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Mutual oral risk
Hi,
42 yr old heterosexual male here. Had recently engaged a CSW and engaged in 3 unprotected oral( recieving) and 1 unprotected oral( giving) with her. No penetrative sex.
As per the pinned FAQ of Curfew X, recieving oral is no risk. However as per point 15 of the FAQ it only talks about giving oral to a man and the 1/10,000 ot 1/20,000 risk through that. Could you pls advise what about the risk whilst giving oral to a woman ?
I know in general all the volunteers here say Oral is no risk but wanted to check this specifically wrt to the given FAQ
Many thanks
42 yr old heterosexual male here. Had recently engaged a CSW and engaged in 3 unprotected oral( recieving) and 1 unprotected oral( giving) with her. No penetrative sex.
As per the pinned FAQ of Curfew X, recieving oral is no risk. However as per point 15 of the FAQ it only talks about giving oral to a man and the 1/10,000 ot 1/20,000 risk through that. Could you pls advise what about the risk whilst giving oral to a woman ?
I know in general all the volunteers here say Oral is no risk but wanted to check this specifically wrt to the given FAQ
Many thanks
The science doesn't change so same answer as before. Was there a penis in your anus during the oral? No, so move on.
Not sure why you used the words "in general" because that makes your statement incorrect.
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV-Prevention/Risk-from-fingering-followed-by-masturbation/show/3059144
Not sure why you used the words "in general" because that makes your statement incorrect.
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV-Prevention/Risk-from-fingering-followed-by-masturbation/show/3059144
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The wors "in general" was used loosely. I immensely respect the work that you guys do especially as you do this in your free time, but you would appreciate that I didnt just ask a random question without having read through previous posts and the pinned FAQ. There is no mention of giving oral to a woman risk in point number 15 of the faq hence I asked that question. Didnt think it warrants the response that you gave. Thanks
Okay, here's the long version of my normal advice. It all boils down to the same thing, no penis in anus or vagina, and no injection= zero risk.
Your situation involves personal contact with an object in air (maybe blood, maybe cut, mouth, oral, etc. ) . You will be happy to learn that you had no risk, because you can't get hiv from personal contact except unprotected penetrating vaginal or anal with a penis, neither of which you did and you didn't share hollow needles to inject with which is the only other way to acquire hiv - there are ONLY 3 ways to get hiv. Note that 2 of them require a penis and the third requires a hollow injecting shared needle - there are no OTHER ways to get hiv. Analysis of large numbers of infected people over the 40 years of hiv history has proven that people don't get hiv in the way you are worried is a risk.
Hiv is a fragile virus in air or saliva and is effectively instantly dead in either air or saliva so the WORST that could happen is dead virus rubbed you, and obviously anything which is dead cannot live again so you are good. Blood and cuts would not be relevant in your situation since the hiv has become effectively dead, so you don't have to worry about them to be sure that you are safe.
There is no reason for a person to test when they are safe. The advice took into consideration that the other person might be positive, so move on and enjoy life instead of thinking about this non-event. hiv prevention is straightforward since there are only 3 ways you can become infected, so next time you wonder if you had a risk, ask yourself this QUESTION. "Did I do any of the 3?" Then after you ANSWER "No, there wasn't a penis in an anus or vagina and I wasn't injected" you will know that it's time to move on back to your happy life.
No one got hiv from what you did during 40 years of hiv history and no one will get it in the next 40 years of your life either. You can do what you did any time and be safe from hiv.
The other person's status is irrelevant when you have no exposure to live virus.
If you still have questions about your risk, after reading all of the above, then it is because you didn't answer the QUESTION above.
Your situation involves personal contact with an object in air (maybe blood, maybe cut, mouth, oral, etc. ) . You will be happy to learn that you had no risk, because you can't get hiv from personal contact except unprotected penetrating vaginal or anal with a penis, neither of which you did and you didn't share hollow needles to inject with which is the only other way to acquire hiv - there are ONLY 3 ways to get hiv. Note that 2 of them require a penis and the third requires a hollow injecting shared needle - there are no OTHER ways to get hiv. Analysis of large numbers of infected people over the 40 years of hiv history has proven that people don't get hiv in the way you are worried is a risk.
Hiv is a fragile virus in air or saliva and is effectively instantly dead in either air or saliva so the WORST that could happen is dead virus rubbed you, and obviously anything which is dead cannot live again so you are good. Blood and cuts would not be relevant in your situation since the hiv has become effectively dead, so you don't have to worry about them to be sure that you are safe.
There is no reason for a person to test when they are safe. The advice took into consideration that the other person might be positive, so move on and enjoy life instead of thinking about this non-event. hiv prevention is straightforward since there are only 3 ways you can become infected, so next time you wonder if you had a risk, ask yourself this QUESTION. "Did I do any of the 3?" Then after you ANSWER "No, there wasn't a penis in an anus or vagina and I wasn't injected" you will know that it's time to move on back to your happy life.
No one got hiv from what you did during 40 years of hiv history and no one will get it in the next 40 years of your life either. You can do what you did any time and be safe from hiv.
The other person's status is irrelevant when you have no exposure to live virus.
If you still have questions about your risk, after reading all of the above, then it is because you didn't answer the QUESTION above.
sb Okay, here's the long version of my normal advice. It all boils down to the same thing, no penis in anus or vagina, and no injection= zero risk. This matches the original advice you were given by Curfew in the link I posted.
I have read this response and I have seen this response from you previously in other posts ( not mine) as well. I am not sure why you are not acknowledging my simple point - point 15 of the FAQ does not contain risk for giving oral to woman. It only contains risk of giving oral to man. I was asking about that, and you refuse to answer that. As I said, I respect this forum immediately, and I am sure you have your reasons for not acknowleding my question, so will not say anything more. Once again, thanks for all that you do
I'm sure you know the meaning of the word "other" in the advice creates a roadblock for any "what-ifs" that you can think of including the one you keep asking, but your response seems as if you don't.
Then reread about the 40 and move on.
Then reread about the 40 and move on.
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