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765439 tn?1292960414

having colonoscopy/upper endoscopy done please answerr these questions!!!

ok,so i have had stomach issues for 6 years. i am 20 years old,and my doctor and i agreed this was the best way to find out whats' wrong. ihave had blood testing for celiacs,ultrasounds,stool work etc!!!!! all was ''normal''

i have some concerns though!!!!

1-i have hemmorhoids due to my stomach issues/ im scared that the colonoscopy will hurt badly due to this...im also scared that even if it doesnt hurt during the procedure...it will aggravate the hemmorhoids so badly that they will hurt afterwords... any thoughts?

2-i have a chest injury from lifting weights. and  i havent gotten it resolved, because the orthopedic doctor  iwentt to was useless. its around the sternum area. i have heard that a side effect of the upper gi is chest pain...given the fact  i already have a chest injury, im really scared this procedure will tear my chest up even worse than it i!!! my sternum is pretty much torn apart..obviously its not that bad if im still able to function,but its still a bad injury...im just nervous this will aggravate it!

3-my doctor and i discussed that reaching the ileum is the main goal of the clonoscopy. it is imperative we try to reach it to get a clear sense of whats going on with me. my friend who has chrons says its a waste of time if they dont get to the ileum...either way whether its a waste or not,  i want them to search my ileum. my doctor said  sometimes patients ileum's cant be reached. im  concerned he wont be able to get into mine!!!!!!!!!! help!

4-ive heard the movi prep is horrible...how am i gonna get through this ?? ha.
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765439 tn?1292960414
noone knows?

its really frustraiting when noone answers.
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Hi, hope I can ease your fears a little.

1.  The colonoscopy will not irritate your hemorrhoids, the scope is a very small tube and your BM's are more likely to irritate them than this small tube.

2. The endoscopy tube is also very small, you swallow bigger bites of food, and in no way will it affect your sternum.

3.  A colonoscopy is never a waste of time.  It allows the bowel to be viewed and any polyps or other issues can only be found this way.  They normally reach the ileum, if they don't they will find an alternative way, don't worry about this until you know if you have anything to worry about.

4.  The worst part of the prep is the many trips to the bathroom, and it only lasts a couple of hours.  Keep a book or something to read, and keep your anus covered with vaseline to keep it from getting irrtitated.  This irritation is the biggest complaint, but I've learned all the tricks.  You will find out this is a big nothing and will wonder why you were so worried about it.

It is really not bad, my 3 chiuldren had to endure them every year since they were little kids due to an hereditary colon disease, they never complained.  Take care.
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765439 tn?1292960414
thanks fort he reply

im not sure if my chest injury is in my sternum,but  i know i feel pain there as well as the ribs. so the upper gi wont damage it? i hear that chest pain is a side effect of the upper gi (and thats for normal people without injuries so i figured maybe itll aggravate or worsen my already preexisting one)

i was thinking of sitting in the bathroom the whole day of the prep but it might make the hemorrhoids worse?

ive heard hemmorhoids could be repaired surgically. do you think my doc will try to fix them during my colonoscopy

ive also heard bad things aboutt the anesthesia they use. what kinds should i ask for?

i had a pipe down my throat as a kid for my vocal chords..i really hated it i m scared the upper gi wil be so bad..if its as small as food why will itt make my throat sore?

also are polyps symptomatic?  i hear people have polyps removed. is that just to PREVENT things like cancr, or is it possible that  ihave polyps and removing them wil lcuse me relief.
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765439 tn?1292960414
bump? noone wants to help me huh? some gastro ection this is...like my questions are hard.....you know how hard it is seeing no answers to my questions here..what is it to long for you
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765439 tn?1292960414
bump
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765439 tn?1292960414
not gonna stop bumping
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If you are patient and wait a couple days, people will answer your questions.  All the people that are answering questions are just regular people that are doing this in their spare time because they like to help.  We are not paid or anything for this.  We are not answering your question because it is too long or hard, just because we haven't had the time yet.

The reason why upper gi's make people have pain are either because the tube causes people to swallow gas which causes some discomfort until they release the gas, or because the tube causes a sore throat.  You may get more chest pain for these reasons, but it shouldn't aggravate your preexisting problems.

You shouldn't sit on the bathroom the entire day because it will worsen your hemorrhoids.  However, you can stay nearby to the bathroom so that you don't have far to walk to get the bathroom.  Make sure you keep your rectum moist with something like aquaphor.

The doctor will not repair your hemorrhoids during the colonoscopy.  They are not prepared to do this and the surgery to repair hemorrhoids needs to be talked about in detail before it is done, and it is not always done for hemorrhoids.

I don't know about which specific kinds of anesthesia they use, but you will probably get sedation as opposed to general anesthesia because it is safer.  This is something you should discuss with your doctor before the colonoscopy.

Usually when they look at your vocal chords they do it by numbing your throat and they sticking a tube down just a short way for a short time.  In an endoscopy, you are sedated so you usually don't remember they are doing it.  I've had two endoscopies and I remember nothing from either of them.

Polyps can be symptomatic but they usually are not.  Polyps are removed to prevent them from turning into something worse like cancer, but rarely it will actually help your symptoms by removing them.
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765439 tn?1292960414
thanks for the response! when you say i may get more chest pains,you mean temporarily im assuming is this right?

ma im so worried about this,but i need this done...ive been wimping out too long! ha.
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Yes, the chest pain is temporary until the gas passes from your stomach or goes into your intestines.
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765439 tn?1292960414
im nervous
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611999 tn?1298758291
You really should be ok.  I have had tons of endoscopys and colonoscopys.  The worse I have had is sore throat for a few days.  Did not aggrevate my chest at all.  I have had polyps removed also during the colonoscopy.  You may have a little bit of gas but thats normal.   The prep was not mad when I had miralax drink mixed with gatorade and dulcolax pills.  Can they do this method for your prep?   I was in the toilet a lot but did not stay in there all day. Do not eat very heavily for the few days before you prep and this can help.   I could eat broth and jello the day I was prepping so I was not as hungry.  

I have tried all methods of sedation such as

Demerol - Made me hallucinate
Versed you are out of it and should not remember much but some people wake up a little during the procedure
Nothing- endoscopy was uncomfortable but not unbearable colonoscopy did hurt a bit
Propofol - similar to general anestesia.  I felt nothing and was asleep the whole time.  My favorite method.  Only to be done in a hospital with an anesthesiologist controlling it.
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611999 tn?1298758291
meant the prep was not bad..
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765439 tn?1292960414
i told my doctor about the cheating method,and he said id get cheat results. he wants me to use movi prep which i nso scared to do...ive contemplated the miralax method(can  ido it with apple juice instead of gatorade???) i jsut want to get cleaned out so they can find what the hell is wrong with me!!!!!

also i have another question...lets assume i get my olon perfectly clean..can that in itself relieve my symptoms? is it possible im suffering fro ma dirty colon? i hear your colon is clean when youre pooping clear liquid..that has to be good for you
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611999 tn?1298758291
The cheating method?  What is that?   If you mean mirilax/dulcolax method then it would be fine.  I was always told to drink with gatorade so not sure about apple juice.  Maybe the gatorade helps to replenish your electrolytes since you are going so much.  I did that many times and I was 100% cleaned out.  All my GIs recommend this method.  

Cleaning your colon will not get rid of symptoms .
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765439 tn?1292960414
i meant the miralax method when  i said cheating. the doc said movi prep cleans you better but im scared i wont be able to drink it...and  also its 60 dollars.
how big ar the duralax pills?

and can you post the exact method. i am not very smart so dont wanna screw it up

why wont cleaning your colon get rid of symptoms? isnt it possible somethings stuck, and you dont have a condition like chrons..i see all these drcolonix ads
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611999 tn?1298758291
The dulcolax are tiny pills. I will send you a message.  Unless you have a serious blockage then it should not make symptoms go away.  If you have diverculitis or chrons etc the prep is not going to help it.
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765439 tn?1292960414

i asked them around 2 weeks ago if theyll do it with no anestisia and she said no..i was thinking of asking for none when i go there...do they need my permission? im embarraseed.

can i refuse the sedation?

my mainr easons for not wanting sedation are
i dont trust anyone to do anything to me when im unconsious.
i dont like people having full control over me when im unconscious,unaware,and not ready to defend myself
basically im saying i dont like not being aware of what people are doing to me

ALSO i hear the versed messes with your memories.....that crap wscares me.

ive heard of people doing an endoscopy and colonoscopy with no sedations.
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765439 tn?1292960414
i also wanna see if he can reach my ileums,
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611999 tn?1298758291
I did both with no sedation but it was in Italy .  I am not sure if they will do it here.  Can you get it done with the propofol?  This does not mess with your memory afterwards.  You wake up and do not have a drug hangover.  
Do not worry about being asleep while this is done.  You would rather have that than feel whats going on.  
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765439 tn?1292960414
how was it with no sedation? im not sure which method they are going to use. i heard the propfol was worse. i just really want it with no sedation. iv e read of people doing it with none. idk if they have to ask my permission. i feel embarrassed demanding none on the table..im not the most assertive guy

im also so nervous they wont reach my ileom
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611999 tn?1298758291
The propofol puts you completely under.  Its a very powerful drug commonly used for  general anesthesia induction and maintenance.  It is known for leaving you with no drug hangover or memory problems . It has a very short half life of a couple of minuted so it is given in increments during the procedure and you have a rapid awakening once it is stopped.    Doctors are now starting to use this in place of versed.  I dreamed during the procedure and woke up when they were wheeling me back in the room.  I was completely coherent in about 5 min.  I was a little sleepy for about 20 min and then felt normal.  I would only get this if you are in a hospital with an anesthesiologist administering it not a nurse or dr.  Since it is potent you want someone trained in CPR and airway management.

When I had no sedation for colonoscopy they could not finish because it hurt quite a bit when they had to maneuver around turns.  For endoscopy it was unpleasant but I was able to do it.  It did hurt some.  So depends on your pain tolerance.   I was gripping the side of the bed praying for it to end soon.  I was completely fine afterward.  

When I had versed and when I had demerol I was in and out of it during procedure and tried to pull scope out of my mouth and was high for a while afterwards.   I did not really like either.    The demerol was the worse out of the two.  I got sick and hallucinated as well with that.
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765439 tn?1292960414
so i am not being paranoid? versed will leave me with memory problems???????


im screwed if i do im screwed if i dont.....

im so close to cancelling this procedure...ive got enough cognitive problms as it
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611999 tn?1298758291
With Versed you can possibly be really out of it after the procedure and will want to probably sleep.  You may not remember much of what is said to you after the procedure so thats why they tell people to have a person with them to remember it.  It is nothing long term but it may bother some people to be so out of it for a little while afterwards.  
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765439 tn?1292960414
so its nothing long term? when u say little while after do u mean days? weeks? god im scare
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