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Russert's untimely death raises questions about how we're treating heart disease
Dear Friend,
You won't hear me say this often about anyone in mainstream media, but T. Russert, newsman and anchor of Meet the Press, was someone I respected. I took great joy in watching politicians squirm under his tough questioning. So, like most Americans, I was sad to hear the tragic news of his sudden death. After all, Russert was just 58 years old — relatively young by today's standards.
According to his doctors, he had diabetes, heart disease, and he was overweight. Yet without fail, every time I hear a news story or read an article on his death, the commentators express their surprise that something like this could happen to someone who was on blood pressure pills and cholesterol drugs, who exercised routinely (in fact, he worked out on the treadmill the morning he died), and who was on a diet. He'd even recently passed a stress test.
I wish I could say I was shocked by this news. Unfortunately, stories like this one only highlight what I've been telling you all along: Blood pressure doesn't cause heart disease, high cholesterol drugs aren't cure-alls, and exercise can do more harm than good. In short, none of the steps Russert's doctors told him to take to address his health concerns were doing a darn bit of good.
Instead, if someone had told him to focus on keeping his homocysteine levels low and his magnesium levels high, we might not be having this conversation in the first place. Homocysteine makes cholesterol stick to your artery walls and can also contribute the hardening of your arteries. It's simple to control your cholesterol levels by loading up on B vitamins, like B6, B12 and folate.
Magnesium also has vital heart-healthy benefits.
"Statins don't protect against heart attacks. And [Russert] didn't know that the lack of one nutrient could have cost him his life," said acclaimed neurosurgeon Dr. R. B. "The number-one cause of sudden cardiac death is magnesium deficiency. Cardiac patients and those with diabetes have the lowest magnesium levels of all."
I've written to you before about the many benefits of magnesium. This mineral prevents blood clots, dilates blood vessels, and can also stop the development of dangerous heart irregularities. It's why I've been such a long-time advocate of increasing magnesium intake for its heart-health benefits – not to mention what it does for your bones and bodily tissues. I've even used magnesium in emergency medicine to help limit brain damage in stroke victims. And yet more than half of Americans have a magnesium deficiency.
"People who are deficient in magnesium are most likely to have sudden cardiac arrest, and when they do arrest, they are harder to resuscitate,"DR. B. says. "Many simply can't be resuscitated."
Dr. S. B. surgeon in chief of New York's M. Medical Center, did a good job of summing up just why the death of the beloved newsman has so shaken both Americans in general and doctors in particular: "It makes us all feel mortal, and it also highlights the natural history of this silent killer and our limited ability to catch this killer before it strikes."
Fighting on in the battle against heart disease,
W. C. D. M.D.
Dear Friend,
You won't hear me say this often about anyone in mainstream media, but T. Russert, newsman and anchor of Meet the Press, was someone I respected. I took great joy in watching politicians squirm under his tough questioning. So, like most Americans, I was sad to hear the tragic news of his sudden death. After all, Russert was just 58 years old — relatively young by today's standards.
According to his doctors, he had diabetes, heart disease, and he was overweight. Yet without fail, every time I hear a news story or read an article on his death, the commentators express their surprise that something like this could happen to someone who was on blood pressure pills and cholesterol drugs, who exercised routinely (in fact, he worked out on the treadmill the morning he died), and who was on a diet. He'd even recently passed a stress test.
I wish I could say I was shocked by this news. Unfortunately, stories like this one only highlight what I've been telling you all along: Blood pressure doesn't cause heart disease, high cholesterol drugs aren't cure-alls, and exercise can do more harm than good. In short, none of the steps Russert's doctors told him to take to address his health concerns were doing a darn bit of good.
Instead, if someone had told him to focus on keeping his homocysteine levels low and his magnesium levels high, we might not be having this conversation in the first place. Homocysteine makes cholesterol stick to your artery walls and can also contribute the hardening of your arteries. It's simple to control your cholesterol levels by loading up on B vitamins, like B6, B12 and folate.
Magnesium also has vital heart-healthy benefits.
"Statins don't protect against heart attacks. And [Russert] didn't know that the lack of one nutrient could have cost him his life," said acclaimed neurosurgeon Dr. R. B. "The number-one cause of sudden cardiac death is magnesium deficiency. Cardiac patients and those with diabetes have the lowest magnesium levels of all."
I've written to you before about the many benefits of magnesium. This mineral prevents blood clots, dilates blood vessels, and can also stop the development of dangerous heart irregularities. It's why I've been such a long-time advocate of increasing magnesium intake for its heart-health benefits – not to mention what it does for your bones and bodily tissues. I've even used magnesium in emergency medicine to help limit brain damage in stroke victims. And yet more than half of Americans have a magnesium deficiency.
"People who are deficient in magnesium are most likely to have sudden cardiac arrest, and when they do arrest, they are harder to resuscitate,"DR. B. says. "Many simply can't be resuscitated."
Dr. S. B. surgeon in chief of New York's M. Medical Center, did a good job of summing up just why the death of the beloved newsman has so shaken both Americans in general and doctors in particular: "It makes us all feel mortal, and it also highlights the natural history of this silent killer and our limited ability to catch this killer before it strikes."
Fighting on in the battle against heart disease,
W. C. D. M.D.
Dixter, once again I would suggest your opinions might be taken more seriously if you would include documentation for quoted sources.
You wrote:
"Statins don't protect against heart attacks. And [Russert] didn't know that the lack of one nutrient could have cost him his life," said acclaimed neurosurgeon Dr. R. B.
This isn't documentation.
You wrote:
"Statins don't protect against heart attacks. And [Russert] didn't know that the lack of one nutrient could have cost him his life," said acclaimed neurosurgeon Dr. R. B.
This isn't documentation.
This is DR. R.B. opinion! You have to do your research homework!
I'm not permitted to enter names of DR.
I'm not permitted to enter names of DR.
If the doctor has conducted a study and the results have been published, you are welcome to provide the citation in its entirety.
Thanks!
Thanks!
This does not seem like an appropriate time to exploit Tim Russert's death by a writing SUGGESTING that following an alternative treatment plan being sold by a doctor known only by his initials MIGHT HAVE saved his life.
Implications and scare tactics do not replace controlled research. If there is such in this matter, it would be good to see it.
Implications and scare tactics do not replace controlled research. If there is such in this matter, it would be good to see it.
QUOTE OP: "Blood pressure doesn't cause heart disease, high cholesterol drugs aren't cure-alls, and exercise can do more harm than good. In short, none of the steps Russert's doctors told him to take to address his health concerns were doing a darn bit of good."
Does the writer suggest don't lower bp, don't take choles lowering drugs, and don't exercise? Lower risk factors are meaningless?
Does the writer suggest don't lower bp, don't take choles lowering drugs, and don't exercise? Lower risk factors are meaningless?
Dixter,
I sent you a PM. If you can validate the research with a reference or citation, we can create a Health Page dedicated to alternative therapies. This could help disseminate valid information to members who may wish to consider alternatives to modern medicine. MedHelp is willing to allow a Health Page for this type of information IF the references are provided, and the material is not copyright protected.
Connie
I sent you a PM. If you can validate the research with a reference or citation, we can create a Health Page dedicated to alternative therapies. This could help disseminate valid information to members who may wish to consider alternatives to modern medicine. MedHelp is willing to allow a Health Page for this type of information IF the references are provided, and the material is not copyright protected.
Connie
magnesium works wonders ! I use it all the time - the b vitaimins are also good to take
cant hurt ?
I tend to agree that most medications for h.b.p , do more harm than good in some cases ! guess it just depends on the person who takes it ? if they can tollerate it or not. excersize is ok with me.. but I honestly cant do what I did before - being on the b.p meds .. that is a fact of life.
I like alot of other people use omega 3 oils for cholesteral lowering , it works but takes
alot to get it down - as I dont like the side effects from cholesteral lowering drugs .
I have alot more to say about Doctors - and hmo and ppo plans and insurance companys that control everything .. but wont bother to post my feelings... as who cares but me !
well thats it .. my point of view here..
Boogernose
cant hurt ?
I tend to agree that most medications for h.b.p , do more harm than good in some cases ! guess it just depends on the person who takes it ? if they can tollerate it or not. excersize is ok with me.. but I honestly cant do what I did before - being on the b.p meds .. that is a fact of life.
I like alot of other people use omega 3 oils for cholesteral lowering , it works but takes
alot to get it down - as I dont like the side effects from cholesteral lowering drugs .
I have alot more to say about Doctors - and hmo and ppo plans and insurance companys that control everything .. but wont bother to post my feelings... as who cares but me !
well thats it .. my point of view here..
Boogernose
We really don't know how effectively resuscitation was attempted at the time of Tim Russert's heart attack. "Everything possible was done" isn't very revealing; maybe everything possible by people who didn't know much about it.
On the other hand, if Mr. Russert wasn't taking the drugs he was taking and wasn't exercising and wasn't on a diet, he may have died years ago. Who knows?
Many of the people with heart disease may know that the Red Cross has adopted a new resuscitation protocol, omitting mouth-to-mouth breathing and introducing an uninterrupted sequence of compressions. It's actually LESS complicated.
It is also being taught to graduating medical students in their emergency intervention class/rotation; my daughter in Wisconsin was taught it this spring. (Not that it's any credit to me, but it was developed by my cardiologist, who is head of the Sarver Heart Center at UMC in Tucson and a really lovely man in the bargain.) The outcome is phenomenally better--under the old method, only 5% of people resuscitated made a complete recovery; this method has not been widespread long enough for definite figures, but it is looking to be astronomically higher than that.
Nobody can save everyone--the heart has to be capable of resuming its rhythm--but it might rescue people in Tim Russert's situation once enough people know it.
It is also being taught to graduating medical students in their emergency intervention class/rotation; my daughter in Wisconsin was taught it this spring. (Not that it's any credit to me, but it was developed by my cardiologist, who is head of the Sarver Heart Center at UMC in Tucson and a really lovely man in the bargain.) The outcome is phenomenally better--under the old method, only 5% of people resuscitated made a complete recovery; this method has not been widespread long enough for definite figures, but it is looking to be astronomically higher than that.
Nobody can save everyone--the heart has to be capable of resuming its rhythm--but it might rescue people in Tim Russert's situation once enough people know it.
I enjoyed reading the information posted by dixter. This is not the first time Magnesium has come up with regard to its benefits for heart patients. I am interested in more information about Magnesium and what dosage is right.
Regarding Russert, I am saddened by his death and can't help but wonder at what his treatment was and what it should have been.
Regarding Russert, I am saddened by his death and can't help but wonder at what his treatment was and what it should have been.
My C, Dr. B still suggests exercise and S. I take quite a F Ss and go to the G regularly. You can A come up with Rs that someone D. R factors? Maybe so. Could be A that caused his D. Could be a D of M just as E. Doubt that too much E had a lot to do with I. I agree that it's pretty S to sit back and try to M Es for someone's D. Let the poor guy R in P. Dying was likely not H C.
If your H stops, you D. N knows why for S. S happens. Take your Ds, exercise and E R, and hope for the B.
And thus ends my C for the D.
LOL !!
If your H stops, you D. N knows why for S. S happens. Take your Ds, exercise and E R, and hope for the B.
And thus ends my C for the D.
LOL !!
In my case exercise and high blood pressure haven't a darn thing to do with my heart condition, which my doc says I was most likely born with. By the way I've always been a physically fit and healthy person, not overweight, not a heavy drinker, don't smoke, normal blood pressure. I've done everything right and I'm sitting here with an ICD now and a pretty serious arrhythmia. In defense of Dixter's post, I found interesting and don't get why it's offensive to people; I don't think posting information about possible treatments that could have saved someone's life or might yet save someone else's life is exploiting one's death. I also don't think anyone has suggested not exercising or lowering BP is beneficial, but rather there may be some other things to consider besides what western doctors and the pharmaceuticals industry has to offer. I agree whole-heartedly to follow your doctor's orders, but there is nothing wrong with patients doing a little research on their own to find healthy alternatives. I doubt Tim Russert would be offended that people might somehow benefit by lessons we may learn from his death, the cause of it and what may have been done to prevent it. Us talking about it will not stop him from resting in peace. Progress doesn't occur by people sitting around naysaying new and somewhat controversial information. By all means, jump on your treadmills people and take your beta blockers, I certainly do, but keep an open (yet carefully scrutinizing) mind!
IMHO anedontal evidence is interesting but not worthy of serious consideration. Its manure and no pony!.
It's not offensive to me at all (the post). I just think it's funny as hell that it's in such a code (such a C). Seems like a spy on spy situation brewing.
There are many theories regarding "risk factors" and what to do about them if anything. My personal one is that risk factors have very little or nothing at all to do with heart disease. But, they are convenient. Personally, I have known quite a few people with heart disease. Some ate a bad diet, some didn't. Some smoked, some didn't. Some had high blood pressure, some didn't. Some got a LOT of exercise, some got practically none. Some were fat, some were thin. The only real common denominator is that they ALL had heart disease. My personal risk factor situation is that I had none when I had my heart attack. About the best the docs can do with that one is "well, if you weren't in such good shape, you'd likely be dead now". Or, "not necessarily something recent--could have been eating a bad diet 30 or 40 years ago". Oh, OK. So that would translate to-- anything beneficial I do now, won't go into effect until I'm over 100?? In that case, who cares? Anyway, the risk factor thing is easy and convenient, and just what a patient needs to hear upon his release from the shop following his heart attack. IT"S ALL YOUR FAULT !!
Heart disease is something that some people get, and some people don't get.
Of course, all of this is anecdotal evidence. I hope you find it interesting. But, don't take it too seriously.....
Oh. One more of Dr. B. M.D. 's favorites--"heredity has to start somewhere".
Now, if I could just figure out how to make this relative to Tim Russert's death. Got it ! Has to be the "doctors were leading him astray" thing.
There are many theories regarding "risk factors" and what to do about them if anything. My personal one is that risk factors have very little or nothing at all to do with heart disease. But, they are convenient. Personally, I have known quite a few people with heart disease. Some ate a bad diet, some didn't. Some smoked, some didn't. Some had high blood pressure, some didn't. Some got a LOT of exercise, some got practically none. Some were fat, some were thin. The only real common denominator is that they ALL had heart disease. My personal risk factor situation is that I had none when I had my heart attack. About the best the docs can do with that one is "well, if you weren't in such good shape, you'd likely be dead now". Or, "not necessarily something recent--could have been eating a bad diet 30 or 40 years ago". Oh, OK. So that would translate to-- anything beneficial I do now, won't go into effect until I'm over 100?? In that case, who cares? Anyway, the risk factor thing is easy and convenient, and just what a patient needs to hear upon his release from the shop following his heart attack. IT"S ALL YOUR FAULT !!
Heart disease is something that some people get, and some people don't get.
Of course, all of this is anecdotal evidence. I hope you find it interesting. But, don't take it too seriously.....
Oh. One more of Dr. B. M.D. 's favorites--"heredity has to start somewhere".
Now, if I could just figure out how to make this relative to Tim Russert's death. Got it ! Has to be the "doctors were leading him astray" thing.
All I can tell you is I don't have to take coumadin, Dilantin, aspirin. I don't need BP medicine and except for having my other knee
replaced this Sept. my Dr. said keep taking my supplements and I see him every month.
For those who don't like what I post, then why do you read them?
replaced this Sept. my Dr. said keep taking my supplements and I see him every month.
For those who don't like what I post, then why do you read them?
Dixter, Just to clarify, do you have heart disease? I don't take coumadin or cholesterol medications, but I'm taking an aspirin (clot prevention) and a very small dose of lisinopril for optimal BP.
Jim62, Your situation is an important one for all of us to take not of. It just goes to show that some diseases/conditions just occur, and regardless of what we do, or don't do, we do our best to LIVE with them. Especially in those cases, I am grateful to modern medicine.
I have also known people who could eat whatever they wanted, didn't exercise, never had a cholesterol test and lived to be in their 90's! Others succumbed to heart disease or cancer, never had a cigarette,led healthy lifestyles, etc. I think the best thing for us to do is follow the preventive suggestions, but to be ready for whatever life throws our way. I do believe in many, many cases heart disease can be avoided, or stalled, by following a relatively healthy style. It certainly can't hurt.
FWIW, I enjoyed deciphering your cryptic message : ) I would also like to know who the mystery doctor is....I don't understand why he/she wouldn't want to take credit for their research. A sound reference would give us the opportunity to conduct our own research and develop our own opinions based on studies in their entirety, as opposed to paraphrases. Dixter, have you given thought to creating a "Health Page"?
Going for a walk : )
Jim62, Your situation is an important one for all of us to take not of. It just goes to show that some diseases/conditions just occur, and regardless of what we do, or don't do, we do our best to LIVE with them. Especially in those cases, I am grateful to modern medicine.
I have also known people who could eat whatever they wanted, didn't exercise, never had a cholesterol test and lived to be in their 90's! Others succumbed to heart disease or cancer, never had a cigarette,led healthy lifestyles, etc. I think the best thing for us to do is follow the preventive suggestions, but to be ready for whatever life throws our way. I do believe in many, many cases heart disease can be avoided, or stalled, by following a relatively healthy style. It certainly can't hurt.
FWIW, I enjoyed deciphering your cryptic message : ) I would also like to know who the mystery doctor is....I don't understand why he/she wouldn't want to take credit for their research. A sound reference would give us the opportunity to conduct our own research and develop our own opinions based on studies in their entirety, as opposed to paraphrases. Dixter, have you given thought to creating a "Health Page"?
Going for a walk : )
Hello Mom,
A little over a year ago I had a Brain tumor removed( benign) it was large and calcified. The DR. was surprised that I never had seizures
I was on Dilantin and steroids. when I came home from the hospital I had pain on the left side of my chest and could not touch it.
I went to my family Dr. and he thought it was a muscle so I went home the following day i called the Neurosurgeon he told my wife to take
me to the hospital. I had 3 blood clots in my left lung and 1 in my right! The hospital called my Neurosurgeon he told them to start me on
Heparin. The Neurosurgeon at this hospital agreed but the other Dr. said no that it was to soon after the surgery and i could have a brain bleed.
They said they would put a filter in and start me on Lovenox. After the filter was installed I through another clot. tests was performed and I
have to factors for having clots. Prothrombin and Lupus anticoagulant the DR. said it could be hereditary my father died at age 89 and my mother
died at age 32 so i'm guessing it was my mother. I told the DR. that I had surgery before and never had a problem he said it just didn't show then.
So they want me on daily aspirin. long term aspirin use can cause Pancreatic cancer instead I take 2 1/2 tablespoons per day of fish oil
and other supplements to help prevent clots. As for the Dr. that said it was a muscle I don't see him!!
Enjoy your walk!
A little over a year ago I had a Brain tumor removed( benign) it was large and calcified. The DR. was surprised that I never had seizures
I was on Dilantin and steroids. when I came home from the hospital I had pain on the left side of my chest and could not touch it.
I went to my family Dr. and he thought it was a muscle so I went home the following day i called the Neurosurgeon he told my wife to take
me to the hospital. I had 3 blood clots in my left lung and 1 in my right! The hospital called my Neurosurgeon he told them to start me on
Heparin. The Neurosurgeon at this hospital agreed but the other Dr. said no that it was to soon after the surgery and i could have a brain bleed.
They said they would put a filter in and start me on Lovenox. After the filter was installed I through another clot. tests was performed and I
have to factors for having clots. Prothrombin and Lupus anticoagulant the DR. said it could be hereditary my father died at age 89 and my mother
died at age 32 so i'm guessing it was my mother. I told the DR. that I had surgery before and never had a problem he said it just didn't show then.
So they want me on daily aspirin. long term aspirin use can cause Pancreatic cancer instead I take 2 1/2 tablespoons per day of fish oil
and other supplements to help prevent clots. As for the Dr. that said it was a muscle I don't see him!!
Enjoy your walk!
A few other mentions, the research that I found stated that when aspirin was researched for blood thinning they used buffered aspirin! Buffered aspirin contains Magnesium
and as you know Magnesium thins the blood. I will check the Homeopathic board. The only problem with supplements Insurance wont pay.
You know that most drugs are derived from plants. the test I have is platelet aggregation to see if the supplements are doing their job.
and as you know Magnesium thins the blood. I will check the Homeopathic board. The only problem with supplements Insurance wont pay.
You know that most drugs are derived from plants. the test I have is platelet aggregation to see if the supplements are doing their job.
It seems that there are heated feelings regarding this particular subject. There always are heated feelings when we are forced to deal with our own mortality and the untimely death of Mr. Russert has reminded us all that, regardless of our actions here on Earth, when it is time to go, it is time to go.
The thing is this, we can all take steps to try to elongate our lives. High blood pressure and increased Cholesterol levels are indeed risk factors that can be treated homeopathically or medicinally, and doctors are not wrong to offer treatment for those conditions. High blood pressure is often a risk factor, not because you have high blood pressure, but because it indicates that there may be a blockage somewhere that is causing the increased pressure (like a hose with your thumb over the opening). So, when faced with high blood pressure, the first course of action is to lower the BP because putting pressure on your areteries and veins has its own problems. After that, if other signs are present, a doctor should run a stress echo and do a doppler of the heart to determine if there are any dangerous blockages causing the symptoms. If none are found then the only thing doctors can do is treat the symptoms and watch for progression.
Unlike television, medicine does not cure all ills, and it is not infallable. There are many mixed messages given by the body and many MANY variables that can affect how symptoms present themselves and how best to treat them. Doctors do what they can and patients need to listen to their doctors and decide what treatment sounds most amenable to THEM.
Dixter's message is all 100% true. It doesn't matter how well we take care of ourselves, or how many drugs we take. We can be absolutely healthy one minute and dead the next. Unfortunately, that's the gamble of life. No one gets off this Earth alive. We can, however, take steps to improve our quality of life and hopefully the length of it. This is witnessed by the increase in average lifespan from (1900) 45 years to (2008) 74 years.
All of your other messages are true as well. There are medications, treatments, reasons, thoughts, and questions that make one take pause and question which is the right course of action. It is an individual decision made by each of us based on whatever knowledge we can gain from the experience of others.
Let's not be argumentative, but productive by "hearing" each others experiences and opinions and using them to help each of us make the best choice for us (with the advice of a trusted doctor).
Take care everyone. Be well.
The thing is this, we can all take steps to try to elongate our lives. High blood pressure and increased Cholesterol levels are indeed risk factors that can be treated homeopathically or medicinally, and doctors are not wrong to offer treatment for those conditions. High blood pressure is often a risk factor, not because you have high blood pressure, but because it indicates that there may be a blockage somewhere that is causing the increased pressure (like a hose with your thumb over the opening). So, when faced with high blood pressure, the first course of action is to lower the BP because putting pressure on your areteries and veins has its own problems. After that, if other signs are present, a doctor should run a stress echo and do a doppler of the heart to determine if there are any dangerous blockages causing the symptoms. If none are found then the only thing doctors can do is treat the symptoms and watch for progression.
Unlike television, medicine does not cure all ills, and it is not infallable. There are many mixed messages given by the body and many MANY variables that can affect how symptoms present themselves and how best to treat them. Doctors do what they can and patients need to listen to their doctors and decide what treatment sounds most amenable to THEM.
Dixter's message is all 100% true. It doesn't matter how well we take care of ourselves, or how many drugs we take. We can be absolutely healthy one minute and dead the next. Unfortunately, that's the gamble of life. No one gets off this Earth alive. We can, however, take steps to improve our quality of life and hopefully the length of it. This is witnessed by the increase in average lifespan from (1900) 45 years to (2008) 74 years.
All of your other messages are true as well. There are medications, treatments, reasons, thoughts, and questions that make one take pause and question which is the right course of action. It is an individual decision made by each of us based on whatever knowledge we can gain from the experience of others.
Let's not be argumentative, but productive by "hearing" each others experiences and opinions and using them to help each of us make the best choice for us (with the advice of a trusted doctor).
Take care everyone. Be well.
This is a great thread!!
Thanks for the explanation Dixter. That is also an amazing story!! Your (new) doctors are to be commended for providing you with the right therapy for your condition(s).
Dolfnlvr - great post!! About that avg. lifespan of 74........??? YIKES!!
Connie
Thanks for the explanation Dixter. That is also an amazing story!! Your (new) doctors are to be commended for providing you with the right therapy for your condition(s).
Dolfnlvr - great post!! About that avg. lifespan of 74........??? YIKES!!
Connie
That life span is for the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE (including third world countries and poverty stricken zones). And....74 beats 45 any day!!!!
American life being what it is, with all its amenities and treatments, is often closer to 82.
Breathe easy!!! We've got time....
American life being what it is, with all its amenities and treatments, is often closer to 82.
Breathe easy!!! We've got time....
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