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Ok. I need some help.  I had an exposure on November 8th 2015.  Unprotected vaginal with female... I'm a male.   Since then I took the Alere determine Ag/Ab combo at 28 days.  Starting the 13th week after exposure until now , I have taken 7 oraquick oral swab tests.  All were negative.  But here is the X factor.  My second to last oral swab I took , I knew it was negative, for some reason I decided to keep the test .  After hours of checking on it the result stayed the same until late one night I took my cell phone flashlight and could have sworn I seen a line on the T.  I even removed the film and could of sworn it was still there .   I went to bed, and the next morning I all of a sudden couldn't see the second line anymore .   So then I went to a HIV place here in town and took another Alere determine Ag/Ab combo test... Negative !!! The guy even told me that if I really " seen a faint line " on the oral swab , it would definitely show on the Alere .   All was good u till I started panicking again and went and bought the 7th oral swab test.  Guess what ... Negative.  Do I need any other confirmatory tests just in case I did see two lines on that one oral swab. ?   I can't get it out of my head.   Thanks for listening to my problem and any help would be appreciated
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13276481 tn?1451146767
You had that false reading because you failed to follow instructions.
The instructions tell you to discard them after the appointed reading time for a reason.

As sleeplessnights34 said, if we had 1 fraction of a doubt we would recommend a test.

"I took the Alere determine Ag/ab combo plus another oraquick oral swab , plus another oraquick oral swab today and all 3 were negative"

You really think these products are so bad that beyond the window period they failed to detect antibodies? Over and over again?
They'd be sued and out of business.
We've been patient but I have no more to say.
Respectfully you may need counseling.
YOU DO NOT HAVE HIV.


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If you go through the forum, you will see that we sometimes advise people to test even for 1-second exposures. If anyone here felt you had the slightest risk they would've pointed it out to you without a doubt. Nobody ((especially here)) wants infected people going around and possibly infecting others without knowing. We would say you are negative even if you had 3 other positives. A single negative antibody test at 12 weeks and over would rule out the possibility of infection.
By testing over and over again you are asking for trouble, not only is it fueling your anxiety, but you may be putting yourself at a risk of another false positive. If you have such a hard time dealing with one false positive, what will you do with a second ????
Relax, be happy, keep your mind occupied ALL THE TIME. If you don't stay occupied, the demons start to come.
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Damn I'm sorry.  I'm having a hard time understanding because I don't want to chance anything with my girlfriend.  Even if my oraquick would have been positive ( which I know it was negative because it only had one line after 20 minutes ) I took the Alere determine Ag/ab combo plus another oraquick oral swab , plus another oraquick oral swab today and all 3 were negative after I thought I seen another line hours after the oraquick I'm worried about was for sure negative.... I'm just worried if there is another test like the NAT or something I need to take just in case that one oraquick was positive.  Me and my girlfriend are wanting to start having kids and I'm scared to death.  Please put this fear away for me.  Did I take enough confirmatory tests ?
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Thank y'all so much
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13276481 tn?1451146767
Yes sir, that is 100% correct.
Many experts believe the 4th generation test you took at 28 days was all you needed. Some recommend a final antibody test as 3 months.
You had another 4th generation test at 13 weeks. These are VERY accurate.
They look for antibodies and p24 antigen. The antigen peaks at 28 days when you had your first test. No need to worry about it anymore.
You completely satisfied testing requirements.

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So that last Alere determine combo ab/Ag test past 13 weeks is the only confirmation test I need since it is negative?  No western blot or anything else ? I'm negative and ready to move on ?  Regardless of the " imaginary lines I might I have seen" ? Thanks    This is the last question.   Thank y'all
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13276481 tn?1451146767
Let this go. The test that freaked you out was negative at the proper time to checked.
You are negative. Please no more what ifs.
Your test history proves this "conclusively" .
Congratulations.
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For WHATEVER reason. Whether you left it for more than 40 minutes or you think you saw another line, it doesn't matter. You are conclusively negative and DON'T NEED FURTHER TESTING.
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Thank y'all.  I assume you are talking about testing past the manufacturers time you are referring to not reading the result past 40 minutes on the oral swab ?   And I should have known it was just my mind because it was gone the next morning .. Plus I didn't even think I seen that line until like 18 hrs after test .   I also was wondering one more thing .  Let's say it would have been a real positive on that one oral swab ,is the Alere Determine Ag/ab combo good enough test to rule it out or would I have to go pay a lot of money for western blot or PCR test.  Remember I had an Alere determine Ag/ab combo and another oraquick oral swab after I thought I seen two lines on that one test.    Thanks again for helping
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Even if for some reason there was a positive result somewhere, it would have been false. A single negative after 12 weeks is enough to conclusively rule out infection. You have around 20. So, you should stop worrying, and more importantly, you should stop testing.
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You are conclusively negative.
You tested negative past the window test with a 4th generation test and perhaps with some oral test as well.
You never test past the manufacturers established time because after a certain point they become unstable and are not reliable. You caused yourself unnecessary stress. Ignore the false reading you received on the test you didn't throw away at 20 minutes. You are negative.
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