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Hello there I hope people can give me some information, advice or help. I will try to keep it short.
My mother has had a lot of stress the last years because of various reasons; financial, lawsuit and personal losses of family. And it all got to the point where she had a heart attack.
She has had various physical vague pains in the past. Lately she complained of severe pain in the breast area and drove to the hospital. There they gave a wrong diagnose. The doc said throat infection or something like that and she went back to home. Then she kept on working 6 days a week until she fainted after about two weeks after the heart attack, and then went to see the hospital again.
Then it appeared they made a mistake and now she's staying in the hospital. Now i know there are thickened bloodpieces (don't know the exact english words for it but to make it more clear her heart had to work twice as hard to pump all the blood) in her heart and it's now half dead tissue. 50% of the heart is working.
They said they made a misjudgment and now they use blood thinners. She's been there for half a week now and she still has pain at her shoulder above her heart.
I would like to know if there are any possibilities that she will be healthy again. She doesn't deserve this can u give me some hope?
My mother has had a lot of stress the last years because of various reasons; financial, lawsuit and personal losses of family. And it all got to the point where she had a heart attack.
She has had various physical vague pains in the past. Lately she complained of severe pain in the breast area and drove to the hospital. There they gave a wrong diagnose. The doc said throat infection or something like that and she went back to home. Then she kept on working 6 days a week until she fainted after about two weeks after the heart attack, and then went to see the hospital again.
Then it appeared they made a mistake and now she's staying in the hospital. Now i know there are thickened bloodpieces (don't know the exact english words for it but to make it more clear her heart had to work twice as hard to pump all the blood) in her heart and it's now half dead tissue. 50% of the heart is working.
They said they made a misjudgment and now they use blood thinners. She's been there for half a week now and she still has pain at her shoulder above her heart.
I would like to know if there are any possibilities that she will be healthy again. She doesn't deserve this can u give me some hope?
QUOTE: " His heart was 30% alive and he was still getting around with just the aid of a stick, but I think that was due to his old age. He travelled to germany for trials and had stem cells inserted into the heart muscle wall. The tests showed no difference in his heart, but he said he felt much better than before. Anyway, my point is, he was surviving very well on 30% of his heart".
I posed the question to kay and now to you as it appears you are both coming from some common understanding.(live heart, dead heart). Is it a UK understanding or something?.
Is there a formula/calculation to determine the percentage of "dead tissue"? What factors are involved? Is there a formula/calculation to determine 30% of the heart surviving. ...."its the hospitals fault your mother now has 50% of dead heart tissue"....
meaning 50% alive.
Please note there are quotation marks around someone elses thoughts. No one else but the original writer of the statements takes credit.
I posed the question to kay and now to you as it appears you are both coming from some common understanding.(live heart, dead heart). Is it a UK understanding or something?.
Is there a formula/calculation to determine the percentage of "dead tissue"? What factors are involved? Is there a formula/calculation to determine 30% of the heart surviving. ...."its the hospitals fault your mother now has 50% of dead heart tissue"....
meaning 50% alive.
Please note there are quotation marks around someone elses thoughts. No one else but the original writer of the statements takes credit.
QUOTE: ....its the hospitals fault your mother now has 50% of dead heart tissue....
Is there a formula/calculation to determine the percentage of "dead tissue"? What factors are involved?
Is there a formula/calculation to determine the percentage of "dead tissue"? What factors are involved?
Ejection fraction (fraction of blood pumped into circulation with heartbeat). As Flycaster states it is not a 50% damaged heart. If one reflects on the mathematical calculation of the EF it is the amount of blood pumped with each heartbeat, formula is volume at end of diastole (filling phase) subtracted from peak systole...then divided by systole for a percentage. Systole evaluation.
For comparison, diastole failure results when the filling phase is reduced due to a crowding out of filling capacity oftened due to enlarged walls. The EF can be pumping 50% or more blood from the reduced capacity, but the cardiac output is reduced and if not successfully treated it will result in a lower systole EF and heart failure.
Your mother has a very good chance for recovery if and when there is relief from the stress and medication to help maintain a normal workload for the heart, however, 50% EF is not a serious condition. The 50% does not mean there is a loss of 50% of viable heart tissue, however, many people inaccurately conclude it represents dead tissue or something. This represents the left side and there is the rightside as well that may be healthy.
There is no measure for degree of dead heart tissue to viable heart tissue; only measurement of the percent of pumping functionality. There is another calculation called fractional shortening and that involves measurement based on diminsions rather than volume.
For comparison, diastole failure results when the filling phase is reduced due to a crowding out of filling capacity oftened due to enlarged walls. The EF can be pumping 50% or more blood from the reduced capacity, but the cardiac output is reduced and if not successfully treated it will result in a lower systole EF and heart failure.
Your mother has a very good chance for recovery if and when there is relief from the stress and medication to help maintain a normal workload for the heart, however, 50% EF is not a serious condition. The 50% does not mean there is a loss of 50% of viable heart tissue, however, many people inaccurately conclude it represents dead tissue or something. This represents the left side and there is the rightside as well that may be healthy.
There is no measure for degree of dead heart tissue to viable heart tissue; only measurement of the percent of pumping functionality. There is another calculation called fractional shortening and that involves measurement based on diminsions rather than volume.
I don't know what the minimum percentage is, but I assume it depends on which areas of the heart tissue is now dead. I did watch an interesting documentry last year regarding stem cell research and trials which involved an ex soldier in the UK (elderly) seeking treatment in the trials. His heart was 30% alive and he was still getting around with just the aid of a stick, but I think that was due to his old age. He travelled to germany for trials and had stem cells inserted into the heart muscle wall. The tests showed no difference in his heart, but he said he felt much better than before. Anyway, my point is, he was surviving very well on 30% of his heart.
Misdiagnosis still happens, unfortunately. Back in 2006 I was misdiagnosed with a swollen stomach and given pills for a year but in 2007 the real reasons for pains showed themsevles with heart attacks. I would find out which Doctor misdiagnosed her because not only has he affected your mothers life, it makes you wonder how many other misdiags hes made on other people. In the hospital emergency in the UK, things have recently been changed. Up until recently, it was general Doctors which looked at each patient and made the diagnosis. Now if ANY chest pain is present, a Cardiologist HAS TO be called to evaluate the patient. Now there is no single front line to get across for such cases thank goodness.
Misdiagnosis still happens, unfortunately. Back in 2006 I was misdiagnosed with a swollen stomach and given pills for a year but in 2007 the real reasons for pains showed themsevles with heart attacks. I would find out which Doctor misdiagnosed her because not only has he affected your mothers life, it makes you wonder how many other misdiags hes made on other people. In the hospital emergency in the UK, things have recently been changed. Up until recently, it was general Doctors which looked at each patient and made the diagnosis. Now if ANY chest pain is present, a Cardiologist HAS TO be called to evaluate the patient. Now there is no single front line to get across for such cases thank goodness.
id be going to someone higher up and making a cmplaint about this misdiagnosis, its the hospitals fault your mother now has 50% of dead heart tissue, the first time you took her hospital what happened and how was she examined? she should of had blood test this will show enzymes in the blood if a heart attack has happened and an ecg will measure electricity in the heart, when u say thickened blood peices wound do you mean blood clots? the blood thinners get rid of the clots, and the tissue would have died because its been starved of oxygen so the heart pumps faster and faster, she sounds lucky to be here to be honest. What are they going to do about her heart? let me know how she gets on plz, people can live normal lives again when the have had heart attacks
I think there is a very good possibility that your mother will be healthy again. The thickened bloodpieces in the English language are called a blood clots or sometimes cholesterol blockages. You don't mention bypass surgery or stents so assume that they are trying to to use drugs. You you have a full list of the drugs she is taking?
It's possible there is a misunderstanding regarding what percentage of the heart is working. The Ejection Fraction is the determination of the efficiency of the left ventricle, and 50% is low normal, 75% would be extremely efficient. I'm betting that is the situation. Did they give a percentage of the blockages in the arteries?
If they can take care of the blood clots (blockages) and your mother can try to ease her stress levels, eat a heart healthy diet and exercise, there is every reason to expect her to fully recover. Her age would be a factor, how old is she?
Stay in touch, and best wishes.
It's possible there is a misunderstanding regarding what percentage of the heart is working. The Ejection Fraction is the determination of the efficiency of the left ventricle, and 50% is low normal, 75% would be extremely efficient. I'm betting that is the situation. Did they give a percentage of the blockages in the arteries?
If they can take care of the blood clots (blockages) and your mother can try to ease her stress levels, eat a heart healthy diet and exercise, there is every reason to expect her to fully recover. Her age would be a factor, how old is she?
Stay in touch, and best wishes.
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