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Hello all I hope that y’all are able to put my mind at ease. On Wednesday May 31 I found myself at a massage parlor in which an Asian lady performed an unprotected handjob with unknown lubricant until I ejaculated.i did not have sex, anal or oral. I did not ask the lady about her status regarding STDS. I started to get anxious and worried about HIV that 2 days later on Friday  I decide to go back and take a look at her hands which didn’t have any cuts that I could see somehow I that did not put my mind at ease. So I went to the ER and I started PEP.
My worried is that
1. I really don’t know whether she had any kind of cut at the time of the handjob and if she did does that put me at risk?
2.Because I don’t know what kind of lubricant she use. If she used her vaginal lubricant or tainted oil would that put me at risk?
3. At the time I didn’t have any bleeding wounds that I know of but I did have a single pimple-like bump on the tip of my foreskin. I am diagnosed with genital HSV not sure if it was a sore, it was not bleeding but I don’t know if that would be considered “broken skin”. Is this a possible entry for the virus ? Would the urethra or the mucosa on the foresking be an entry point for the virus if she was bleeding or used her vaginal fluids ?
3. Was starting pep unnecessary? I have a wife with a breastfed baby and I’m afraid to possibly infect them.

I have read hundred of forums and articles. Some state that it’s possible but other state that it is not possible and I really don’t know what to believe. I’ve read that a handjob is either no risk or low risk. What would my certain situation be categorized ? If penis to vaginal unprotected sex is a 1/1000 chance that you will get the virus what would the chances with a handjob be ?
Thanks you all for your time. I hope to hear from you all soon.
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15695260 tn?1549593113
Our members have given you accurate information and answers. As they have stated, you had no risk for HIV and do not need pep.

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Wow, you have read hundreds of articles and forums - you're making hiv your full time hobby for zero reason. Such a waste of your time, effectively googling for death because you're unwilling to take "no risk" for an answer.

Since you didn't answer the QUESTION above I'll do it for you. No there wasn't a penis in my anus and I wasn't injected with a hollow needle so I had zero risk and should move on instead of trying to convince this forum about the silly idea that people get hiv from cuts - you think athletes in contact sports who get cut, or people who shake hands, or barbers who cut people by mistake, etc.  spread hiv but no one BUT YOU knows about it?
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20620809 tn?1504362969
That's nuts that the ER gave you pep for a non risk like that. Shame on them. Pep is a toxic and hard to take drug and you do not need it. Risks for HIV include having unprotected vaginal or anal sex or sharing IV needles. Air and saliva inactivate the virus.  Hand jobs do NOT transmit hiv. You had no risk so should definitely not be taking pep (reserved for anal or vaginal intercourse with full penetration without condom when the other person is KNOWN to be HIV positive.) What country are you in?
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Im located in the US, California to be more precise. If I had no risk then why do various sites state that there is some kind of risk when it comes to open cuts or sores ?
I can't speak for other sites but this site is moderated and guided by experts in HIV.  They delete any inaccurate information.  
Hi all wanted to post an UPDATE. Yesterday I had an appointment at the planned parenthood where I expressed my situation to the doctor just like I did on here. The physician then assessed my risk level where she said that my risk through a handjob with or without broken skin on my penis, assuming there was no blood on her hand ( which we don’t know if she did) was NEGLIGIBLE. I proceeded to ask whether I should keep taking the PEP and she said that because we I had expressed that I had a wife and a breastfeeding baby and was afraid of possibly infecting them and that we really didn’t know whether they was any blood or vaginal secretion on the ladys hands she thought I should just keep taking the PEP as a form of precaution.  
Also they performed a rapid test which resulted in a non-reactive. I had read somewhere that result might be altered while taking PEP which I asked them about and they said I was wrong. Was I right ?
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Your situation involves personal contact with an object in air  ( hand, maybe blood, lubricant, maybe cuts, "bump" etc. ). You will be happy to learn that you had no risk, because you can't get hiv from personal contact except unprotected penetrating vaginal or anal with a penis, neither of which you did and you didn't share hollow needles to inject with which is the only other way to acquire hiv - there are ONLY 3 ways to get hiv. Note that 2 of them require a penis and the third requires a hollow injecting shared needle - there are no OTHER ways to get hiv. Analysis of large numbers of infected people over the 40 years of hiv history has proven that people don't get hiv in the way you are worried is a risk.
Hiv is a fragile virus in air or saliva and is effectively instantly dead in either air or saliva so the WORST that could happen is dead virus rubbed you, and obviously anything which is dead cannot live again so you are good. Blood and cuts would not be relevant in your situation since the hiv has become effectively dead, so you don't have to worry about them to be sure that you are safe.
There is no reason for a person to test when they are safe. The advice took into consideration that the other person might be positive, so move on and enjoy life instead of thinking about this non-event. hiv prevention is straightforward since there are only 3 ways you can become infected, so next time you wonder if you had a risk, ask yourself this QUESTION. "Did I do any of the 3?" Then after you ANSWER "No, I didn't" you will know that it's time to move on back to your happy life.
No one got hiv from what you did during 40 years of hiv history and no one will get it in the next 40 years of your life either.  You can do what you did any time and be safe from hiv.
The other person's status is irrelevant when you have no exposure to live virus.
You can read that anything will theoretically infect you, on the internet. The first step to peace is to stop googling such silly stories "cold turkey" because until you do that, you will continue to scare yourself for no reason.
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Wow, you have read hundreds of articles and forums - you're making hiv your full time hobby for zero reason. Such a waste of your time, effectively googling for death because you're unwilling to take "no risk" for an answer.

Since you didn't answer the QUESTION above I'll do it for you. No there wasn't a penis in my anus and I wasn't injected with a hollow needle so I had zero risk and should move on instead of trying to convince this forum about the silly idea that people get hiv from cuts - you think athletes in contact sports who get cut, or people who shake hands, or barbers who cut people by mistake, etc.  spread hiv but no one BUT ONLY YOU knows about the spread?
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