OMG! Was hemorrhaging a miscarriage?

[ALT76]

My doctor said it looks like I ovulated last month.  I thought I did too.  This is actually an exceptionally good thing amidst all of the bad, but it got me thinking tonight (and now I can't sleep).  I'm starting to put together the pieces and begining to wonder - did I have a miscarriage?  For those of you keeping up with my posts, there was the hemorrhaging the night before my surgery - bleeding and passing tons of clots like I've never done before in my life.  I FELT pregnant - DH and I bd'd when I thought I O'd.  It was strange because I usually just gush CM all month long because my hormones are a mess, but last cycle it actually seemed normal, and the CM and O pains coincided on the exact day of my cycle that I used to O on clomid (I O'd late between CD's 19-21).  So we went for it.  I had tried to start the BCP last cycle, and only took it for the first 6 days of my cycle.  I'm wondering if since I O late, that was enough to align my hormones and get me to O - my obgyn thinks I did.  He said he saw a corpus luteum during my lap.  Now I'm wondering if he was feeling me out to see if I put the pieces together without bringing it up himself to upset me.  HMMMMMM..... Ovulation, corpus luteum, CRAZY hemorrhaging???

When I had my last miscarriage, I had a beta that was completely negative (after having a positive one days earlier) and that night I started bleeding.  I had my pre-op tests and beta 2 days before surgery, and that night I started bleeding - so it would be no surprise that it was negative.  Then, the next night (the night before my surgery) was when I had the hemorrhaging.  It was so bad my doctor had me take 2 BCP's to slow it down and if it didn't I was supposed to go to the ER.  

OH OH OH  and the other thing is that I had nipple burn!  This is something I've only experienced after my trigger shots, or that one time I was pregnant.  It's when my nipples randomly (without having any known or apparent external irritation) feel like they were just dragged across the pavement behind a car.  It feels like brush burned nipples out of nowhere - so I was almost sure I was pregnant.  My husband and I kept laughing about how crazy it would be if I had to cancel surgery.  

Something told me not to take a test though.  I just didn't want to know.  I figured they'd do a beta before my surgery and I'd find out then.  But by the beta I was pretty sure af was coming so I wasn't too optimistic that day.  Now I'm kinda driving myself crazy a little bit, but I'm not sure if I'll ever know.  I WILL bring it up with my OBGYN next week at my official post-op appt though.  I really wonder if he wasn't feeling me out with the corpus luteum thing.  He said "it looks like you ovulated last month - I noted a corpus luteum.  You know what a corpus luteum is, right?" - according to my research, it says if the egg is not fertilized, the corpus luteum dies, triggering a drop in progesterone and then your period.  If I had my period, why would the corpus luteum still be there?  It says if you're pregnant, HCG tells the corpus luteum to keep producing progesterone and the corpus luteum would still be there.  

I'm pretty convinced, but I don't know for sure.  I'll see what he says.  If I was, I'm glad I never knew :o(  It just would've made that hemorrhaging experience even more traumatic, and I probably would've canceled my much needed surgery.

And I never would've found out what a fricken mess my womb actually is inside, which I just found out about today.

[ALT76]

thank you both

does anyone else have any thoughts on this?  could it be?  I'm kinda driving myself crazy and it's gonna be a long wait until my appt friday!

[miky72]

Amy,
I'm not an expert but I do think it sounds like a miscarriage.
I would ask as many questions as you can on Friday because if indeed it was a miscarriage I'm sure they could tell during your op.
I understand being excited about it..it IS a good news!! it proves you can get pregnant on your own which is huge!!
keep me posted
Hugs

[kmcarino]

I am glad to hear that you have a positive attitude.  I'm sorry that you may have miscarried but like you said, at least you did not know at the time and you had the surgery that you needed and the best part of all is that you may have gotten pregnant on your own with no meds so keep thinking thoughts like that.  I hope you can continue to look at the good things about what happened.  I hope you are feeling better.

[ALT76]

the more I read about the corpus luteum, the more I'm almost 100% convinced

it's the dying and DEGENERATION of the corpus luteum that leads the the drop in progesterone which THEN leads to menstruation.  Leaving me to think that by the time af comes, there probably isn't much left of it.  Why would it have still been there if that bleeding was my period?

At first I was really sad, but I'm trying to be positive and think - hey, if it's true, than we did it on our own!  It's actually really good news!  With the exception of 6 days on bcp's, no other hormones or procedures were involved!  So now that I'm getting my womb conditions straightened out, maybe there is hope yet because my lack of ovulation and irregular cycles seem to be improving.