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FRIDAY'S FRIBBLE

Fribble-    noun

a person who wastes time
any trifling act or thought
intransitive verb fribbled frib′·bled, fribbling frib′·bling

to waste time; trifle
I guess that explains it......let's keep chiari and all medical stuff out of this one!!
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620923 tn?1452915648
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Hi Sue...very cold here...winter storm expected tonight!! ice for Fri AM!!
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679866 tn?1240005366
Just warming up in Australia. A beautiful day today. :)
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620923 tn?1452915648
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Hoilday Weather......as of now the south is getting snow, the north east is getting rain.....who knows they will have a White Christmas??
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679866 tn?1240005366
Halloween is just starting to take off in Australia. It wasnt done when my older children were young but it is becomming increasingly popular these days so thanks for the info.
Our school holidays go for longer at xmas. School breaks up around the 17th Dec and doesnt go back until about the first week of Feb.
Yes fairies and elves are little. Geez Shane I thought the same - that elves were a little bigger than fairies but not in the 3 - 5 ft range - thats scarey!!!! A 5 ft elf?
Other than that we are on pretty much of a par then with the celebrations. Thats nice to know.
Wish you all a happy and safe Christmas and New Year and hopefully at least a few pain free days in amongst it all.
x Sue
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620923 tn?1452915648
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Candy in the shoes for the Feast of St. Nicholas is not regional, but goes with faith...we r catholic and it was done at school.....and at the Halloween season, we did All Saints day and the kids could dress as their fav Saint!
the following is a copy and paste from the internet for those that would like more info on St Nicholas .

The Legend Strictly speaking, the tradition of St. Nicholas is not synonomous with the role of Santa Claus in the U.S.. As practiced in many European countries, the celebration of St. Nicholas is separate from the Christmas holidays, and occurs during the 2 weeks prior to December 6th, which is St. Nicholas's day. Sometimes St. Nicholas Day is the main holiday for gift giving, and not Christmas.

In the Netherlands, legend has it that Sinterklaas (Dutch name for St. Nicholas) arrives in the Netherlands by way of steamboat from Spain 2 weeks before his traditional birthday, December 6th, along with his helper, Zwarte Piet (Black Pete), who will help disperse the gifts and candy to all the good children. Sinterklaas, along with the zwarte piets, will go abroad at night and stride about the countryside wearing his red mantle, his mitre, and his golden crosier and sporting a long, white beard. Referring to his book that lists all the good and bad children, Sinterklaas will deliver presents to all the good children, but watch out if you've been bad! The bad children may be taken back to Spain with him. The Low Countries (Belgium and Luxemburg) have basically the same traditions surrounding St. Nicholas, but not to the extent of the Netherlands. Children in Luxemburg call him Kleeschen, and his helper is Hoseker (Black Peter). Belgian children know him as Sint Niklaas.


In Germany, St. Nicholas is also known as Klaasbuur, Sunnercla, Burklaas, Bullerklaas, and Rauklas, and in eastern Germany, he is also known as Shaggy Goat, Ash Man and Rider and is more reflective of earlier pagan influences (Norse) that were blended in with the figure of St. Nicholas, when Christianity came to Germany. After the reformation, St. Nicholas's attire began to change, maybe as a reflection of the change from the Roman church, and he started to wear a red suit with fur. His dark-skinned helper is most often known as Knecht Ruprecht. Although he still visits many homes on Dec 5th/6th and leaves candy and gifts in the children's shoes, more recently St. Nicholas has begun showing up on Christmas Eve in Germany and is called Father Christmas.

In France, he is now called Pere Noel (Father Christmas) and he travels in the company of Pere Fouettard. Pere Noel leaves presents for good children, while Pere Fouettard disciplines bad children with a spanking. Pere Noel only sometimes leaves presents on St. Nicholas day, more often now on Christmas. St. Nicholas day was celebrated formerly in Russia, but under Communism he was changed to Grandfather Frost and wore blue instead of red. In Sicily, he comes on Dec 13th and is called Santa Lucia.


The HistorySt. Nicholas was born in 271 AD and died around December 6, 342 or 343 AD near the Asia Minor (Turkey) town of Myra,. where he later became Bishop. He performed many good deeds and was a friend to the poor and helpless, and upon his death, myths soon sprang up about him all around the Mediterranean Sea. He was reputed to be able to calm the raging seas, rescue desperate sailors, help the poor and downtrodden, and save children. He was soon named as the patron saint of sailors, and when Myra was overthrown, his bones were transported by sailors to Bari, a port in Italy, where a tomb was built over the grave and became the center of honor for St. Nicholas. From here the legend spread on around to the Atlantic Coast of Europe and the North Sea to become a European holiday tradition regardless of religion.


The Holiday TodayIn anticipation of St. Nicholas's nightly visits, children in several European countries put their shoes in front of the fire place. They sing traditional songs and provide a carrot or hay for the horse. At night Black Pete puts gifts and candy in the shoes.

In the Netherlands, families celebrate St Nicholas's birthday the night before his feast day (December 6th). At one point during the evening, a loud knock will herald the arrival of Sinterklaas and at the same time candy may be thrown from upstairs; when the door is opened, a bag of gifts will be on the doorstep.

For families with older children and adults, different twists are added to the gift giving and may include gag gifts or the drawing of gift ideas or names, and most times are accompanied by poems with a "personal touch" that poke fun at the recipient in a gentle way (or not, depending on the families ;) ). Wrapping the presents up in odd packages and planting a trail of clues is also part of the general fun, and can sometimes be pretty tricky to get to, depending on the squeamishness of the recipients.

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555358 tn?1292532061
   Hunh, we don't do the candies in shoes in the south - guess that's a regional thing? Far as I know, Dec 6th is Dec 6th!

Our "Holiday Season" Is basically from;

   Hallowe'en - October 31st - which a lot of churches don't officially recognize because of it's Pagan roots (ignoring that most Christian Holidays also have Pagan roots)

   Thanksgiving - fourth Thursday of November - which is a celebration by the Pilgrams of the first successful harvest in the "New World", specifically to thank God and show good will and thanks to the Natives for their help in teaching the Pilgrams how to survive in the new lands. (A shame really, how further developments treated the indigenus peoples - but I digress)

   Christmas Eve/Christmas Day - December 24th/25th

   New Year's Eve - Celebrated on the evening of December 31st and into the morning of January 1st.

   Schools are usually out for around a 2 week period, starting before Christmas and ending after the 1st.

    We have elves, but not so much them watching our houses, they just build the tioys, and maybe help Santa with deliveries and running important errands - I guess over here, Santa has a sophisticated network of hidden cameras :). I like the faeries concept too. In my mind, Elves are a little taller and more sunbstantial - like maybe 3 - 5 ft. Faeries on the other hand are in the under-a-foot-tall range, have gossamer wings and can turn invisible - making much better spies for the Big Boss! :D

    Well, I guess that's enough of a peek into my weird brain :D


Oh, and Boxing Day is based on the tradition of giving gifts to the less fortunate members of society. I guess you're supposed to give a gift in a box to someone less fortunate, or something?
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679866 tn?1240005366
I think we've been ripped off in Australia. We dont have thanksgiving!.....We dont have celebration of St Nicholas or rituals of candy in shoes etc... Dec 6th is just Dec 6th.
We only celebrate Christmas Day 25th - usually there are some parties and celebrations on the eve (24th) and then Boxing Day 26th Dec (dont even know why its called that) is another holiday but nothing special happpens and then we are on to New Years Eve.
We are so boring compared.
However the excitement is here. Specially now the tree has gone up and the decorations are around. I was thinking I might do silver and gold together next year - now wouldnt that sparkle!
Fairy's and Elves help St Nic (Father Xmas, Santa whoever we like to call him) make and pack and send out all the presents to everyone but they also hang about watching to make sure we are all good!
I've always wondered about thanksgiving and what it is for and the whys and traditions surrounding it.???
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620923 tn?1452915648
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Hi Sue....it sounds real pretty....each yr we do a different theme...and or colors.....I have collected alot of different ornaments over the yrs....the sparkly stuff on a string we call garland....tinsel is not attached on a string...loose long thin individual strands.

Fairies and elves?....didn't hear that one....but we do celebrate St Nicholas...tonight when the kids go to sleep u put candies in their shoes ( they set them outside their bedroom door) and Dec 6th is the feast of St Nicholas.I t is also my daughter's Bday, so she always looks forward to it....her room mate just sent a text asking if she remembered it correctly...so she'll have her candies 2morrow!!

I hope u all share ur traditions too!! how u dec ect....
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679866 tn?1240005366
I like red and gold......................We decorated our xmas tree last night.
Its all exciting again with a 6 yr old in the house.!!!
We have a gold angel on top of our green tree and red and gold tinsel (sparkly stuff on a string - dont know what you call it over there) all over it with gold and red glass balls and a string of different coloured flashing lights going full on. All the fairies and elves live in the tree and watch us and make sure we are good to get great presents. (no Shane they havent spoken to me yet - but sure will let you know if they do...)
Geez I love being a MUM.
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620923 tn?1452915648
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do u decorate for the holiday in a traditional way and colors or with a modern twist?
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620923 tn?1452915648
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hope u all had a good holiday yesterday!!...those that celebrated.....

who all went shopping early this AM???....I did not, buy dh did....lines wrapped around the side of the buildings......so, if we r in a eco slump,...not sure about that,..... I guess Black Friday may have kept it's title.....
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680984 tn?1241641032
Boy can I relate to the 70 hour a week bit in HR!  I worked in Banking and I was there until 7 every nite plus took work home. I got screwed out of my LTD because the LTD company said i filed 3 days too early.  I appealed but they would not listen to me.  So I am going to be appling for disablity now. I'm not sure I want to go back into to HR.  I love the people under but the boss above are usually so out of touch with what the employees need, and after all what does HR know?  I would allow employees to come to my office just to vent off about stuff that they couldn't say - I always kept it confidential, but they needed an outlet.  Since I was an AVP, they couldn't really say much to me about it.  It improved moral and let me know what the employees really thought.  So don't go into banking if you go back to work..... not good.

Joy
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620923 tn?1452915648
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...I know, but the drs I 've seen said I could not go back to work, but were unavail when the ins comp called about my LTD......I can contest it and that's y I am trying to get to NY....the LTD ins comp said I had all these restrictions and my employere would not have ne thing for me with the limitations, but because my title was HR the ins comp said I could sit to work.....but of u know what....it's for a retailer...u multi task...HR is expected to walk the sales floor for 4 hrs shift, folding , straightening...and stepping in when assoc had problems with customers.....and I was working 70 plus hrs a wk......I am still tired and out since last nov.....but term was July '08......if I can get the LTD then I can collect for 3 yrs....and I hope at that point or b4 I can go back to work....but no more retail.....
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555358 tn?1292532061
Have you started paperwork for disability or anything. You may be elligable and if you are approved they back pay to when you first file.

Doesn't hurt to try.
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620923 tn?1452915648
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lol.....I can't walk for too long, so I don't go. I hate shopping, always have.


and no job  = no money $$$  :(

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555358 tn?1292532061
Heh, no. My wife tends to do the shopping - I only have to buy for her :D.

Hmm, now that you bring it up though, that could be an issue. I can't drive anymore. Guess I'll have to get someone else to carry me to the mall :).
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620923 tn?1452915648
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yes I am....u didn't answer the ? about holiday shopping.....do u do urs online....last yr I was recooping from knee surgery...so I did online and my daughter did the rest.
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555358 tn?1292532061
I would have thought you'd get a lot mopre than we do. Technically I'm in the south - just not deep south.

You're one of those Yankees! :D
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620923 tn?1452915648
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lately....it sounds ike u get more than we do here!!

did u start ur holiday shopping yet?
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555358 tn?1292532061
Some, but not as much as we did when I was growing up. Maybe a few light dustings and 1 or 2 good ones a year.
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620923 tn?1452915648
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I guess , and   if it was silly convo.....doubly so!

do u get snow?....
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555358 tn?1292532061
So, would that be; "I fribbled the day away online."?
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