whether frottage/dipping

[dev2000]

Please help me.

I took VIP Room Lapdance of  15 mins with a stripper. she sat in my Lap nude, She took my penis out and I thought she was going to just masburate which I though was safe.
But suddenly she was trying to align my penis along with her vagina lips and she was on top. it was so dark, I am not sure whether my penis really touched her or not. I backed out my penis, I said I do not have protection and we will do next time.

Every thing looked safe, but after 5 to 7 mins while leaving the room she asked I should tip $100 for the extra service cliaming that we had sex. I immediately ran to restroom, checked for wetness on penis head not found, pissed and cleaned my penis with sanitizer.  I came back I paid $100 more and I asked her whether my penis really touched her vagina. She said it did and said not to freak out saying she had only one boy friend and clean.

I am sure I was not drunk. As per me, when that act was happening probably for 30 secs, I did not feel even touching skin or wetness. . If she were correct, probably I was busy in backing up.

Next day with in 12 hours, I went to Doctor and he said the risk was low but not zero. If I insist he could give PEP. He also showed that PEP was not recommended for few drops of fluid exchange and HIV status was unknown. And also If he were me, he would not take PEP, mean while I googled and found frottage (thinking in worst case mine would be frottage of 30 secs) is safe. So it sounded I was fine that time. The doctor cautioned not to have unprotected sex with my loved ones for 3 months and get tested after 3 months.

But after 3 weeks I found some Rash on my stumuch, then within 6 days after that rash, I took DNA test from Labcorp as below on 29th day after this exposure

HIV-1  Antibody, - Negative.  
HIV 1/0/2 Abs, Qual HIV 1/0/2 ABS, non-reactive/negative
HIV-1 DNA  Negative.

   Now rash was healed in 3 days and did not come again. But here and there some sore throat  probably due to soaring/common cold. I feel little pain in my right arm which is freaking.I am planning to take antibody test on July 6 th i.e. 9th week after exposure.

As per this forum we will know when we dip. In my case, I did not feel  frottage/wet but only issues were it was so dark to be sure I am 100% correct and she was sitting on my lap and me not having control.

Can you please  ***** my risk?

[joggen]

If you had penetrated her you would have known as Lizzie said. The stripper was just doing what strippers do- trying to shake you down for extra money.

[dev2000]

Hi vance,

  I am sorry my mobile changed Vance to cancer in my reply. I apologize for that

[dev2000]

Hi cancer,

   My question was not about whether penetration is a risk or not.

   Trying to understand whether it comes under penetration or frottage.

   I am sure even now  I  did not feel skin touch or wet Ness, or force on my penis head. I think you feel these while  frottage.

I am 100% sure on above that I did not feel above like skin touch or force etc, since she claimed it did touch her vagina, I got jammed what if worstcase scenerios.

  I guess my question is that with out being felt skin contact, force as she was sitting in my lap and with out wetness, can penetration happen?

[Vance2335]

If you penitrated her then it is a risk.

[dev2000]

Thank you very much for your reply.

I was confused and in anxiety as the doctor I met for PEP told that risk is very very low but not close to zero. He also cautioned not to have unprotected sex till 3 months with my girlfriend.

If I were wrong and the stripper were correct, in the worst case my penis head might have touched entrance/little bit in for 15 secs or less. If this was the case I do not need futher testing right? The 29th day DNA PCR and antibody combo was enough to rule out HIV right?

We will know for sure if we had really dipped/penetrated or entered into cervex area right?

[LIZZIE LOU]

transmission REQUIRES penetration.  you would have known if there was any penetration.

rubbing / grinding is not a risk