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Oral risk and possible symptoms
I performed unprotected oral sex on an ex-boyfriend. He didn’t ejaculate in my mouth.
7 days later I had a sore throat that started when I swallowed but then would come and go for 2 weeks and a headache that lasted 2 days. I also felt a few tiny lymph nodes in neck. A little over 1 cm.
14 days later I had muscle ache and joint pain. The muscle aches eventually went away when I got a massage but the joint pain persists and shoots in and out still 5 weeks later.
Day 14 I felt a swollen lymph node in my left armpit that’s about an inch big but not visible. Very deep in the armpit.
On day 34. I have two small lumps on both sides of the upper level of my inner cheek. They don’t hurt or burn or anything. Throughout the course of this, I never had a temperature or rash. Was this a risk for HIV? Could any of these symptoms be ARS?
7 days later I had a sore throat that started when I swallowed but then would come and go for 2 weeks and a headache that lasted 2 days. I also felt a few tiny lymph nodes in neck. A little over 1 cm.
14 days later I had muscle ache and joint pain. The muscle aches eventually went away when I got a massage but the joint pain persists and shoots in and out still 5 weeks later.
Day 14 I felt a swollen lymph node in my left armpit that’s about an inch big but not visible. Very deep in the armpit.
On day 34. I have two small lumps on both sides of the upper level of my inner cheek. They don’t hurt or burn or anything. Throughout the course of this, I never had a temperature or rash. Was this a risk for HIV? Could any of these symptoms be ARS?
Your situation involves personal contact with an object in air (penis, clothes, fluids, maybe even blood, , maybe cuts etc. ). You will be happy to learn that you had no risk, because you can't get hiv from personal contact except unprotected penetrating vaginal or anal with a penis, neither of which you did and you didn't share hollow needles to inject with which is the only other way to acquire hiv - there are only 3 ways to get hiv. Analysis of large numbers of infected people over the 40 years of hiv history has proven that people don't get hiv in the way you are worried is a risk.
HIV is a fragile virus in air or saliva and is effectively instantly dead in either air or saliva so the WORST that could happen is dead virus rubbed you, and obviously anything which is dead cannot live again so you are good. Blood and cuts would not be relevant in your situation since the hiv has become effectively dead, so you don't have to worry about them to be sure that you are safe.
There is no reason for a person to test when they are safe. The advice took into consideration that the other person might be positive, so move on and enjoy life instead of thinking about this non-event. hiv prevention is straightforward since there are only 3 ways you can become infected, so next time you wonder if you had a risk, ask yourself this QUESTION. "Did I do any of the 3?" Then after you say "No, I didn't" you will know that it's time to move on back to your happy life.
No one got hiv from what you did during 40 years of hiv history and no one will get it in the next 40 years of your life either. You can do what you did any time and be safe.
You might have got Covid if you got anything at all but you would have to see your doc and test if you think you have something - can't be hiv. Sore throat coming and going sounds more like it is in your imagination unless it is something weird like Covid. You don't have any medical training so should stop poking your lymph, because you don't know what it is supposed to normally feel like.
HIV is a fragile virus in air or saliva and is effectively instantly dead in either air or saliva so the WORST that could happen is dead virus rubbed you, and obviously anything which is dead cannot live again so you are good. Blood and cuts would not be relevant in your situation since the hiv has become effectively dead, so you don't have to worry about them to be sure that you are safe.
There is no reason for a person to test when they are safe. The advice took into consideration that the other person might be positive, so move on and enjoy life instead of thinking about this non-event. hiv prevention is straightforward since there are only 3 ways you can become infected, so next time you wonder if you had a risk, ask yourself this QUESTION. "Did I do any of the 3?" Then after you say "No, I didn't" you will know that it's time to move on back to your happy life.
No one got hiv from what you did during 40 years of hiv history and no one will get it in the next 40 years of your life either. You can do what you did any time and be safe.
You might have got Covid if you got anything at all but you would have to see your doc and test if you think you have something - can't be hiv. Sore throat coming and going sounds more like it is in your imagination unless it is something weird like Covid. You don't have any medical training so should stop poking your lymph, because you don't know what it is supposed to normally feel like.
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I thought maybe it couldn’t be ARS because all the symptoms didn’t manifest af the same time or start or end within a few days. But I’m just confused. If this is no risk then why do the doctors and CDC say there is some risk although very low? If that is said then there must have been something documented.
It has been calculated that you have a greater chance of being hit by a meteorite than hiv from oral. It hasn't happened in 40 years and won't in the next 40 of your life either. CDC is overly conservative in case someone gets it from oral in the next 1,000 years.
"If that is said then there must have been something documented." No that is not correct. There can be a theoretical risk that is never documented because it has never happened.
What about the doctors that were previously affiliated with this site saying “the risk for infection from performing oral sex on an infected partner is less than 1 infection in 10,000 exposures” and that there have been a handful of proven cases?
They probably said there were claims that are unproven.
On this site Dr. handsfield and Dr. hook have said 1 in 10,000 exposures is the risk and on their current forum ask the experts, they said oral sex DOES transmit HIV, penis to oral: that is, performing fellatio on infected males can transmit HIV to the oral partner. The only unproven scientifically is HIV transmitted oral to penis, or by cunnilingus (oral-vaginal contact).
Your question has been patiently and fully answered that your exposure is not considered a risk for HIV. Therefore, none of your symptoms would be related. Please talk to your doctor. We wish you the best.
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There is something called theoretical risk and that is all ANY expert in HIV would give in terms of risk for giving oral sex. In the real world, it DOES NOT happen. There has not been a single, documented and proven case of HIV happening because of oral and THAT is what the doctors that were/are affiliated with this site say. You will not get HIV from giving oral sex.
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Judging from a theoretical risk that does not make it outright impossible, are my symptoms concerning to you at all?
um, nobody has gotten hiv that way and you won't be the first. NO risk. No matter how many times you try to insinuate it is. No one gets hiv that way.
and no. They are not. HIV is NEVER ever diagnosed because of symptoms because the symptoms you describe are innocuous and common to most viruses. You had no risk and do not even need to test. That's what you need to hear and internalize and you will not get a different answer from anyone on this forum that is moderated for accuracy. I can tell you are anxious and a sorry for that. But HIV is not a concern with your exposure.
It was suggested you were at risk of getting covid. You should get tested for that.
I got tested a few times for covid and was negative.
Your symptoms are self diagnosed. You don't have any medical training so you need to have a doc study your lymph instead to make sure there is actually a problem. A sore throat that comes and goes seems minor if anything and many people get headaches regularly.
Can you explain to me what swollen lymph nodes in ARS are like then? Are they usually visible on the surface and how big are they? And do my symptoms coming and going not together mean anything?
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