mean categories not brands) and they use them with trial and error.
however if you are really suffering as the symptoms returned again then you may need something stronger than seroquel i.e. some mood stabilizer like lithium or lamictal, but this needs a capable pdoc. My advise take many opinions before embarking on this road, but CBT and the like is not very efficient.
Start by taking doses of vitamin B and see how you react. stay away from social problems. don't think too much about yourself. Stay with friends. Perhaps the current tumultuous events in egypt brought you anxiety.
Post here it will help you get a relief from your symptoms and try to surf the web or read books about mood disorders. It's not too serious like you think. Just because you are very young that you feel you are lost
keep well
Don't get scared we all passed through this at the beginning, for the start of any of these illnesses is hard, then it smoothes away as you will get accustomed and know how to adjust to your symptoms.
I once posted here affirming that if there is no depression then there is no BP, WHY?? because not only that BP ensures that you must have the two poles and you must oscillate in between, but also that you will not need antidepressants which are the real enemy of BP. So if you can hold on and don't get scared from going into insanity, then you will get better with time. The stable people sometimes lose their mind, again so long that you are scared to become crazy it means you will not be crazy, because insane people don't know for sure that they are insane.
Only some advice:
1. try to avoid antidepressants as much as you can
2. better not to take depakine (anticonvulsant) in case a pdoc writes it for
you because it leads to ovarian cyst and sure one day you might think
of having children.
again there are signs for schizoph...you have some restlesness and need to walk. But this is associated with many psych illness. There is something in medicine called comorbidity where you get signs of ADHD, anxiety,etc.. along with the main illness, this is why pdocs are perplexed at times not being able to diagnose besides their drugs are of a few types (i mean categories not brands) and they use them with trial and error.
however if you are really suffering as the symptoms returned again then you may need something stronger than seroquel i.e. some mood stabilizer like lithium or lamictal, but this needs a capable pdoc. My advise take many opinions before embarking on this road, but CBT and the like is not very efficient.
Start by taking doses of vitamin B and see how you react. stay away from social problems. don't think too much about yourself. Stay with friends. Perhaps the current tumultuous events in egypt brought you anxiety.
Post here it will help you get a relief from your symptoms and try to surf the web or read books about mood disorders. It's not too serious like you think. Just because you are very young that you feel you are lost
keep well
Hey I'm Deena. I'm 20 and I was diagnosed around 4 years ago or something. I think I've been living in denial ever since (not sure if I still do or not). I just started to take it into consideration because certain symptoms that made me go see a psychiatrist in the first place are back and worse. I used to take seroquel but it drove me crazy and things got worse so I stopped seeing the doctor. Now I'm confused as hell and scared and I really have no clue what I should do and I don't know what's wrong with me... It just feels as if I'm on the verge of insanity. I also have no clue why I'm posting this or how this is gonna change anything or help in anyway, but.... I really don't know. I guess I just wanna know what to do and I really don't want to psychiatric sessions or anything like that ever again!!
PS: I saw 3 docs, one of them diagnosed me with schizophrenia and the other 2 agreed on bipolar
PS: I saw 3 docs, one of them diagnosed me with schizophrenia and the other 2 agreed on bipolar
ok you rose many question marks. 1st how did you reckon it's dysphoric mania (mixed state). I read what's written in your site:
In dysphoric mania, the person is in a manic episode and experiences some depressive symptoms. In agitated depression, the person is in a depressive episode and experiences some mania symptoms
This is the standard definition which is vague, to put it more clrearly: it's all energy versus mood.
depression=low mood + low energy
mania=high mood + high energy
mixed state= low mood + high energy
4th state= high mood + low energy (rare , when your energy is depleted but
you are not so depressed)
usually the mixed state is the worse of them all when the person becomes very agressive and dangerous. usually a person passes through these phases very rarely by himself i.e. only by abusing meds especially antidepressants. HOWEVER if you don't pass through these phases witout being medicated, THEN you should consult a pdoc because you need him tremendously. On the contrary if you pass through them due to misuse or uncontrollable combo of drugs then this is only natural what you feel, you need to take a proper medication or a potent mood stabilizer. It means you mess with your drugs.
now there are many on the market. To cut it short I would advise seroquel for your case. It's an antimanic and good for depression, so it's the only FDA recommended mood stabilizer among the antipsychotics. There is depakine which the egyptian pdocs recommend, it's filthy, put weight, etc...
my modest view 50mg seroquel ONLY by night to start with, trhen will see about that
good luck
P.S.: I TOTALLY agree with your parents, don't do any business right now and finish what you are doing
In dysphoric mania, the person is in a manic episode and experiences some depressive symptoms. In agitated depression, the person is in a depressive episode and experiences some mania symptoms
This is the standard definition which is vague, to put it more clrearly: it's all energy versus mood.
depression=low mood + low energy
mania=high mood + high energy
mixed state= low mood + high energy
4th state= high mood + low energy (rare , when your energy is depleted but
you are not so depressed)
usually the mixed state is the worse of them all when the person becomes very agressive and dangerous. usually a person passes through these phases very rarely by himself i.e. only by abusing meds especially antidepressants. HOWEVER if you don't pass through these phases witout being medicated, THEN you should consult a pdoc because you need him tremendously. On the contrary if you pass through them due to misuse or uncontrollable combo of drugs then this is only natural what you feel, you need to take a proper medication or a potent mood stabilizer. It means you mess with your drugs.
now there are many on the market. To cut it short I would advise seroquel for your case. It's an antimanic and good for depression, so it's the only FDA recommended mood stabilizer among the antipsychotics. There is depakine which the egyptian pdocs recommend, it's filthy, put weight, etc...
my modest view 50mg seroquel ONLY by night to start with, trhen will see about that
good luck
P.S.: I TOTALLY agree with your parents, don't do any business right now and finish what you are doing
you thought It's depression because it's all I talked about
In this link is actually what's happening to me (dysphoric mania)
http://www.bipolardisordersymptoms.info/mixed-episode.htm
I talked about depression because when the grief hits me it hits so hard and out of nowhere after a cheerful euphoria and that drives me crazy enough to think about ending this misery forever
but as you said and as I hope :I may not be bipolar that why I need help to know what's going on with me first without going into the maze of medications
I have been working for more than 5 years now in the same field of my study but maybe once or twice a year I think about changing my career to another far-unrelated-career and sometimes taking steps towards it like resigning or withdrawing large amount of money to start the new business and my parents and family form the barrier and the buffer that stops me everytime
In this link is actually what's happening to me (dysphoric mania)
http://www.bipolardisordersymptoms.info/mixed-episode.htm
I talked about depression because when the grief hits me it hits so hard and out of nowhere after a cheerful euphoria and that drives me crazy enough to think about ending this misery forever
but as you said and as I hope :I may not be bipolar that why I need help to know what's going on with me first without going into the maze of medications
I have been working for more than 5 years now in the same field of my study but maybe once or twice a year I think about changing my career to another far-unrelated-career and sometimes taking steps towards it like resigning or withdrawing large amount of money to start the new business and my parents and family form the barrier and the buffer that stops me everytime
had it been so easy no one would have suffered from this severe illness. True, antidepressants make it worse. I have no clue for that. All I can say unless your illness is so debilitating don't visit a doctor. You have to ask yourself, do you go to work or pursue your studies despite your suicidal thoughts. If yes then you are safe and don't go to pdocs, I tried the latter it's a road with no return my problem was a mistake of my pdoc.
The dilemma is that not only the egyptian doctors are ignorent but even if you travel abroad to consult one, my point is that all of them are kind of quacks. The illness is so damn difficult and medicine in general is difficult but psychiatry especially is so intricate and the meds are only of 4 categories that pdocs fidel with with trial and errors of some combos you try and so on.
I doubt much whether you have bipolar disorder, it's a rare disease contrary to what statistics say. Not just some mood changes. Most doctors tell you you have it, because you there is a chance that you have it, that's all. psych illnesses are of 5 types only, so you run the possibility of having it.
Even if you have some depression go on with it. Try supplementary diets, If you haven't already taken any drugs, take injections of vitamin B (B1,B6,B12) like Tri B. Neurobion is good but strong. It can drive you manic. Betolvex is B12 not bad but the 1st is better. Make a complete CBC, check you thyroid, etc... make the pdoc your last choice
you can pm me any time, hope to help, if you choose to write I need some extra info whether you take any med, etc...are you a student etc..did you any mania before etc...
good luck.
The dilemma is that not only the egyptian doctors are ignorent but even if you travel abroad to consult one, my point is that all of them are kind of quacks. The illness is so damn difficult and medicine in general is difficult but psychiatry especially is so intricate and the meds are only of 4 categories that pdocs fidel with with trial and errors of some combos you try and so on.
I doubt much whether you have bipolar disorder, it's a rare disease contrary to what statistics say. Not just some mood changes. Most doctors tell you you have it, because you there is a chance that you have it, that's all. psych illnesses are of 5 types only, so you run the possibility of having it.
Even if you have some depression go on with it. Try supplementary diets, If you haven't already taken any drugs, take injections of vitamin B (B1,B6,B12) like Tri B. Neurobion is good but strong. It can drive you manic. Betolvex is B12 not bad but the 1st is better. Make a complete CBC, check you thyroid, etc... make the pdoc your last choice
you can pm me any time, hope to help, if you choose to write I need some extra info whether you take any med, etc...are you a student etc..did you any mania before etc...
good luck.
I saw your reply to someone suspects being bipolar and you said either they have it or not.The thing it's really a cry for hearing 'may be you are not bipolar , only doctors can diagnose you with that.Don't diagnose yourself' instead of admitting that she's having all the symptoms.
am pretty sure I am bipolar I just want some professional medical and psychiatry help from professionals (is that too much to ask) and your experience and comments made me lose hope of that happening :(
just like you I don't trust Egyptian doctors and I've seen people having anti-depress medication and what it does to them so am extremely terrified to go to an Egyptian psychiatry and all he does giving me anti-depressants.
so can anyone tell me what is the solution to this dilemma cause seriously I feel that someday I'll commit one of my suicidal thoughts that I have :(
am pretty sure I am bipolar I just want some professional medical and psychiatry help from professionals (is that too much to ask) and your experience and comments made me lose hope of that happening :(
just like you I don't trust Egyptian doctors and I've seen people having anti-depress medication and what it does to them so am extremely terrified to go to an Egyptian psychiatry and all he does giving me anti-depressants.
so can anyone tell me what is the solution to this dilemma cause seriously I feel that someday I'll commit one of my suicidal thoughts that I have :(
Hi there, I was thinking of the same thing... i was diagnosed of BP yesterday! yep! im almost 30 and all the symptoms were there as long as I can remember but no one was ever able to pin point the issue including myself! :(
Anyway.. I do feel I need to speak to people who are going thru the same ordeal...
The mixed feelings im going thru right now is just so weird... im glad and relieved I have finally found out what the hell is wrong with me and that I am now on medications.. but also cant help feeling sad for myself!
I want to let people know so they can give me the excuse for my behavior.. so that they can realise that hey, im not a ***** or im not stupid.. its BP! I wanna let my parents, my siblings, friends, work know... but i'm also concerned.. no that is an understatement... i am extremely ashamed for being BP! I feel the response of people, especially my family, will be like "ah ya, so you are a psycho, we knew that!" :(((
Anyway.. I do feel I need to speak to people who are going thru the same ordeal...
The mixed feelings im going thru right now is just so weird... im glad and relieved I have finally found out what the hell is wrong with me and that I am now on medications.. but also cant help feeling sad for myself!
I want to let people know so they can give me the excuse for my behavior.. so that they can realise that hey, im not a ***** or im not stupid.. its BP! I wanna let my parents, my siblings, friends, work know... but i'm also concerned.. no that is an understatement... i am extremely ashamed for being BP! I feel the response of people, especially my family, will be like "ah ya, so you are a psycho, we knew that!" :(((
everything needs time God created the universe in 7 days. seroquel will make him good. just be patient. he will be stable after a while.
the advantage of seroquel is not only in manic episode being a moderately strong antimanic but also in depression. therefore it's considered a mood stabilizer.
is seroquel the only drug he takes or he kept the ones of the past doc simultaneously. a rule of thumb for BP pts that antidepressants bring harm more than good. I once posted here a while ago under the title if no depression no BP. Why ? because no depression so no need to antidepressants, if no antidepressants then no mania i.e. recovery. So try to minimize the AD's. I remember if he needs them there is stablon an SSRE which different than the SSRI the 1st enemy to BP.
As to whether EG doctors are ignorant or untrustworthy you will be amazed to know that most pdocs worldwide are the same. BELIEVE ME this science is new and nobody knows how the brain functions.
I will be curious to know if your brother got manic due to AD the 1st time or that without it.he gets manic. Usually it's seldom that people are manic by themselves, of course they exist but rarely. it's the fault of their doctors. BP is usually difficult to diagnose this is classical knowledge e.g. see wikipedia so the person gets manic i.e. becomes a BP pt after a trial and error many times of drugs i.e. by drug abuse.
You are welcome to post here any time or to PM me and everybody in this forum tries to help. Let him subscribe here too. Part of recovery is to socialize. Try to raise a pet it helps a lot. To be busy all the time divert his thoughts from depression
take care and everything will turn out right. it just takes TIME
the advantage of seroquel is not only in manic episode being a moderately strong antimanic but also in depression. therefore it's considered a mood stabilizer.
is seroquel the only drug he takes or he kept the ones of the past doc simultaneously. a rule of thumb for BP pts that antidepressants bring harm more than good. I once posted here a while ago under the title if no depression no BP. Why ? because no depression so no need to antidepressants, if no antidepressants then no mania i.e. recovery. So try to minimize the AD's. I remember if he needs them there is stablon an SSRE which different than the SSRI the 1st enemy to BP.
As to whether EG doctors are ignorant or untrustworthy you will be amazed to know that most pdocs worldwide are the same. BELIEVE ME this science is new and nobody knows how the brain functions.
I will be curious to know if your brother got manic due to AD the 1st time or that without it.he gets manic. Usually it's seldom that people are manic by themselves, of course they exist but rarely. it's the fault of their doctors. BP is usually difficult to diagnose this is classical knowledge e.g. see wikipedia so the person gets manic i.e. becomes a BP pt after a trial and error many times of drugs i.e. by drug abuse.
You are welcome to post here any time or to PM me and everybody in this forum tries to help. Let him subscribe here too. Part of recovery is to socialize. Try to raise a pet it helps a lot. To be busy all the time divert his thoughts from depression
take care and everything will turn out right. it just takes TIME
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