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Hiv from semen on penis

Hello, I feel silly asking this question because I believe myself to be pretty knowledgeable about hiv transmission, but my hiv phobia wont let me move on. Earlier today I met a guy on tinder and beforehand I did ask if he was clean and said yes. We engaged in making out and then mutual masturbation because I told him thats all I felt comfortable with. Towards the end, he was on top and I came first on myself and he followed a few seconds later. His semen mostly went onto my chest but some fell onto my penis. I tried my best to keep it from getting on my head but some slipped through and landed directly on the head of my penis. I am circumsized if that matters. I promptly got up and wiped off my penis and he left. I know deep down this was not a risk but I cant let it go and would appreciate some opinions. Thank you!(:
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20801659 tn?1520443393
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The only ways HIV is spread are:
-Unprotected anal/vaginal penetrations.
-Sharing needles to inject drugs.
-Mother to child.

Mutual masturbations have never caused a single case of HIV infection in 40 years of history. Outside the body, the virus is so fragile and gets inactivated once exposed to air.

Whatever we tell you, if you have HIV phobia, I am afraid your thoughts are not going to change, so you better look for help.

All the best.
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Thank you for the reply. I do believe it is just my hiv phobia, but its also a part of me thats confused as if the hiv can really be  debilitated in the short second from leaving the penis to coming in contact with the penis head. I know the virus does not die but rather damaged and not able to latch onto proper T cells needed for infection. Does that damage really occur in those few seconds?
You repeated what DPulse said then put a question mark after it, however expecting someone to repeat what he said again serves no purpose.
Since hiv prevention is straightforward there is nothing else to say. The science is not dependent on you believing it and you don't have any medical training so I don't know how much more you can expect to learn.
My question was not his answer with a question mark at all. I was asking if the virus really becomes inactive that quickly. You dont have to be condescending for no reason(:
He said it " gets inactivated once exposed to air. " Perhaps I was wrong to say he said the same thing as you, however he effectively means the same thing.  Inactivated in air is effectively dead, and it is not dependent on belief.

hiv prevention is straightforward if you reread the 3 - there is no need to study things like inactivation time theories.
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Here is the same thing DP said, only in more detail.
This answers all of your HIV questions, and if you can think of any more just reread about the 3. You had zero risk therefore  testing is irrelevant to your situation because you had zero risk. HIV is a fragile virus, which is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.  
Only 3 adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal with a penis
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex with a penis
3. sharing needles that you inject with.
The only way to get HIV is if you did one of the 3. The situation you describe is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. This HIV science is 40 years old and very well established, so no detail that you can add to your encounter will change it from zero risk. Because of all the research statistics, doctors have calculated the risk from what you describe to be less than that of being hit by a meteor, therefore no one will get HIV from what you did in the next 40 years of your life either.
If you didn't have one of the 3 then you are just worrying about your own hiv theory - which is unrealistic for you to think that can become reality - so you should move on back to your happy life instead.
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I just want to reliterate that
1) yes the virus is "inactivated" in a sense that it is no longer infectious
2) it is not alive in the first place so it cant be dead
3) no one is going throw a virus in the air and count the amount of seconds it takes to degrade. All u need to know is that it is not an air borne virus and is gets degraded quickly enough that it is not infectious in air.
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Yes thank you all for your informative messages. I usually read these threads of paranoid people making up a bunch of what ifs and roll my eyes. never thought I would find myself doing the exact same. Too much time on google I suppose. I am an infectious disease major, granted only in my second year but its crazy how ocd and phobias can push pass common sense and knowledge.
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"Medical students' disease (also known as second year syndrome or intern's syndrome) is a condition frequently reported in medical students, who perceive themselves to be experiencing the symptoms of a disease that they are studying. The condition is associated with the fear of contracting the disease in question."
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Wow that is crazy! Thanks for that info mike. That might one of the reasons I'm switching my major to zoology haha. Hypochondriacs probably dont make the best doctors! So just to be clear my encounter was no risk?
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Please see a therapist for your irrational fear, there is no point in repeating your question, the answer can't change, please accept the help offered to you. Your concern doesn't belong to this forum as we are only specific to HIV prevention.
Anthony, please get some therapy to help you with this. You're really sounding exactly like those paranoid people that you mentioned in your post above that you said you have rolled your eyes at before. That's exactly how you're coming across here too. You're one of them now but you don't have to be if you get help for your irrational phobia.
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