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61536 tn?1340698163

More palpitations w/full stomach?

Just curious if anyone else notices an increase in palpitations when they are very full after eating.  I usually eat small frequent meals, but I do notice at the times I eat to being very full, it seems to trigger palps.  I get PACs.  Anyone else?

Also, leaning forward and being angry ;)
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I had an ablation about five years ago for atrial fibulation. The surgery caused paracardiatis and pluraleffusion, may not be spelled correctly, bottomline- gave me some serious complications, however, in the big picture it cured the Afib. So, in the BIG picture I am GLAD I had the ablation. Now I get horrible PAC's daily. Like all of you, the PAC's get waaay worse after eating for sure! I guess it is better than Afib. Some days are better than others. Heart issues opens up Pandora's Box for Anxiety for sure! I still work out, but some days are a struggle in overcoming anxiety. It seriously  stinks!
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yes i too am afraid to eat,mine started about 3 weeks ago,on a full stomach,lots of palpitations,,
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Hi Anacyde,

I was diagnosed with PSVT in 1992 and I have had symptoms on and off over the years. One thing I did notice was that I was any medication that is in the steroid family such as Predisone or Fluisolide will certainly make my heart beat irregularly which is also a side effect of steroids so check your medications carefully. Oddly enough my palpitations seemed worse after every meal and I incorrectly linked eating with more palpitations....it was the steroids.  I stopped taking them and now feel much better.
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Dear Arthur,

I have been trying to find the cause of my heart palps for nearly four years.
Mine too are benign. I have gotten four runs of SVT inthe last three years, they last for approx min and then go away spontaneously.

Recently I have another kind of heart palp that really scares me. It feels like the heart is just completely out of rhythm but showed up on the loop monitor as a possible atrial flutter. The cardiologist said that one could easily miss it if not properly trained to read EKG's.

This i've had only once but brought me to the ED. Went away on its own as well. I want to try to describ the feeling but it's hard. Im going to say it kinda feels like there is a terrible mal function with the heart and it is going to stop soon. Has anyone felt this before?

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I can't tell you how relieved I was to read this posting.  I thought I was going insane tying my PVC's to having a meal.  I do find that if have a full meal that my PVC's get set off, it doesn't just have to be all food, it can be filling up on water with a small snack.  Anything that makes my stomach full starts me feeling "off" with PVC's quickly starting or a more rapid heart beat.  Wine also seems to cause me issues as well as my monthly cycle.  I am 44 years old and have had a EKG, ultrasound and worn a holter monitor which all show PVC's benign in nature.  Thanks to all for sharing your stories, I think it will help relieve the anxiety attacks that I get when I start to feel the PVC's start.
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I had them really bad last night. Had a big curry as a treat after two weeks of dieting and felt so stuffed I couldnt breath, that then kicked off my anxiety and intrun my ectopic beats, I only had two though. I was panicking so bad ! But after reading this I'm not alone and it must be normal. Even Cardiologist said anxiety is my main problem

I have something really interesting according to my Cardiologist. Back in Oct 2006 I was complaining of ectopic beats, had an ECG which was fine and doc said it was normal and was symptoms of me getting anxious/worked up. I've suffered depression and anxiety and worry about anything. Got them really badly again in Jan/Feb 2007 so went back. Did another ECG and it showed a slight abnormality. Went for test at hospital, ECG + echo and they found Left Bundle Branch Block. I then worried like mad so cardiologist did more tests. I did a stress test and walked uphill for 16 mins perfectly and he said that was "fantastic" and in the top 2% in the country. I then had a 24 hour tape. This was then interesting ! Apparently the tape showed up incomplete LBBB and during sleep I had "normal" complexes and everything returned to normal. He said not to worry as he believes I don’t have ischaemic heart disease and that I'm healthy and that this is nothing to worry about and that this is just slight variation from the norm. My worry is that could anxiety and stress/depression have brought this on by the last 6-7 years of depression ? Cardio says lots of people have RBBB/LBBB and don’t even know they have it and those who do have it lead perfectly "normal" lives. I wonder whether it could have been caused by the above coupled with the fact I was VERY active, fit and sporty and went from that to binging on alcohol, smoking and eating junk food and becoming 3 and a half stone overweight and still am ? I'm male, 27, 6'1 and weigh 17st 4 lbs. I must stress I worry about anything, hence why I look for answers all the time and am posting on here. I believe a lot of it is also passed through genes as Father has slight narrowing in two places of artery (angina) and he is 62 and his mother has a pacemaker and she is 80. My Mother also has a slightly enlarged ventricle. Basically, Cardio said he doesn’t need to see me again and the letter he sent my GP stated in the header the results were primarily Anxiety in bold font and an intermittent LBBB in small font.

Anyone else offer advice ?
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Ectopy (PAC'S, PVC's) are a normal part of the hearts cycle.  Some have alot, some don't.  It's not just a matter of biochemistry (ion's in and out).  The heart is chalk full of cells that are naturally automatic (automaticity). (it's what can save your life if you ever develop heart block)  At any one time, any cell can fire and cause ectopy.  These can become an issue when a person has what are called "accessory pathways" that lead to an arrhythmia (re-entrant tachycardia).  100% of the human race has ectopy, some have it more than others, but most are unaware.  One of the reasons you may feel you are having more ectopy after a large meal is because of the stomach's expansion pressing on the diaphragm, in turn pressing on the heart.  The heart is a funny thing, just brushing the heart tissue with a pacemaker lead causes ectopy.  Simply moving positions or taking a drink of a carbonated beverage can relieve it.  The main thing to know is that it is normal.  If you have alot of ecotpy and feel light headed or "out of it" you should be evaluated by your Cardiologist.  Buy more often than not, in people with normal hearts, ectopy is just a part of life.
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I feel fullnes of the stomach and severe dumping and palpitation tachycardia reach 160 beat\minute  these symptoms happens about 2hrs   lasts for 1 hrs after eating also dyspnea E C G was normal can irritable colon and gaseritis cause theses symptoms?how can i control these smpytom ?
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I do not drink often, however if I have even 1 glass of wine my heart will palpitate terribly when I go to bed, even if that is 5 or 6 hours after I drank that glass of wine. If I get up to walk around it will stop. The minute I lay back down it starts again. It will last for sometimes 3-4 hours. I have been diagnosed with PAC'a. My confusion is why with a glass of wine and then why do the PAC's start like 5 hours after the wine and only when lying down. Does this happen to anyone else?
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Yep me too.  In fact over the last few weeks my pacs' have become so bad afer eating that I have lost 10lb because I am too afraid to eat, and if I do have a bit more that I know that will set them off i then have trigeminy or bigeminy when i go to bed.  **** way to go on a diet I must say - just wondering how long this is going to go on for.
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I don't know what type of skipping you are feeling, but I can say that often these skips are more easily felt when lying down.  It's also possible for more skips to be generated when lying on one side vs the other.  Your best bet is to check with a cardio and find out what kind of arrhythmia you are experiencing.  Skips being generated from the top of your heart are the least worrisome (PACs, or premature atrial contractions).
PVCs (premature ventricular contractions) are also considered benign.  Other more complicated arrhythmias have a variety of prognoses, mostly benign, but some can be a serious issue.

Even the least problematic arrythmias, PACs and PVCs, can be psychologically devastating if you let them scare you.  Check with a cardiologist or electrophysiologist to find out exactly what you have going on.  Knowledge is power, and with knowledge you can overcome your fears.

-Arthur
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Regardless of what causes the palps, I get them more when I'm full too...also when just getting uptight or thinking about them, and it's hard to forget them so it's like a vicious cycle.  Mine haven't stopped in 3 weeks and I get about 3-7 a minute.  I get relief when I go into total relaxation mode or sleep (at least I don't feel them then).  Also distracting myself tends to help some...again, they may go away or I just may not be feeling them...can't tell which.  And yeah, I have become much more prone to major burpies even on an empty stomach.  Have no idea if this is related or not. I'm on Nexium now and have been for nearly a year.
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Arthur you really seem to know a lot about these horrible PVC's and PAC's.  I am scared to go to bed at night now becuase when I lay down my heart seems to start skipping.  You are saying that is normal??
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Stop picking on the vagus nerve.

Foci are responsible for various arrhythmias, including PACs and PVCs, and the movement of the ions they pump out is modulated by the state of your autonomic nervous system.  It's like a valve setting, when you're anxious the valve opens up and the focal signaling gets through to affect the normal ion channels in your heart. The "valve" is controlled autonomically, ie, basically the state of your "nerves"...and that translates to sudden posture changes, a full stomach, and/or being anxious.

That's why the causes for skips seem so mysterious.  They aren't really.

-Arthur


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Yep, the vagus nerve innervates the esophagus and heart.  I notice when I have indigestion I get many more palpitations too.
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Eating is the only clear trigger I have for PVC's.  And I don't have to have eaten alot--a small snack will do it.  And since a person has to eat...2000 pvc's a day on the holter monitor!  Luckily, I don't mind them and actually find them mildly interesting (my anxiety issues are focussed elsewhere!).  I've read somewhere that the heart and stomach share a nerve...eating must agitate that nerve (the vagal?) and stimulate the extra beats...?
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i have gotten a halter test done. They havent called back so i guess nothing i seriously wrong.  However im yet to discuss it with him.  Do you think i need further tests?  When can one be convinced or sure there is nothing wrong with their heart?  I have had a blood test and ekg last year and a holter monitor test now.  I am a 26 yr old male
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My cardiologist told me more testing is warranted if you did NOT have your usual symptoms on the Holter.  The next step would be a 30 day event monitor.  If that would find nothing, then there isn't really much else they do besides tell you to come back if the symptoms change or if new ones develop.  If something was found on the event monitor, either medication would be prescribed to treat it (if needed) or you would be referred to a rhythm specialist (EP).

I doubt anything is seriously wrong with your normal test results...especially if you had the palpitations while on the Holter.
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Well, Anacyde said it best...some describe it as if it feels your heart is doing a flip flop. Some say it feels as though it takes their breath away. With most of us, it sends a jolt of fear through you and then the anxiety kicks in and then more pac's/pvc's to follow.  They say that without shortness of breath, passing out or any pain, that you should ignore it and go on your merry way...ha ha....not very easy as you will read on here....but needless to say, if you are having any symptoms at all and have not been seen by a Dr. I urge you to do so. That way you know if your siutation is benign or not. Good Luck....God Bless and feel free to come back here as often as you need. I sure do!!
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Yep!  What you all are describing, that's it exactly!  Thanksgiving got me.  Grandma gave me her recipes and I made them...and well, I ate! lol

As for what they feel like, here goes:

PACs: My most common rhythm issue.  It feels like two soft thump thumps followed by a short pause and a THUD.  These are irritating mostly, not scary.  Sometimes they will come a few in a row, or every couple of beats.  That's unpleasant.

PVCs: I don't get these often and I'm glad.  It feels like my heart pauses, then I feel like I have to cough, then I get a pounding THUD afterward and my heart races for a second or two after...as if to make up for the pause, lol  Sometimes I get a sharp little jolt with a PVC too, but not usually.  Typically when I get PVCs it is out of nowhere, and always at rest.

PSVT (paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia): Happens only during physical or emotional stress (exercising, arguing) unless I am pregnant then it can happen whenever it wants to.  Feels like a PAC followed by a very rapid but very regular heart rhythm, typically right around 180 bpm.  It terminates on it's own or with a cough within a few seconds.

Hope that helps :)
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hey, could you describe exactly what your eptopic heartbeats feel like.. or what sensations u get?
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Hey anacyde...I too get palp when I am very full..not every time but most of the time..There seems to be days where I am immune to them..and then there are days when I bend over, stand up, reach for something, raise my to wash in the shower, you name it....it triggers them...weirdest thing that there is no way to pinpoint a rhyme or reason. But I wanted to let you know that I too suffer from all of the above! There are times when I am woken out of my sleep from them...and it has happened twice this week, including this morning!
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Hi anacyde, how are you doing? Yes I get an in my pacs after eating alot, uh like I did Thanksgiving hee hee. I really pigged out. Anyway what's more common is an increase in my hr which will last several hours after eating a large meal. Hope you had a nice holiday, em
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